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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:27 am
by Pavowski
In post 298, cyrus62 wrote:I think we just need to have one more on hanki to form the 5.
It's not that simple. 5 people have to have the same list of 5 names.

We have a lot of overlap, but we are not at the "one more vote needs to move" phase.

And we have plenty of time.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:35 am
by Enchant
In post 299, cyrus62 wrote:Nathann can you hurt me and add hanki to your 5.
HURT: All

I stopping caring from this moment.


You opened eyes to me, that i am wrong. TOWN CAN AND WILL WIN D1!

Yes! Especially with me and you out of Coalition, Town will quess 5 other townies! From 7 people, which contain 5 townies exactly! Yes. You quess them ideally. I believe in your godlike scumreading.


Either way. I ignoring Cyrus for whole game. Go kill me, it's better that explaining something to him.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:38 am
by Pavowski
In post 273, Nathann wrote:
In post 179, yessiree wrote:
In post 177, Enchant wrote:
In post 174, cyrus62 wrote: I'm aiming for the win on day one
PFDPFPSDFPDPSF
AHAHAHHAHA

Sorry not wasting my mental sanity on you. Just take HEAL: cyrus62.
Spoiler:
It's not because of exact this statement but i veryvery doubt it comes from mafia with these actions and statements.
surely you have other townreads besides cyrus and yourself by now
In post 181, yessiree wrote:ok

VOTE: enchant
I forgot about these posts, this sequence gave me a bad vibe about yessiree. I can't quite place it, feels a bit... forced? Like either he's attacking the loltownie for doing funny things and trying to keep busy, or he's attempting some clunky distancing. Either way, feels off for some reason.
The longer we go without hearing from Yessirree, the less good I feel about having him in my 5.

Nathann I hope you're feeling better. Convince me Farren is town?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:40 am
by Nathann
Enchant, nobody is forbidding you from finding three Townreads and wanting to vote anyone besides the three. But we don't need to gamethrow our one chance at insta-win for it?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:41 am
by Nathann
In post 299, cyrus62 wrote:Nathann can you hurt me and add hanki to your 5.
Nope, he's very close to the bottom of my reads, if not at the very bottom. Convince me he's Town?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:44 am
by Nathann
In post 302, Pavowski wrote:Nathann I hope you're feeling better. Convince me Farren is town?
Not really, but thank you. Farren is a combination of "I have gotten vague positive vibes from this person" and "more people feel worse than they do". I'll reread his ISO and point out what I find Townie when I get the chance, hopefully before I sleep.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:52 am
by Farren
In post 270, Enchant wrote:Alright, i think we should win with this.

HURT: Enchant
HURT: Cyrus62
HEAL: Save The Dragons
HEAL: Hanai
HEAL: Nathann
HEAL: yesaree
HEAL: Farren

If Cyrus, Pav and anime are town, we won this with elumination of whole Coalition which should contain 2 mafia.

Yes. Not on Day 1. BUT MORE LIKELY.
Follow please.
I reject this philosophy entirely. If the Coalition fails and contains only one scum, eliminating the entire Coalition even after flipping a scum guarantees a loss.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:54 am
by Farren
In post 269, Nathann wrote:
In post 245, Hakai wrote:Earlier he made a post that seemed like it was meant to deliberately call attention to the fact he was hurting himself in an attempt to gain townreads.
And you still haven't replied to me about how the fact that cyrus asked me to hurt myself played the part, and how it differs from Pavowski doing the exact same thing a few posts earlier.
This is part of what I like about Nathann, for the record. Continuing to follow through. That tells me the questions have meaning, and that he's interested in hearing the answers.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:58 am
by cyrus62
In post 300, Pavowski wrote:
In post 298, cyrus62 wrote:I think we just need to have one more on hanki to form the 5.
It's not that simple. 5 people have to have the same list of 5 names.

We have a lot of overlap, but we are not at the "one more vote needs to move" phase.

And we have plenty of time.
Odd I didn't think we needed the exact same 5 to win I thought if 5 people got voted by 5 that was a lock.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:58 am
by Farren
In post 271, Nathann wrote:Kyouko gives me bad vibes because I feel like it's a huge stretch to not only confidently declare me Scum over word choice, but to be so confident to declare I'm Townspewing people from it.
For reasons
, I feel like she shouldn't be rushing to read me on tone, especially not like that.
What are those reasons?

