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In post 284, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Andante [3]: Radical Rat, Loki Dokie, NotAHecticAlt

In post 284, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Ejjinami [3]: NotAHecticAlt, Andante, Aisa
Aisa [2]: Fidget, Ejjinami

In post 304, Fidget wrote:is that even a phrase like that? I meant as in, they're especially powerful and overqualified

starting to think i made that up while playing league and thought it was actual english (some characters stack power and get stronger indefinitely). Truly.. disturbing

pedit Do you like any leader vote?

In post 200, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:

Last blurb on spec I promise

In post 206, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:

In post 204, Fidget wrote:

In post 200, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:but the role pm says we have our voice and vote, but glaringly missing from it is that there's nothing about voting out players from the game, which makes me think the leaders probably have control over the lims. So yeah, I strongly suspect read accuracy will matter.

That is never going to happen and if it does i hope they get 186 as well

Never say never but yeah that would be kind of unfun

Another theory I have is they get special PR-like abilities based on what I'm reading about John Connor in the Terminator Wiki lol

In post 141, Loki Dokie wrote:Yeah, I really don’t understand what he’s done that screams town to anyone? I don’t currently sr him but I don’t think he’s done anything at all ai so far.

Firebringer wrote:don't worry fidget i don't suspect u at all. u are outside my radar of scum suspicion.

In post 267, ejjinami wrote:

In post 230, Loki Dokie wrote:I don’t see why you view my asking Andante if she really doesn’t want to be leader, I would unneal her, “performative”?

Because I did that right after Roden made his post saying pretty much that or did you somehow miss that?
Like how do you have this take and completely ignore that?

In post 232, Loki Dokie wrote: Here @ejjanami

Tell me how I wasn’t being “honest” again, I’ll wait.

Mmm
yeah sorry, I did miss that post. It makes sense.

Frankly, I hated the response at first but that it might have been my fault. Let’s talk about it, this wasn’t the only post I got that vibe from, I just used that one as an example.
Your attitude seems performative to me in general.
Besides a rather high self esteem and caring A LOT about what people think of you, I fail to see a personality through your posts.

There is no conclusion about alignment in my reasoning and I’m not trying to do so, so if you’re looking for anything game-progressive, feel free to skip reading this post. Placing it in a spoiler.

Spoiler:

In post 37, Loki Dokie wrote:Why are we voting heals based only off a few posts? I like the reasoning behind the heals but the game just literally started.

In post 39, Loki Dokie wrote:

In post 38, Firebringer wrote:why aren't u healing?

Because I haven’t decided yet obviously. Why are you asking me that when you haven’t either?

In post 70, Loki Dokie wrote:I don’t want anyone to be leader who is campaigning that hard for it. Feel free to sr me for that.

The personality you showed at the beginning of the game and the one later on don’t match up.
beginning of the game- you used short sentences as if playing a person with a no bullshit / straight to the point mindset.

Later on- when I and Andante were thunderdoming- you largely ignored it-

In post 76, Loki Dokie wrote: [...] but I think the most important criteria should be confidence in the player’s alignment and I’m healing my #1 tr unless someone can explain a better reason for that vote.

In post 82, Loki Dokie wrote: Why is it sus to heal my most confident tr?

Do you have a better criteria for whom should be healed?

You seemed happy to talk about things that were related to your confidence (andante being town, you being town, people being wrong for suspecting you)- yet completely ignored doing annoying but helpful chores – like- clearing up the misunderstanding.
I also found it interesting how confident you acted in Andante’s scum-hunting ability… while she was scum-reading me for misunderstandings which you DID notice. So at the same time you were town-reading both me and andante, andante was scum-reading me, you noticed that “the quarrel is dumb“ – yet praised Andante’s scum-hunting ability for reasons you saw were incorrect.

To be clear- I’m not criticizing the behavior, I’m currently not reading it. I’m stating it as a fact.

In post 137, Loki Dokie wrote:First off, I really really really hate the post cap thingie. I love to post spontaneously but when I didn’t read aboit the post cap in Happy Face, I nearly ran out of posts on d1. Why do you hate us so much @Pooky?

you started shitposting after that, which is a good indication that you felt pretty chill despite your town-reads trying to kill each other

What I got from that progression – your own feeling of confidence and maintaining the image of a professional/lofty/above the earthly matters – is what you personally aim for. As long as you feel confident and strong, you will personally feel “good” and feel less motivated to engage despite townies killing each other. You may also intentionally phrase your posts to achieve some sort of effect (like you did at the beginning of the game and when defending Andante)
Again- just a reminder- this is my impression of you. I know it sounds provocative and probably very rude- it’s just the way I phrase things in my head.

What strengthens the view that you may put in a lot of effort to look “strong”, is the way you respond to pressure. Firstly, you tend to react intensely to scum-reads and till now- always attack back, regardless if that person is someone you consider an ally or not.

In post 39, Loki Dokie wrote:

In post 38, Firebringer wrote:why aren't u healing?

Because I haven’t decided yet obviously. Why are you asking me that when you haven’t either?

In post 150, Loki Dokie wrote:

In post 148, NotAHecticAlt wrote:loki frozen and crying in scumchat

This is an extreme reaction to my post since I am nowhere even remotely “frozen”.

Back to thinking you’re scum again.

In post 230, Loki Dokie wrote: I don’t have a read on asia yet and I don’t see why you view my asking Andante if she really doesn’t want to be leader, I would unneal her, “performative”?

Because I did that right after Roden made his post saying pretty much that or did you somehow miss that?
Like how do you have this take and completely ignore that?

