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[nomnomnom]

222*
VOTE: boxxy in case that counted as an unvote

[OutWorldER]

Official Vote Count 1.03

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elimination

With 13 votes in play it takes 7 to eliminate a player

boxxy (3): humaneatingmonkey, nomnomnom, Salsabil Faria
nomnomnom (2): Kerset, boxxy
Salsabil Faria (1): ssbm_Kyouko
Almost50 (1): Dwlee99
Seanzie (1): T3
cyrus62 (1): Seanzie
humaneatingmonkey (1): cyrus62


Not Voting (3): Almost50, Rathe, MaxTheFox,

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-06-21 12:05:50).

Mod notes: Time remaining for last confirmations: (expired on 2021-06-15 18:51:11)

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[humaneatingmonkey]

DWLEE!!!

Boxxy is scum, part 1
Boxxy is scum, part 2

[Salsabil Faria]

this is just noise preventing us from doing actual scumhunting.

he said, with trumpets and fanfare

What did you even mean by this?

[humaneatingmonkey]

this is just noise preventing us from doing actual scumhunting.

he said, with trumpets and fanfare

What did you even mean by this?

He's trying hard to announce his towniness. NAI by itself, but with the context of how he's behaving, it's scum behavior.

[Dwlee99]

Do you see my 275? I also think he is scummy.

I actually want to know what do you think? Don't you agree that the timing of his changing mind towards

humaneatingmonkey

is suspicious + he also vote

cyrus62

and still scumreading

nomnomnom

who also scumread

cyrus62

!

Is boxxy still scumreading cyrus? If so yea that looks bad but I haven't seen or don't remember that. In general I think changing your mind on a slot isn't alignment indicative unless it's a super weird shift. What specifically about the change on his monkey read did you not like?

Spoiler: giant monkey wall

ssbm_Kyouko just ninja'd my thoughts re: Boxxxy scumreading Monkey, and I think that is a good look since Monkey is an easy push right now. I'd still like to hear ssbm_Kyouko's response to those reads they gave that I asked them about, but I'm giving this slot a townlean.

But scums offen try to go for easy push(es)??

Yes, Boxxxy went for the easy push and ssbm_Kyouko questioned Boxxxy about it, which looks good for ssbm_Kyouko.

This feels like a reach, and possibly dishonest. Cause I didn't even vote monkey, i just said I support a policy lim at end of day if they don't contribute more.

I'll share it, promise! Just not right now, it's too early to reveal my secrets, and as I said, it's a hassle and a half to explain and I wouldn't want to get in the way of your scumhunting, right?
However you can trust me. 90% sure Cyrus is scum here

VOTE: nomnomnom


In other news monkey moves to slight townlean.

jesus christ that was 6 pages in no time.

rvs votes dont mean nothing for one for

two im a wild card . so i tend to make games wild

. you seem to be trying to hard relax and have fun gee. we just started . you will see me casting votes every where when i think people are scum . even when i said they were town. plus no two games of mine are the same.

wild cards are anti-town, calling yourself feels like trying to pre-deflect any scum reads people get of your plays.

VOTE: cyrus62

Also another name for this game is "werewolf" where the 'werewofl" or "wolf" is the mafia. Not entirely convinced that your wolf outrage was genuine.


My scumreads:

cyrus92
monkee

Townreads:

seanzie

Rest are null

Re: humaneatingmonkey

troll players are anti-town

i see kerset as more lay back town to be honest i wont vote them yet.

What is laid back town about Kerset?

Re: humaneatingmonkey

troll players are anti-town

Anti-town is not the same as scum. Quite early in the Day for policy as well which is what monkey would be at this point

Yeah yeah, I've had this argument many times in the past. In my experience people playing anti-town are more likely to flip scum.

Additionally I just dislike playing against troll players and will always policy them until the meta changes and we don't people to troll their way to day 2. So let it be known I support a policy on monkee unless they contribute more before end of day.

Cause I didn't even vote monkey, i just said I support a policy lim at end of day if they don't contribute more.

