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[cyrus62]

14 hours till day ends

[Flea The Magician]

OK, so I haven't actually voted or pushed based on activity, I generally find activity to be NAI and I like to encourage people to participate.

Show your working for me? Because I am not seeing what you're seeing at all.

[marcistar]

VOTE: Imaginality bad push bad shad . Also not following the game. Yes I know it was a weak crumb but it worked.

am i blind o-o wheres the shade in imaginalitys posts?

I’m town.

I don't like this.

why dont u like it?

Weekend stuff.

UNVOTE: Gamma

Kitty may be scum for multiple reasons. I'll think when I'm on.

Being busy means I'm scum. I see.

do u have spicy tea for us?

Smoke and Distance are two of my SRs at this point in the game.

i see u mentioned something about smoke that you dont like, but what makes distance one of ur scumreads..?

I don't want ssbm as MO, I think Cupcake is a better pick than Flea. I'd go for Flea if it's still between Flea or ssbm closer to day end though.

what makes u want cupcake as market owner? (:

HEAL: vfp

why vfp?

ssbm for being overly townie.

whys being overly townie put them in ur scumreads..? isn't being overly townie a good thing ?

[cyrus62]

Sure, but that's not what Alisae was saying.

i think gamma and kyouko are town

i think forming reads so quick is nai but i dislike it.

You only dislike it because we aren’t sheep that will listen to your weak cries for power

one trick to this game is asking what one can bid on . me i will be honest , im broke right now but wont say what went where till later on.

There doesn't seem to be a heap of good reasons for a town player to announce they've spent their full wad. There is a good reason for scum to - to deter town from voting you out.

VOTE: cyrus62

VOTE: Imaginality bad push bad shad . Also not following the game. Yes I know it was a weak crumb but it worked.

am i blind o-o wheres the shade in imaginalitys posts?

I’m town.

I don't like this.

why dont u like it?

Weekend stuff.

UNVOTE: Gamma

Kitty may be scum for multiple reasons. I'll think when I'm on.

Being busy means I'm scum. I see.

do u have spicy tea for us?

Smoke and Distance are two of my SRs at this point in the game.

i see u mentioned something about smoke that you dont like, but what makes distance one of ur scumreads..?

I don't want ssbm as MO, I think Cupcake is a better pick than Flea. I'd go for Flea if it's still between Flea or ssbm closer to day end though.

what makes u want cupcake as market owner? (:

HEAL: vfp

why vfp?

ssbm for being overly townie.

whys being overly townie put them in ur scumreads..? isn't being overly townie a good thing ?

scum want to be thought as scummy. town can use a little bit of scum so they can live past the nk.

[cyrus62]

OK, so I haven't actually voted or pushed based on activity, I generally find activity to be NAI and I like to encourage people to participate.

Show your working for me? Because I am not seeing what you're seeing at all.

basically imagnality started saying i was sus for stateing like i was trying to get town cred for saying i was the one who bided on everything only after . ssbm said i looked like town. but before that he was trying to say i was bad for saying i blow my money already. it cant be both ways. either he isnt reading his own post or hes just making bad pushes.

[Flea The Magician]

OK... scum absoltuely do not want to be seen as scummy, they need to strike a balance between being obvtown and town as people will question an obvtown target living, and looking scummy will get them eliminated.


I want you to show me where I've pushed based on activity and post count.


PEdit: That is not an answer to what I wanted.

[marcistar]

scum want to be thought as scummy. town can use a little bit of scum so they can live past the nk.

"scum want to be thought as scummy." im assuming u put scummy instead of townie by accident.
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this is true, but only for some people i feel like. people have different mindsets, so im still gonna be confused.

[cyrus62]

Sure, but that's not what Alisae was saying.

i think gamma and kyouko are town

i think forming reads so quick is nai but i dislike it.

You only dislike it because we aren’t sheep that will listen to your weak cries for power

one trick to this game is asking what one can bid on . me i will be honest , im broke right now but wont say what went where till later on.

There doesn't seem to be a heap of good reasons for a town player to announce they've spent their full wad. There is a good reason for scum to - to deter town from voting you out.

VOTE: cyrus62

VOTE: Imaginality bad push bad shad . Also not following the game. Yes I know it was a weak crumb but it worked.

am i blind o-o wheres the shade in imaginalitys posts?

I’m town.

I don't like this.

why dont u like it?