^ normally, there is a big difference whether one responds an “ally” or “enemy” and that’s what I’d expect from a player. It makes sense to think of an ally scum-reading you as more of “an misunderstanding” and of an enemy as “an attack”.

I don’t get that from your posts.

“or did you

somehow

miss that? Like how do you have this take

and completely ignore that

?”

imo, that’s not an attitude of a person trying to “help an ally get on the right track”
You respond to all scum-reads as to “personal attacks”.

Again, I’m not judging. This is just an observation. It felt like either your ego was hurt because of the scum-read (sorry in that case, and sorry for phrasing it that way) – to the point where the identity of the one who criticized you didn’t matter (that would support the theory that appearance matters A LOT to you)
ooooor that you don’t consider me an “ally” despite me being a town-read and were just trying to pressure me into backing off. (again, being performative for a different reason)

I’m currently putting off determining which conclusion is correct.

If you want me to phrase it differently- I got the impression that you are verbally deceptive, you care a lot about your image and put in effort to maintain that, not necessarily as a way to push an agenda, just as a way to feel good about yourself. Usually it’s harder to read players when they’re playing a role regardless of alignment
Frankly speaking I feel like if this continues, we may clash eventually regardless of alignment. That’s why, if you’re able to deal with being imperfect and controlling your tone less, it would surely help me read you.
If not- then not.

Frankly, I don’t know why I’m ever saying that. Askign a player to change their playstyle has never worked so far and I’d be dumb to assume that it will.
let me just say that I just don’t like this lol
And probably shut up

(you don’t have to respond to this post btw. This is MY impression. It’s not about alignment. Frankly, I may be kinda glad if you do ignore it cuz I feel like I might just be getting into a giant fight and I’m not really up to that)
(just you know, what I wrote is neutral to me. Frankly speaking if I were to describe myself as a person, it would look similarly illogical xd … so yeah…)

In post 238, Andante wrote:

In post 188, Radical Rat wrote:Also, I thought the post cap being 150 per phase was high enough as to be largely inconsequential, but at the rate some of you are going... Yikes.

yeah... like 150 is a max, and it feels like people are doing everything in their power to ensure they hit 150.. like people, SLOW DOWN please, this game doubled in size overnight...

In post 196, Radical Rat wrote:If you thought I'd have super committed and confident reads a few hours into the game, then well. This probably won't be the last time I disappoint you

I think you're good thus far!! lol I mean, half the table is doing nothing, so then options for leaders are smaller.. and uhh NAHA is spamming, and yeah.. that's about all there is, so I think what you have is great!

<snip>

Meh that's good enough for now, I'm like getting sick IRL, it's great, but yeah I had a partner read I don't remember who, it was fidget and someone... ahhh should've just written it down. whelp yeah.

HEAL: Radical Rat
HEAL: ejjinami

I think those 2 are good to heal though

In post 188, Radical Rat wrote:Also, I thought the post cap being 150 per phase was high enough as to be largely inconsequential, but at the rate some of you are going... Yikes.

I stand by my Andante heal for now, she's overthinking things a bit, but looks plenty Town to me. Firebringer's point that he'd be electing her as scum is valid, but if scum wants to help elect a Townie as leader, I'm sure not gonna be the one to stop them.

I think Hectic is probably Town. Which is to say that the alt that ISN'T Hectic must not be. Really, just not a fan of all the grandstanding, feels like a spicy mix of LAMIST and Too Scummy To Be Scum, so they're off my list of viable leaders.

Firebringer I think is genuinely Town here, though largely gut at this point. Wouldn't want him as leader though, because while I do enjoy a good shitpost every now and then... I'd rather someone more reliable take the reins.

Ejj I could go either way on. Leaning Town for now.

Everyone else.... No terribly strong opinions on. Mildly sus of Penguin, but that's just like. A vague feeling, less than even gut.

In post 262, Gamma Emerald wrote:I am superbly lost this game
HEAL: no one
I still have certain mech thoughts but reads-wise I feel like I am behind

In post 306, Firebringer wrote:elim this dirty cat liar

In post 299, Firebringer wrote:PenguinPower - The grifter. Would sell five people the same bridge. That he has no rights to sell.
Shoshin - The illusionist Makes you think she isn't here even when her name is clearly in the player list.
Ejjinami - The brains of the operation. Will play 3d chess all around you while you are playing 1d chess.

In post 313, ejjinami wrote:The game state is worrying me a bit.
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In post 314, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:

In post 238, Andante wrote:

In post 188, Radical Rat wrote:Also, I thought the post cap being 150 per phase was high enough as to be largely inconsequential, but at the rate some of you are going... Yikes.

yeah... like 150 is a max, and it feels like people are doing everything in their power to ensure they hit 150.. like people, SLOW DOWN please, this game doubled in size overnight...

In post 196, Radical Rat wrote:If you thought I'd have super committed and confident reads a few hours into the game, then well. This probably won't be the last time I disappoint you

I think you're good thus far!! lol I mean, half the table is doing nothing, so then options for leaders are smaller.. and uhh NAHA is spamming, and yeah.. that's about all there is, so I think what you have is great!

<snip>

Meh that's good enough for now, I'm like getting sick IRL, it's great, but yeah I had a partner read I don't remember who, it was fidget and someone... ahhh should've just written it down. whelp yeah.

HEAL: Radical Rat
HEAL: ejjinami

I think those 2 are good to heal though

What? What has Radical Rat done so far this game that's really pushed the game forward and made them town enough for one of your two heals?

In post 271, Aisa wrote:Could I ask you to take your post one step further though? "NotHectic does not seem genuine and I cannot explain why" is not exactly a committal statement. Can you try to explain what about it comes off as not genuine?