Open 780: Chromavalon - GAME OVER

[Pink Ball]

How do I look bad towards scum!TSE?? Dude if I were his partner I would've hammered him to get towncred, that would've been coordinated. PP you know this

[Pink Ball]

Like, scum!TSE pretty much clears me

[Pink Ball]

I'd actually look inside TSE's wagon, 'cause the scumteam probably wanted to bait TSE's merlin out to PoE their 5 players

[PenguinPower]

How do I look bad towards scum!TSE?? Dude if I were his partner I would've hammered him to get towncred, that would've been coordinated. PP you know this

I didn’t say I agree with it, I said I think I see his reasoning.

[SirCakez]

Calling Hiraki the counterwagon is rich, it was just PB and I

[PenguinPower]

At the end, yes. But, it was the only major counterwagon prior. And, TSE had strong defenders in you and Midari, with Midari contradicting themselves and you not have a good defense.

[SirCakez]

Where did I defend TSE? I just liked other stuff more.
I dislike Midari fyi and will happily vote there tomorrow.

[PenguinPower]

Whatever Scum.

ok hear me out
this actually seems kind of genuine frustration? PP was being kinda rude to TSE and I can see TSE (knowing his personality) ending that argument this way as town.

[PenguinPower]

Don't bully cakez

<3

Because I also think Hiraki is really scummy and there's a wagon there

There no longer is.

Well the alternatives suck
Join me on Hiraki

[TrueSoulEnergy]

When I said “lucky”
I meant you probably would have lynched me regardless of my alignment.
(Well maybe not necessarily this format but from you all as players as a whole)

[Midari Ikishima]

Where did I defend TSE? I just liked other stuff more.
I dislike Midari fyi and will happily vote there tomorrow.

It reminds me of Open 779 with someone not understanding the setup who then came to be town.

[SirCakez]

Whatever Scum.

ok hear me out
this actually seems kind of genuine frustration? PP was being kinda rude to TSE and I can see TSE (knowing his personality) ending that argument this way as town.

I forgot about that post, it was a while ago. Fair enough.
I don't see how saying the TSE wagon sucks construes a defense of him.

[Hiraki]

Got it, so sircakez's reasoning is okaaaaaay and made up bullshit - good to know. Mobile posting otherwise I'd go into it but I really also don't think I need to

[Five Candles]

Whatever Scum.

ok hear me out
this actually seems kind of genuine frustration? PP was being kinda rude to TSE and I can see TSE (knowing his personality) ending that argument this way as town.

Oh, yikes, this is a real bad post, Cakez. How would've you expected scum!TSE to end that conversation at the time? Drawing a whole lot alignment-wise from 2 words there.

I need to consult with my Merlins. ONE, Tango3, Concerned.

[Hiraki]

I don't see how saying the TSE wagon sucks construes a defense of him.

Let's look at the flip side - what sucked about the TSE wagon that didn't suck about the Hiraki wagon?

Currently, the TSE wagon is -

PenguinPower(49), enomis(9), Five Candles(43), Galron(12), ManateeDude(18) and TSE (if this is wrong, it's 12 here and I don't think the change will make a difference)

The Hiraki wagon was -

Hiraki(4) ~ Galron(8), Pink Ball(17), TrueSoulEnergy(18), ManateeDude(10)

So if we dive even deeper, the only two outliers on the TSE wagon are PP, enomis & Five Candles. So what was actually bad about the TSE wagon again? Enomis?

[Hiraki]

Spoiler: SirCakez quoting himself in 285

Tempted to lynch TSE just for that comment from Hiraki

for not rushing the day? okay

I like the anime guys for scum team

because i don't want to end d1 on page 5

okkkkkaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

TSE doesn't even seem to care about the votes on him.

still true FYI

Why are you assuming that's what I want to lynch you for? This seems like scum mad for caught for the wrong reasons.

where was all the energy we had in signups smh why dont we discuss setup mechanics to move out of this limbo.

LAMIST

I like the anime guys for scum team

Reaching.

on page 5?

he's way too defensive about pushes on him

and I also SR you for a lack of scumhunting other than TSE, who is the leading wagon

I've responded to all of these points and even PP called you out on the defensiveness one. Giving vague reasons that no one can follow is not helping you figure out what my alignment is (something that I have been suspecting that you are not trying to do with your posts) and is certainly not convincing anyone else to join. Even though I agree with Manatee, as I am about to do so again, I at least understand where he's coming from.

The only reason I'm not hammering right now is that I want more reads FYI. TSE doesn't even seem to care about the votes on him.

does this not look really weird in the context of scum!TSE

Why do you keep bringing this up? I already said why I said it. I thought he was scum then and I wanted to hammer but I also wanted to let the game breathe a little. What if he flips town (unlikely now but in the context of that post)? What are we supposed to do D2 with a 4 page D1? I've experienced it before - it's not pretty. Can you explain how that is unreasonable or are you going to continue to label it as

weird

and pop it up every once in awhile?

I generally agree with 300 to 302. I need to think about that more. It conflicts with my current read of the game but hopefully that is the missing piece of the puzzle that I'm ignoring.

At the end, yes. But, it was the only major counterwagon prior. And, TSE had strong defenders in you and Midari, with Midari contradicting themselves and you not have a good defense.

I'd also like to add that SirCakez's post is

completely

absurd when you piece together that SirCakez didn't even realize he was voting someone else other than me at the time.

Cakez any particular reason you're still voting midari

I thought I was on Hiraki
VOTE: Hiraki

Mobile posting otherwise I'd go into it but I really also don't think I need to

I got my mojo(jojo) back in this game baby

[Galron]

Get back to where you once belong, Jojo.

[BBmolla]

Votecount 1.1

TrueSoulEnergy(6)

~ PenguinPower(59), enomis(9), Five Candles(59), Galron(14), ManateeDude(22), TrueSoulEnergy(24)

-- HAMMER

Pink Ball(2)

~ Midari Ikishima(13), Kerset(21)

Hiraki(2)

~ SirCakez(28), Pink Ball(33)


Not Voting (1): Hiraki(21)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-06-16 20:00:35)

MOD REMINDERS

enomis is getting a prod. The last post was at: 6/6/2020 9:36:00 AM which was 2 days 9 hours 11 minutes 0 seconds ago.

[BBmolla]

TrueSoulEnergy

was aligned with the

Mafia

.

Night Deadline: (expired on 2020-06-11 10:00:00)

[Auro]

Pink Ball

has been killed, and was aligned with the

Town

!

Day 2 Starts.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-06-26 00:41:00)

[Auro]

Votecount 2.1

Not Voting (9): Midari Ikishima, Hiraki, SirCakez, enomis, PenguinPower, ManateeDude, Kerset, Five Candles, Galron

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-06-26 00:41:00)

Mod Notes

Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak!

[ManateeDude]

VOTE: Hiraki

happy to explain this further but I think I'll leave the vote here for now

[SirCakez]

VOTE: midari
Obvious place to go with these flips

[PenguinPower]

How does PB's flip point to Midari?

[PenguinPower]

happy to explain this further

Yes pls.