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1. I dont TR you. I'm holidng back the TR on you, and I've been discussing it with other people.
2. I dont have any problem with you scumreading me despite me townreading you. I have a problem with you scumreading me and not voting me meanwhile you're voting Dwlee because "pressure" when you've provided doubt on their scumminess- humaneatingmonkey
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and not the scum engaging you right now. because you dont think you can push me into an elim.In post 299, GuiltyLion wrote:yep. I'm still very interested in sorting Dwlee
weird considering the only people who think like that are scum. there's a lot of space for you to build a wagon on me right now.- humaneatingmonkey
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le old active defenseIn post 297, GuiltyLion wrote:I am frequently mistakenly scumread. Do you think, right now between both of our ISOs, the odds that I am scum are higher than the odds that Dwlee is scum?- humaneatingmonkey
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whatever my alignment is? i can only have this perspective when i'm town.In post 297, GuiltyLion wrote:and, whatever your alignment is, you're also committing the mafia fallacy of finding reasons to scumread the player who is putting forth a ton of content into the thread, over the player who made a handful of scummy posts and since hasn't posted
you're speaking to your scumread like they're town.- GuiltyLion
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I'm sorry, did the dictionary get updated when I wasn't looking so that "I'm leaning into GL town" (257) doesn't actually mean you are town-leaning me?In post 300, humaneatingmonkey wrote:1. I dont TR you. I'm holidng back the TR on you, and I've been discussing it with other people.
2. I dont have any problem with you scumreading me despite me townreading you. I have a problem with you scumreading me and not voting me meanwhile you're voting Dwlee because "pressure" when you've provided doubt on their scumminess
I doubtedone particular pointI made about Dwlee, I still altogether don't find any of their posts townie and that merits a scumread and a vote. and I have a policy of keeping my vote on the larger wagon even when I also scumread other players at the same time. because wagons are good for generating content and a smorgasbord of E-6 wagons are not."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- humaneatingmonkey
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yeah, because I'm frequently wrong about my scumreads, it's Day 1 and we have no hard info and I have to consider constantly that I might be wildly off in my assessment of the gameIn post 303, humaneatingmonkey wrote:you're speaking to your scumread like they're town.
this is pure gotcha-ism, don't do gotcha-ism, it isn't a good look"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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sick dodge here btwIn post 298, GuiltyLion wrote:
care to point out what I'm reframing? I can cite specific posts for each of these.In post 295, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
oh you reframed the conversation to fit your agenda. +scumIn post 292, GuiltyLion wrote:HEM: "I TR GL for [x] and [y] reasons"
GL: "I don't like HEM TRing me for those reasons, they don't feel natural to me nor are they all that AI"
HEM: "wait, so you scumread me? despite me townreading you?"
GL: "yeah, your reasoning feels fake to me"
HEM: VOTE:"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- humaneatingmonkey
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like if you spend some real time reading you'd understand that I'm challenging my read on youIn post 304, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm sorry, did the dictionary get updated when I wasn't looking so that "I'm leaning into GL town" (257) doesn't actually mean you are town-leaning me?- humaneatingmonkey
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did I misunderstand these posts?In post 300, humaneatingmonkey wrote:2. I dont have any problem with you scumreading me despite me townreading you.
In post 268, humaneatingmonkey wrote:GL, why? Why do you think I'm scum? I don't even think Koba really believes what they're saying, but you do? Can you explain your read on me?In post 271, humaneatingmonkey wrote:that sounds like horseshit. why shouldn't i townread you?
what do you think about roden's read on dwlee?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- humaneatingmonkey
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if you're saying that previous conversation was wholly irrelevant to you voting me, then it seems like literally your only reason for scumreading me is that I'm voting Dwlee instead of you
I've already explained several times why I'm currently doing that, so if you don't buy my explanation then we'll have to just let other people decide how they feel about this back and forth"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- humaneatingmonkey
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how does any of these posts indicate that the reason why i'm voting you is becauseIn post 310, GuiltyLion wrote:
did I misunderstand these posts?In post 300, humaneatingmonkey wrote:2. I dont have any problem with you scumreading me despite me townreading you.
In post 268, humaneatingmonkey wrote:GL, why? Why do you think I'm scum? I don't even think Koba really believes what they're saying, but you do? Can you explain your read on me?In post 271, humaneatingmonkey wrote:that sounds like horseshit. why shouldn't i townread you?
what do you think about roden's read on dwlee?
you're scumreading me despite me townreading you?- GuiltyLion
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uh... it's pretty obvious, you asked me why I think you're scum, I answered, you said it was "horseshit" and then asked why you shouldn't townread meIn post 311, humaneatingmonkey wrote:@Koba
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also appealing to the rest of the playerlist
Let's get a REAL wagon going.
if none of that makes you suspicious of me then what was your point with any of it?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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whoops, quote bug, but I do greatly want to see what Dwlee in particular thinks about our little clash so consider that a signal boost"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- humaneatingmonkey
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I take everything seriously, I'm a sweaty tryhard. famously so"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- humaneatingmonkey
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I did want this answered - can I assume and thus state for the record for all posterity that your answer is "Unequivocally, yes"?In post 297, GuiltyLion wrote:I am frequently mistakenly scumread. Do you think, right now between both of our ISOs, the odds that I am scum are higher than the odds that Dwlee is scum?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- humaneatingmonkey
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alright, fair enough. that's honestly a baffling position to me for someone to take but if you're sticking with it then I got nothing more to say. let's hope for your sake that your read on Dwlee ages well, because the one on me will not"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- humaneatingmonkey
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Dwlee has 5 posts and none of them strike me as Towny Posts that especially Town Town. if you disagree with that, point me to the town post that I missed. so anyone with a TR there is already kinda inherently odd to me.
meanwhile, I have some 46 posts. I'll grant that there's almost certainly reasons to worry about or suspect me in those 46 posts, especially since I also don't think I'm a player that should be easily townread. that's the nature of mafia
however, I think from a general probability sense, if you're looking at two players and thinking you have more confidently sorted the one with 5 posts as not-scum than the player with 46, on D1 without any flips for associatives or hard information, then I would sayat bestyou are biasing, either against me or pro-Dwlee. when you have Dwlee as town and me as scum at this point, especially in partbecauseI'm voting Dwlee, to me it feels like you're suggesting that a dwlee redflip would surprise you more than a GL greenflip. I have a hard time grokking that perspective."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- humaneatingmonkey
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