There are so many quotes and I've read them and I'm just not following. Can I have literally any annotation on these? It hurts my eyes trying to navigate these quote walls

I would have shared the tell already if it wasn't for the fact that 177 sent alarm bells to my brain, so instead I just decided to bait more to see what kind of reaction I'd get, and surely enough I got VOTE: 222 which might as well be a scumclaim from Boxxy at that point.

Can you share it for me?

here comes the spoon, Dwlee. it's an airplane. wide and open, chew and swallow so you grow up big and strong.

pedit:

DWLEE!!!

Boxxy is scum, part 1
Boxxy is scum, part 2

Homie you have the patience of a goldfish presented with fish food

[nomnomnom]

At this point it's not a wavelength i share with the monkey it's the entire god damn spectrum

[nomnomnom]

Can you share it for me?

y'know what I'll share it when we lim boxxy out of this earth on day 2
that is if I make it to day 2 considering that i'm probably dying tonight for this day 1

[humaneatingmonkey]

There are so many quotes and I've read them and I'm just not following. Can I have literally any annotation on these? It hurts my eyes trying to navigate these quote walls

Homie just ISO me please

[Dwlee99]

Homie just ISO me please[/quote]

Can you share it for me?

y'know what I'll share it when we lim boxxy out of this earth on day 2
that is if I make it to day 2 considering that i'm probably dying tonight for this day 1

There are so many quotes and I've read them and I'm just not following. Can I have literally any annotation on these? It hurts my eyes trying to navigate these quote walls

Okay then give me some time cause I'm not glued to this game

[humaneatingmonkey]

Is it just cyrus-boxxy-dwlee that's why dwlee is trying so hard to play blind with me? I just called his townread scum. Wouldn't he be interested? Is he delaying until the next opportunity he can to strategize with this buddies?

[humaneatingmonkey]

"Oh you think Boxxy is scum? I think he's town because he's moving the game and shit. Oh you have reasons to suspect he's scum? I can't read them despite how you've organized it for me and despite that fact that I can just ISO you or click the post links to read the posts. Sorry bro. Boxxy is still town for me."

I hope you have time to cha-cha with me later.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

@Seanzie, Not game related: Nobody answered this I think

i think thats l1 for me. and sean

Sorry, what is l1?

L1 or L-1 is eLimination minus 1, indicating a player is 1 vote shy of majority. The L was originally short for

Spoiler:

lynch

though so it's better to use E1/E-1 for Elimination/Execution, and LimLo/ELo, MLimLo/MELo instead of

Spoiler:

LyLo, MyLo

[nomnomnom]

See I'll explain to you the difference between you and boxxy, dwlee, since it seems the reason you townread boxxy at this point is because you mindmeld with him about me not sharing my tell.
You have a good reason to ask for my tell and be annoyed that I won't reveal it because you think cyrus townslipped earlier and you think he's town, so you have a good reason to ask a player that has claimed has a scumtell on that same player.
Boxxy on the other hand has absolutely no reason to be annoyed with me because he scumread cyrus by default. At best he sees it that we agree on cyrus being scum, and at worst he's slightly annoyed that I won't reveal my tell, which is understandable. However voting me is an absolute scumclaim in this situation because it makes no sense within his progression and it just feels like he's trying to sell this read as voting what he considers to be anti-town, when he has established beforehand he has scumreads, on cyrus nonetheless. This is not a scumhunting mindset. Boxxy just isn't town here.

[humaneatingmonkey]

See I'll explain to you the difference between you and boxxy, dwlee, since it seems the reason you townread boxxy at this point is because you mindmeld with him about me not sharing my tell.
You have a good reason to ask for my tell and be annoyed that I won't reveal it because you think cyrus townslipped earlier and you think he's town, so you have a good reason to ask a player that has claimed has a scumtell on that same player.
Boxxy on the other hand has absolutely no reason to be annoyed with me because he scumread cyrus by default. At best he sees it that we agree on cyrus being scum, and at worst he's slightly annoyed that I won't reveal my tell, which is understandable. However voting me is an absolute scumclaim in this situation because it makes no sense within his progression and it just feels like he's trying to sell this read as voting what he considers to be anti-town, when he has established beforehand he has scumreads, on cyrus nonetheless. This is not a scumhunting mindset. Boxxy just isn't town here.

