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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:58 am
by VP Baltar
Datisi -- I'd be interested to hear if you have any Shoshin or ABR takes.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:00 am
by Datisi
In post 298, VP Baltar wrote:More generally, I don't think unwnd comes out the "winner" in this back and forth with gamma. I'm not certain I find it scummy exactly. Unwnd could be town here who just has very strong viewpoints on how the game should be played. But gamma's explanation feels fairly town to me and unwnd kept pushing like there was something there.
i don't disagree with you. do you believe in tstbs? that is the feeling i get when reading a lot fo their posts for some reason...
gimme a second.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:01 am
by Noraa
In post 288, unwnd wrote:Yes
The game is boring at the surface level for me, I'm not interested in what people type most of the time. I think it's all very easy to fake, therefore I look for tells that aren't explicit such as someone's timing or their delivery. I think scum are more likely to process their posts and even use rhetoric to give off a certain vibe, while townies are shamefully honest and full of mistakes. When it comes to you midway, my issue with reading you is that you seem afraid of mistakes. You'd rather comfortably sideline and say things like 'people are too quick to give reads' but I think that's both unhelpful and lazy. I stand by what I said earlier: Post whatever you want as long as it doesn't start to become hyperposting. You seem very afraid of being judged for a wrong read and I'm not sure if it's because you think you should really really think about them when there's about 283 posts (e.g You don't understand the concept of D1), or you're nervous for scum reasons; Right now I lean the latter.
Midway's not a newbie, no?
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:02 am
by Noraa
did you even read the post?
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:06 am
by Datisi
In post 300, VP Baltar wrote:Datisi -- I'd be interested to hear if you have any Shoshin or ABR takes.
shoshin is currently somewhat +town over random chance. it's because of nothing specific, but the way she's giving out reads without properly explaining any of them makes me think she's more interested in having thoughts about the game than presenting those thoughts in a way that would earn her townpoints.
do you have history with her?
as for albert, he's currently dead null to me. probably due to not having any direct interactions with him. i'll get back to you once that gets fixed.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:10 am
by Albert B. Rampage
Talk to me
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:11 am
by VP Baltar
No, which isn't helpful. The questions coming from her feel a little thin, but it is early.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:12 am
by Datisi
hello do you have thoughts about me
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:16 am
by Datisi
In post 306, VP Baltar wrote:
No, which isn't helpful. The questions coming from her feel a little thin, but it is early.
hrm, i asked because
200 feels... weirdly out of place if you don't have meta? oh well.
i dunno. is "just-too-lazy-to-be-scum" a thing? that's my read there right now.
going back to that post, i see in response you had townpings on midway? tl;dr on that?
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:30 am
by Albert B. Rampage
No. My scanner hasn't picked anything up.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:31 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 304, Datisi wrote:shoshin is currently somewhat +town over random chance. it's because of nothing specific, but the way she's giving out reads without properly explaining any of them makes me think she's more interested in having thoughts about the game than presenting those thoughts in a way that would earn her townpoints.
Strongly disagree.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:34 am
by VP Baltar
In post 308, Datisi wrote:hrm, i asked because 200 feels... weirdly out of place if you don't have meta? oh well.
Yeah, it seemed like a weird thing to say unless maybe she is sussing me? Idk.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:36 am
by VP Baltar
In post 308, Datisi wrote:going back to that post, i see in response you had townpings on midway? tl;dr on that?
He has been pretty eager to engage with people and put his opinions out there, even if they aren't strong ones yet.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:39 am
by Datisi
considering how long it took you to respond to this, i was expecting a 5-page essay on why i'm caught scum and should get executed immedately.
In post 310, Albert B. Rampage wrote: In post 304, Datisi wrote:shoshin is currently somewhat +town over random chance. it's because of nothing specific, but the way she's giving out reads without properly explaining any of them makes me think she's more interested in having thoughts about the game than presenting those thoughts in a way that would earn her townpoints.
Strongly disagree.
figured.
is it just her townread of noraa that you think is fake that you find scum!indicative?
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:39 am
by Noraa
why is 200 weird?
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:41 am
by Datisi
because neither shoshin nor baltar were talking with/about each other and all of a sudden she asked him for his reads? it felt as if there was some history between the two - either on-thread or out-of-thread, and there wasn't any in-thread - that's why i asked.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:44 am
by Datisi
In post 312, VP Baltar wrote: In post 308, Datisi wrote:going back to that post, i see in response you had townpings on midway? tl;dr on that?
He has been pretty eager to engage with people and put his opinions out there, even if they aren't strong ones yet.
i can vibe with this, i guess. midway is one of my "my brain and gut are telling me different things" reads. i suppose a provisional townlean won't hurt.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:46 am
by Noraa
In post 315, Datisi wrote:
because neither shoshin nor baltar were talking with/about each other and all of a sudden she asked him for his reads? it felt as if there was some history between the two - either on-thread or out-of-thread, and there wasn't any in-thread - that's why i asked.
I think ur overthinking tho I do kinda see where that comes from. I'm gonna go meta dive Shoshin rq cuz I know they have a habit of doing exactly this. I'll go find some specific posts/games to support this in just a sec.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:46 am
by VP Baltar
Can I get a link to a recent scum game of yours Datisi?
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:53 am
by Noraa
nvm shoshin hasn't played much recently. but anyways, I do think shoshin does this as either alignment.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:59 am
by VP Baltar
In post 319, Noraa wrote:nvm shoshin hasn't played much recently. but anyways, I do think shoshin does this as either alignment.
Based upon what...
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:00 am
by Noraa
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:15 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 313, Datisi wrote:is it just her townread of noraa that you think is fake that you find scum!indicative?
Yes. Scum don't scumhunt so they just say x thinks my townread is scum so I scumread x.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:21 am
by Datisi
In post 317, Noraa wrote: In post 315, Datisi wrote:
because neither shoshin nor baltar were talking with/about each other and all of a sudden she asked him for his reads? it felt as if there was some history between the two - either on-thread or out-of-thread, and there wasn't any in-thread - that's why i asked.
I think ur overthinking tho I do kinda see where that comes from. I'm gonna go meta dive Shoshin rq cuz I know they have a habit of doing exactly this. I'll go find some specific posts/games to support this in just a sec.
/shrug. you noticed i didn't scumread hear for it? i just thought it sounded awkward/out of place.
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:24 am
by midwaybear
In post 288, unwnd wrote:Post whatever you want as long as it doesn't start to become hyperposting.
That's basically what I've been doing...