And please elaborate more on the bad vibes. I think I understand where they're coming from, but I want to hear it from you.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:01 am
by cyrus62
Hmm do I dare town read enchant for that out burst? I haven't seen him get mad as town or scum . Btw I'm going though hell in rl right now so please do not get angry over the game.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:02 am
by cyrus62
I am sad. Okay. But I want to have fun.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:03 am
by Farren
In post 276, Enchant wrote:Ergo, i think D1 win is worthy sacrifice in long run. If you all want to go for D1 Win, i can't stop you. But should understand.
You not gonna win. Sad but true.
Coalitions have succeeded before. Why do you think we can't succeed?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:05 am
by cyrus62
I see so who wants to tell me who I should remove . Right now I have ferren hakin , pave save the dragons and nathann . How should I change this.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:06 am
by cyrus62
In post 312, Farren wrote:
In post 276, Enchant wrote:Ergo, i think D1 win is worthy sacrifice in long run. If you all want to go for D1 Win, i can't stop you. But should understand.
You not gonna win. Sad but true.
Coalitions have succeeded before. Why do you think we can't succeed?
Thanks I was hoping for bragging rights.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:06 am
by Farren
In post 283, Nathann wrote:If I hadn't hurt myself, cyrus would've been Scumreading me. I did, so Hakai is Scumreading me. Dammed if you do...
What's your current experience with Mafia? How do games usually go for you?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:06 am
by Nathann
cyrus, why is Hakai Town? (And Farren, I'll get to you later too.)

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:08 am
by Nathann
In post 315, Farren wrote:
In post 283, Nathann wrote:If I hadn't hurt myself, cyrus would've been Scumreading me. I did, so Hakai is Scumreading me. Dammed if you do...
What's your current experience with Mafia? How do games usually go for you?
Unfortunate pedit to click through - I have a decent amount of Mafia experience, though it's questionable if that translates to skill, games seem to be hit-or-miss. Though I generally am able to make people Townread me as Town, which is partly why I've been wishing to play this setup.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:12 am
by cyrus62
In post 304, Nathann wrote:
In post 299, cyrus62 wrote:Nathann can you hurt me and add hanki to your 5.
Nope, he's very close to the bottom of my reads, if not at the very bottom. Convince me he's Town?
It's his play stateing I'm out of my scumrange is puzzling to me. But I think scum wouldn't give up a easy elemation like that.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:12 am
by Farren
In post 276, Enchant wrote:We most likely will try to elim people from Coalition anyway, before we hit one mafia. So having both of them in Coalition helps gradually and speedups time when we kill one of them.
As told, finding 5 townies around you all is impossible task for me. If you ignore me and somehow win... Well. I don't mind actually and take my words back.
If we continue, then we will be debuffed for whole game, because we will drink wine for whole game, wondering "How much mafia in Coalition anyway?".
Should take this as an answer to my question about why you think we can't win.

This is also concerning, because if you're Town and you put yourself in the Coalition, you're only looking for four Townies. You wouldn't need to look for five. So either you're deliberately looking at things through a lens of added, unnecessary difficulty, or you're looking at things through a lens of scumminess. Which one and why, or am I missing something?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:13 am
by Pavowski
In post 307, Farren wrote:
In post 269, Nathann wrote:
In post 245, Hakai wrote:Earlier he made a post that seemed like it was meant to deliberately call attention to the fact he was hurting himself in an attempt to gain townreads.
And you still haven't replied to me about how the fact that cyrus asked me to hurt myself played the part, and how it differs from Pavowski doing the exact same thing a few posts earlier.
This is part of what I like about Nathann, for the record. Continuing to follow through. That tells me the questions have meaning, and that he's interested in hearing the answers.
Agree, I am liking nathann more today

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:14 am
by Save The Dragons
i feel like hakai has just been talking about how much he's played with all of us but not giving as much constructive stuff.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:15 am
by Farren
In post 318, cyrus62 wrote:It's his play stateing I'm out of my scumrange is puzzling to me. But I think scum wouldn't give up a easy elemation like that.
Are you out of your scumrange?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:17 am
by cyrus62
Normally scum use me as lhf I'm always scum read as town and more so as scum. But save by the bell also said I was town to the point I feel uneasy with how easy I'm being town read.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:19 am
by Save The Dragons
i haven't played with scum!cyrus but i've played with town!cyrus and i just don't think there's much difference you kind of just post whatever's on your mind and i think you'd be a little more...reserved as scum maybe.