i will high five you, but only if you're town

[nomnomnom]

See I'll explain to you the difference between you and boxxy, dwlee, since it seems the reason you townread boxxy at this point is because you mindmeld with him about me not sharing my tell.
You have a good reason to ask for my tell and be annoyed that I won't reveal it because you think cyrus townslipped earlier and you think he's town, so you have a good reason to ask a player that has claimed has a scumtell on that same player.
Boxxy on the other hand has absolutely no reason to be annoyed with me because he scumread cyrus by default. At best he sees it that we agree on cyrus being scum, and at worst he's slightly annoyed that I won't reveal my tell, which is understandable. However voting me is an absolute scumclaim in this situation because it makes no sense within his progression and it just feels like he's trying to sell this read as voting what he considers to be anti-town, when he has established beforehand he has scumreads, on cyrus nonetheless. This is not a scumhunting mindset. Boxxy just isn't town here.

i will high five you, but only if you're town

high five

[Dwlee99]

Is it just cyrus-boxxy-dwlee that's why dwlee is trying so hard to play blind with me? I just called his townread scum. Wouldn't he be interested? Is he delaying until the next opportunity he can to strategize with this buddies?

If I wasn't interested I wouldn't be having this conversation at all. I don't gain anything from unannotated quote walls. It's not how I play the game. If I'm not seeing the pattern I'm not seeing it which is why I'm asking you to actually explain it rather than just post walls of quotes.

See I'll explain to you the difference between you and boxxy, dwlee, since it seems the reason you townread boxxy at this point is because you mindmeld with him about me not sharing my tell.
You have a good reason to ask for my tell and be annoyed that I won't reveal it because you think cyrus townslipped earlier and you think he's town, so you have a good reason to ask a player that has claimed has a scumtell on that same player.
Boxxy on the other hand has absolutely no reason to be annoyed with me because he scumread cyrus by default. At best he sees it that we agree on cyrus being scum, and at worst he's slightly annoyed that I won't reveal my tell, which is understandable. However voting me is an absolute scumclaim in this situation because it makes no sense within his progression and it just feels like he's trying to sell this read as voting what he considers to be anti-town, when he has established beforehand he has scumreads, on cyrus nonetheless. This is not a scumhunting mindset. Boxxy just isn't town here.

Okay this I can actually read, thanks. I'm gonna reread y'all's joint ISO and the interaction.

[humaneatingmonkey]

If I wasn't interested I wouldn't be having this conversation at all. I don't gain anything from unannotated quote walls. It's not how I play the game. If I'm not seeing the pattern I'm not seeing it which is why I'm asking you to actually explain it rather than just post walls of quotes.

Okay Dwlee fair enough I will effort much further and put everything in a wall that has 0 subquotes. Would that be good?

[Dwlee99]

If I wasn't interested I wouldn't be having this conversation at all. I don't gain anything from unannotated quote walls. It's not how I play the game. If I'm not seeing the pattern I'm not seeing it which is why I'm asking you to actually explain it rather than just post walls of quotes.

Okay Dwlee fair enough I will effort much further and put everything in a wall that has 0 subquotes. Would that be good?

Dude, you literally posted like 6 quotes in a row without any explanation. You could at least do the low-effort stuff I do like "weird vibes," "bad progression," etc.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Okay I will do this

[Salsabil Faria]

Do you see my 275? I also think he is scummy.

I actually want to know what do you think? Don't you agree that the timing of his changing mind towards

humaneatingmonkey

is suspicious + he also vote

cyrus62

and still scumreading

nomnomnom

who also scumread

cyrus62

!

Is boxxy still scumreading cyrus? If so yea that looks bad but I haven't seen or don't remember that. In general I think changing your mind on a slot isn't alignment indicative unless it's a super weird shift. What specifically about the change on his monkey read did you not like?

Dude, you're slipping
256
264

Spoiler: EBWOP of 2 mistakes

let's do boxxy guys. it's a good wagon

This is a super weird take? I've liked boxxy's posting a lot. I'm still trying to figure out nom though. I don't know if nom withholding the tell is inherently scummy but I'd really like to hear it if it's going to be justifying a scum read this early especially when it feels like cyrus town-slipped.

