Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:31 am
In post 96, RationalMadman wrote:So either T3 and me are both scum or both masons? Ever consider I didn't buddy him, he buddied me?
In post 95, orctin wrote:So basically anyone with Rathe is town - anyone who questions him is scumIn post 93, T3 wrote:Town:RM
Lean town: Rathe, Ivy
Null: Clasko
Lean scum: orctin, Andante
Scum: Dem
Only scum read in absolutes on Day 1 with no info there
If they are masons then at this point they might as well say so cause by what being said scum already know - if not then it's a sidetrack arguement to sow doubt among town
What did I misunderstand about Rathe's arguments when it was Orctin I was replying to? with that question?In post 289, Ivyeo wrote:Like, #96 could be a genuine misread or other misunderstanding of Rathe’s arguments, but it also could just be a scum intentionally misinterpreting things.
I can see why you think that this makes them scum but I heavily disagree. In previous games they acted very much on emotion and got extremely pissed off at people pushing them, calling them scum in return.In post 247, RationalMadman wrote:I'll quote later if need be but basically, Andante's reads follow this pattern:In post 244, JacksonVirgo wrote:Could you throw me some examples
Those that scumread her are scum.OMGUS is not always a scum trait, it can be but it's not the rule.
Those that townread those that scumread her lean scum or are unreadable.I do not recall this being the case, back this up with quotes if you can
Those that lurk are scum.Same as #2
Those that go gentle on her despite contributing are town.Same as #3
I have found that this adds up to mean she is either scum or is detrimental to Town if she is Town. It's not just who, it's the why. The actual reasoning behind her reads is always reading as 'let me say something to justify it' not ever wow, Andante has properly analysed this player and makes a decent point.
For instance, when I asked her what kind of meta read led her to scumread T3 she gets furious at me and tells me to reread his games. Then, says nothing more.
When she scumreads Clasko, she lists the quotes, says some generic reason for it being scummy and doesn't even remotely justify it, Clasko could easily be her partner that she tried to soft-bus (bussing where you intend to ubvote them but just in case, your vote makes you look towny later). Orctin coukd also be her partner, both have a very strange set of interactions where Orctin and Andante are two of the most active players and it's a cutthroat atmosphere yet neither has attacked the other at all, in fact Andante did quite Orctin's read on her and soecified how ridiculous it was which Orctin ignored and Andante later tells me ahe has absolutely no read on him (she should scumread him).
Did you read that game I linked you, they're actingIn post 285, RationalMadman wrote:Btw Andante JV is a viable team.
An undertoned agenda that could be interpreted in JacksonVorgo's decebt posts are to attacke and anyone they feel is viable to take the heat off of Andante. I did notice this but I did and do currently Town read it. I do notice it however, I'd like to see JV and Andante grill one another a little.
I meant T3 but was very tired, appologies.In post 303, RationalMadman wrote:ACTUALLY NONE OF MY REPLY REPLIED TO RATHE?
Grilling doesn't hurt.In post 308, JacksonVirgo wrote:Did you read that game I linked you, they're actingIn post 285, RationalMadman wrote:Btw Andante JV is a viable team.
An undertoned agenda that could be interpreted in JacksonVorgo's decebt posts are to attacke and anyone they feel is viable to take the heat off of Andante. I did notice this but I did and do currently Town read it. I do notice it however, I'd like to see JV and Andante grill one another a little.insanelylike that game and I am not wanting to eliminate that on day 1. You're also throwing me in there simply because your reads do not align with my own, and that's weak reasonings. Also you expect me to throw my reads away to grill a town-read of mine? Serious?
100%, his reaction is so hilarious because his entire post did what I said he's been doing to hide his agenda, now he makes it crystal-clear blatant.In post 310, T3 wrote:Grilling doesn't hurt.In post 308, JacksonVirgo wrote:You're also throwing me in there simply because your reads do not align with my own, and that's weak reasonings. Also you expect me to throw my reads away to grill a town-read of mine? Serious?
I don't really see how that proves she plays better as Scum. I have given her several opportunities and she has only tried to dodge me at first by focusing on T3 after doing the same thing by focusing on Clasko before him. Then she moved onto me now out of nowhere.In post 308, JacksonVirgo wrote:Did you read that game I linked you, they're actingIn post 285, RationalMadman wrote:Btw Andante JV is a viable team.
An undertoned agenda that could be interpreted in JacksonVorgo's decebt posts are to attacke and anyone they feel is viable to take the heat off of Andante. I did notice this but I did and do currently Town read it. I do notice it however, I'd like to see JV and Andante grill one another a little.insanelylike that game and I am not wanting to eliminate that on day 1. You're also throwing me in there simply because your reads do not align with my own, and that's weak reasonings. Also you expect me to throw my reads away to grill a town-read of mine? Serious?
No. Orctin is the one who did that, not me.In post 309, Ivyeo wrote:meant T3 but was very tired, appologies.
Just felt kinda manipulative to phrase his reads like that
In post 147, Andante wrote:you don't feel clasko should have a single line of substance thus far?
In post 143, Andante wrote:In post 140, Rathe wrote:i dont think T3 and rational r partners cuz they r linked
ok, thanks for repeating what I've been saying...
thoughts on clasco?
the 'gentle' proves itself true, for instance Rathe voted me and Andante instantly was gentle with Rathe, Clasko outed a towny vibe-read on me in one of his first posts, then lurked, Andante instantly justifies a scumread based on that then out of nowhere switches to T3 because he sticks to townreading me and scumreading Andante.In post 307, JacksonVirgo wrote:I can see why you think that this makes them scum but I heavily disagree. In previous games they acted very much on emotion and got extremely pissed off at people pushing them, calling them scum in return.In post 247, RationalMadman wrote:I'll quote later if need be but basically, Andante's reads follow this pattern:In post 244, JacksonVirgo wrote:Could you throw me some examples
Those that scumread her are scum.OMGUS is not always a scum trait, it can be but it's not the rule.
Those that townread those that scumread her lean scum or are unreadable.I do not recall this being the case, back this up with quotes if you can
Those that lurk are scum.Same as #2
Those that go gentle on her despite contributing are town.Same as #3
I have found that this adds up to mean she is either scum or is detrimental to Town if she is Town. It's not just who, it's the why. The actual reasoning behind her reads is always reading as 'let me say something to justify it' not ever wow, Andante has properly analysed this player and makes a decent point.
For instance, when I asked her what kind of meta read led her to scumread T3 she gets furious at me and tells me to reread his games. Then, says nothing more.
When she scumreads Clasko, she lists the quotes, says some generic reason for it being scummy and doesn't even remotely justify it, Clasko could easily be her partner that she tried to soft-bus (bussing where you intend to ubvote them but just in case, your vote makes you look towny later). Orctin coukd also be her partner, both have a very strange set of interactions where Orctin and Andante are two of the most active players and it's a cutthroat atmosphere yet neither has attacked the other at all, in fact Andante did quite Orctin's read on her and soecified how ridiculous it was which Orctin ignored and Andante later tells me ahe has absolutely no read on him (she should scumread him).