Weekend stuff.

UNVOTE: Gamma

Kitty may be scum for multiple reasons. I'll think when I'm on.

Being busy means I'm scum. I see.

do u have spicy tea for us?

Smoke and Distance are two of my SRs at this point in the game.

i see u mentioned something about smoke that you dont like, but what makes distance one of ur scumreads..?

I don't want ssbm as MO, I think Cupcake is a better pick than Flea. I'd go for Flea if it's still between Flea or ssbm closer to day end though.

what makes u want cupcake as market owner? (:

HEAL: vfp

why vfp?

ssbm for being overly townie.

whys being overly townie put them in ur scumreads..? isn't being overly townie a good thing ?

scum want to be thought as scummy. town can use a little bit of scum so they can live past the nk.

i messd up here i ment scum want to be seen as town like as they can.

[cyrus62]

The variance in post counts does me a concern...

VOTE: cyrus for now, Distance really needs to pick up some slack...

In an odd move I'm actually not going to support anyone else for MO because ssbm while the reasonable take is making me raise an eyebrow a touch.

what was this then

[ssbm_Kyouko]

OK, so I haven't actually voted or pushed based on activity, I generally find activity to be NAI and I like to encourage people to participate.

Show your working for me? Because I am not seeing what you're seeing at all.

basically imagnality started saying i was sus for stateing like i was trying to get town cred for saying i was the one who bided on everything only after . ssbm said i looked like town.

but before that he was trying to say i was bad for saying i blow my money already. it cant be both ways. either he isnt reading his own post or hes just making bad pushes

.

Are you talking about me or Imaginality here when you say "he"?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

i feel like there would be more resistance to kyo mo though

Why do you think this? What does a lack of resistance to me as MO say to you?

Personally I think theres been a lot of resistance to it, whether direct or indirect, and enough players have resisted it can't all be from scum. That's a good thing for later though.

[Flea The Magician]

The variance in post counts does me a concern...

VOTE: cyrus for now, Distance really needs to pick up some slack...

In an odd move I'm actually not going to support anyone else for MO because ssbm while the reasonable take is making me raise an eyebrow a touch.

what was this then

That is me stating post count disparity is concerning me slightly, as some slots are more active than others; followed by a vote on you, a statement informing people that I believe Distance needs to pick up some slack, and having a minor concern about another player.

I will not do your work for you Cyrus, Where do I push or vote based on post counts?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Acutally, I'm going to follow up and VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko for post #179. Between that possible scum slip, and the downplaying of hitman... on which note, also if ssbm_Kyouko expects MO to draw the NK (per post #31) why didn't he suggest MO bid for scum powers like hitman instead of no-bid? I feel like he's scum hoping to pick up hitman for cheap.


And HEAL: imaginality

This is awful. This is absolutely awful given your own posting. You're showing awareness of the game mechanics while trying to lead town down a bad road.

What is the bad road you refer to?

[Flea The Magician]

Previous suggestions of "town should spend excessively to prevent scum getting these powers"

[imaginality]

In no way is it excessive spending. Considering at least 6 town players will get our money back, but probably more (if scum outbid us for one or more of the powers). If scum get two, tomorrow we still have six players with their full stack, and two with either their full stack or a PR (depending on how the voting and NK go).

[imaginality]

..?

I don't want ssbm as MO, I think Cupcake is a better pick than Flea. I'd go for Flea if it's still between Flea or ssbm closer to day end though.

what makes u want cupcake as market owner? (:

I think Cupcake is town, and I think Cupcake is capable of making smart choices about which powers to boost and which replacement to choose. And I wanted to choose someone with at least one vote already to make it more likely they could become a valid alternative to ssbm and Flea in time before day end.

[imaginality]

OK, so I haven't actually voted or pushed based on activity, I generally find activity to be NAI and I like to encourage people to participate.

Show your working for me? Because I am not seeing what you're seeing at all.

basically imagnality started saying i was sus for stateing like i was trying to get town cred for saying i was the one who bided on everything only after . ssbm said i looked like town. but before that he was trying to say i was bad for saying i blow my money already. it cant be both ways. either he isnt reading his own post or hes just making bad pushes.

In the early stage I felt it was bad because if certain players have announced they've spent all their money, it helps direct scum for the night kill (if they want to kill players who more likely still have a full wallet).
I also felt like it could have been an attempt to deter wagons on you i.e. "don't vote for me, I might have a PR".