What is your preferred wagon atm?

I'm trying to sort nom right now because our views on boxxxy are so incongruent

Do you see my 275? I also think he is scummy.

The post I mentioned here is wrong, should be 256 instead of 275.

Do you see my 275? I also think he is scummy.

I actually want to know what do you think? Don't you agree that the timing of his changing mind towards

humaneatingmonkey

is suspicious + he also vote

cyrus62

and still scumreading

nomnomnom

who also scumread

cyrus62

!

It was meant to be like this:

Do you see my 275? I also think he is scummy.

Yes, you voted him.

I actually want to know what do you think? Don't you agree that the timing of his changing mind towards

humaneatingmonkey

is suspicious + he also vote

cyrus62

and still scumreading

nomnomnom

who also scumread

cyrus62

!

[Salsabil Faria]

Is it just cyrus-boxxy-dwlee

Too good to be true!

[nomnomnom]

Nah I don't think dwlee is scum here. I think town!dwlee makes sense given how he reacted to my whole tell stuff and just doesn't see what we see and just sees walls of posts.
I still think boxxy-cyrus are a team though. Boxxy is just pretty much the day 1 lim here unless jesus shows up and slaps me on the cheeks.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Boxxy's posts aren't good. TL;DR Boxxy is positioning himself to be the town's lord and savior from these anti-town scrubs and he's gonna scumhunt the scum to infinity and beyond. I read this as scum who's trying to score towncred. This is not how town actually score towncred. Town score towncred by making an effort in actually sorting slots. But in fact, he's done the opposite — he's reading into things very superficially and focuses much more on keeping the 'tegridy of muh tuhwn.

Corroborating evidence: #200 (and my comment #208)

He also did this:
> Seanzie is dishonest
> votes nomnomnom for "anti-town behavior"
Reference: #222

He also did this:
>monkey is anti-town and should be lynched
>hahaha i was just saying that just in case!
Reference: #149 → #151 → #172 → #222 (the first part)

That's just my complaint. There's a lot of tickets from noms and Salsabil too.

[Dwlee99]

Do you see my 275? I also think he is scummy.

I actually want to know what do you think? Don't you agree that the timing of his changing mind towards

humaneatingmonkey

is suspicious + he also vote

cyrus62

and still scumreading

nomnomnom

who also scumread

cyrus62

!

Is boxxy still scumreading cyrus? If so yea that looks bad but I haven't seen or don't remember that. In general I think changing your mind on a slot isn't alignment indicative unless it's a super weird shift. What specifically about the change on his monkey read did you not like?

Dude, you're slipping
256
264

Spoiler: EBWOP of 2 mistakes

let's do boxxy guys. it's a good wagon

This is a super weird take? I've liked boxxy's posting a lot. I'm still trying to figure out nom though. I don't know if nom withholding the tell is inherently scummy but I'd really like to hear it if it's going to be justifying a scum read this early especially when it feels like cyrus town-slipped.

What is your preferred wagon atm?

I'm trying to sort nom right now because our views on boxxxy are so incongruent

Do you see my 275? I also think he is scummy.

The post I mentioned here is wrong, should be 256 instead of 275.

Do you see my 275? I also think he is scummy.

I actually want to know what do you think? Don't you agree that the timing of his changing mind towards

humaneatingmonkey

is suspicious + he also vote

cyrus62

and still scumreading

nomnomnom

who also scumread

cyrus62

!

It was meant to be like this:

Do you see my 275? I also think he is scummy.

Yes, you voted him.

I actually want to know what do you think? Don't you agree that the timing of his changing mind towards

humaneatingmonkey

is suspicious + he also vote

cyrus62

and still scumreading

nomnomnom

who also scumread

cyrus62

!

I'm confused? I looked at 275 cause that's what you told me to look at and didn't understand what about your question pointed towards scum!boxxy. I figured you were implying that him finding HEM's posting "legit" was scummy, which I don't agree with at all.