When I saw the mid day market update and it was clear you must have been the 125 bidder (no bid of 500, and no one calling your claim to have spent all your money as a lie), then I felt like the particular way in which you spent your money wouldn't have had the wagon deterring effect so that lowered my suspicion of you.

[imaginality]

I never thought you were trying to get town cred through your bids though (if I understand that phrase correctly as 'trying to have others read you as town'. My point about that was more that other players might read you as having increased chance of having a PR and therefore riskier to exile all else being equal.

[cyrus62]

OK, so I haven't actually voted or pushed based on activity, I generally find activity to be NAI and I like to encourage people to participate.

Show your working for me? Because I am not seeing what you're seeing at all.

basically imagnality started saying i was sus for stateing like i was trying to get town cred for saying i was the one who bided on everything only after . ssbm said i looked like town.

but before that he was trying to say i was bad for saying i blow my money already. it cant be both ways. either he isnt reading his own post or hes just making bad pushes

.

Are you talking about me or Imaginality here when you say "he"?

i call everyone he sorry but it was at imagin

[ssbm_Kyouko]

It wasn't a gendering thing, it just didnt read clearly since it comes right after my name

[Flea The Magician]

In no way is it excessive spending. Considering at least 6 town players will get our money back, but probably more (if scum outbid us for one or more of the powers). If scum get two, tomorrow we still have six players with their full stack, and two with either their full stack or a PR (depending on how the voting and NK go).

So we have days 2, 3 and 4 to go with the spending, when then?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I've waited long enough and nobody else noticed that Imaginality directed his response to

Marci's

question about my scumslip at

Misty

. I think generally scum are aware of their partners and despite the similarities in the names if Imaginality flips red they should both be treated as town.

[Gypyx]

votecount 1.7

Gamma Emerald (0)
KittyTacky (1) - Distance
mastina (0)
Smoke and Mirrors (1) KittyTacky
Cupcake Butterfly (0)
ssbm_Kyouko (1) - Imaginality
Flea The Magician (0)
Mistyx (0)
cyrus62 (1) Flea The Magician
imaginality (2) ssbm_Kyouko ; Cyrus62
marcistar (0)
Distance (2) Marcistar ; Gamma Emerald
VFP (0)

not voting (5) - Everyone else

day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-21 02:12:49)

Marketplace owner

Gamma Emerald (0)
KittyTacky (0)
mastina (0)
Smoke and Mirrors (1) - Smoke And Mirrors
Cupcake Butterfly (2) - Cupcake Butterfly ; Imaginality
ssbm_Kyouko (4) ssbm_Kyouko ; distance ; Gamma Emerald ; Mistyx
Flea The Magician (3) - Flea The Magician ; VFP ; Mastina
Mistyx (0)
cyrus62 (0)
imaginality (0)
marcistar (0)
Distance (0)
VFP (1) - Cyrus62

Please vote vote for the marketplace owner with HEAL: tags

auction

the auctioned abilities are :

1-shot Cop - the top bet during the mid point is 125

2-shot Doctor - the top bet during the mid point is 125

1-shot Hitman - the top bet during the mid point is 125

1-shot Roleblocker - the top bet during the mid point is 125

[imaginality]

In no way is it excessive spending. Considering at least 6 town players will get our money back, but probably more (if scum outbid us for one or more of the powers). If scum get two, tomorrow we still have six players with their full stack, and two with either their full stack or a PR (depending on how the voting and NK go).

So we have days 2, 3 and 4 to go with the spending, when then?

I'm not sure what your question is but if you're implying our money runs out too early under my approach, I don't think that's true:
- we have ten players
- bid are refunded if the bidder doesn't win
- each scum player can only outbid a town player once (if we're bidding 401 or more)

That means we win 7-10 of the PRs over the first three days (depending on scum bidding choices).

This only limits us when we get to day 4 bidding. Worst case (all convictions and NKs are town with PRs) we go into D4 with one town with PR and 3 with either a PR or a full wallet. I don't think that leaves us screwed over in the slightest, especially if our MO makes good choices about what to boost.

Also note that the above analysis assumes we bid high on all roles each day but depending on the roles on offer we can adjust our approach (e.g. If godfather comes up and we know we've already used the cop power, no point bidding for that).

[imaginality]

@Distance why did you vote for Kitty?