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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:28 am
by camn
(Tbh, I figured it was just a flavor modifier... like, the ability only works on characters with money or something else I didn't think too long about)

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:30 am
by Cerulean
You legit can't be. Reading the game.

So camn did you and your partner not kill us because you figured surely the doc protected the vig?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:30 am
by The Baltimore Sun
Day 5, Votecount 2
camn (1) - Shaft

Not voting (6) :
Cerulean, Benmage, JasonT1981, camn, Deasvail, kuribo

  • With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
  • Deadline is on 9th of April at 11:59am GMT
  • Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-04-09 19:59:28)
  • Benmage is V/la


Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:31 am
by kuribo
Oh fuck it all makes sense

Ill elaborate in the neighborhood

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:49 am
by camn
Ha. I looked it up.
I can see, and agree with, the rationale for withholding doc targets- given he can only target a player once!

@cerulean- if you really think I am skimming AS SCUM, to the point where I overlook a detail of a powerrole claim.... then I think your logic has failed you.
Insult me all you want, but please try and look for actual scum motivation. If you are town.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:58 am
by Cerulean
Wha wha! Scum skim all the time because they already know who the scum are.

Just so you know I can find scum motivation in all your questions since day start and alot of your play. So sorry.

As far as the if were town qualification..child please. I'd like the name of your dealer cuz the crack your smoking is clearly better than mine.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:06 am
by camn
ok. go ahead and lynch then.

FOR THE RECORD:

How >I< think this should have gone:

camn: hey kise- what were your targets?
kise: Im not telling. That would be suboptimal, since I can only target everyone once.
camn: OH! Very well then.


How it really went:

camn: hey kise- what were your targets?
Cerulean: OMG someone is retarded! >add snarky insults here<
kuribo: fuck slut asshole cunt
camn: Oh.



Given that the second scenario has overwhelmingly been the tone of the game, I guess I shouldnt have been surprised.

Now, back to reality- Cerulean- Sure, scum skim because they know who the scum are. BUT THEY PAY ATTENTION TO POWER CLAIMS. Do you not agree? Are you saying that scum generally dont analyze the most powerful roles against them?

Meanwhile, I certainly have blown off chunks of this game because I am busy and they are boring... but mostly I am following. I just generally blow off the DETAILS of PR claims until endgame, because I have found they dont help me catch scum.
How people behave? Who they target? That helps me.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:10 am
by Cerulean
But now camn since you're halfway to joining the world of the living, the real question is. Is kise really the town doc he claims to be?

As far as your DVD question, he's still not answering that but join me on a ride. A Bg dies if his target is selected, yes? So clearly that means a 1 shot getsonly one shot to target. Are you with me now?

As far as the other PR claim faking their targets, namely us. You do realize our kill flavor is murdered right? Good. So, our targets are absolutely unfakable.

Now that that silliness is done, can we move on to you know scumhunting.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:12 am
by camn
Shaft wrote:camn did you say you wanted to fool mafia into thinking you were the vig so they'd kill you?

Wanted is a big word.
While kuribo was throwing around accusations, I certainly encouraged it a little bit to that very end- to draw attention away from the real vig. (who I thought was Benmage, incidentally)

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:14 am
by Cerulean
Why did you think Benmage was the vig?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:17 am
by Cerulean
Camn the kise doctor issue has been discussed several times, the modification is why people have given him a town read. You can't fault Mr for not knowing that you jet decided to not read all those posts about his limitation. Your questions at start of.day were extremely scum motivated from my point if view.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:24 am
by Shaft
@Cerulean, camn-Ben?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:26 am
by camn
Cerulean wrote:But now camn since you're halfway to joining the world of the living, the real question is. Is kise really the town doc he claims to be?

As far as your DVD question, he's still not answering that but join me on a ride. A Bg dies if his target is selected, yes? So clearly that means a 1 shot getsonly one shot to target. Are you with me now?

As far as the other PR claim faking their targets, namely us. You do realize our kill flavor is murdered right? Good. So, our targets are absolutely unfakable.

Now that that silliness is done, can we move on to you know scumhunting.


I believe kise right now, and I am no longer interested in his targets.

I DO understand about the bodyguard.
But, I am not sure I believe DV's claim.
It seems to me optimal town-claim is to WITHHOLD the one-shot status.
BUT, I certainly think that a TOWNIE might fake-claim a limited shot so as to lessen the chance of nightkill.
AND I think if DV's claim is true- then the ONLY town response to my question is: "I have not targeted anyone." Whereas scum might be inclined to make something up.

IN re: YOUR claims-- I was kind of interested in what happened LAST night.. but mostly in the context of a doc-save. At this point I dont care.

Inre: Ben- he was giving me vibes early on.. like he was protecting me during the time that kuribo was calling me a SK- just what I would do as a Vig. plus this:
Benmage wrote:Hmm. Nice shot camn,....
Classic Vig-post.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:29 am
by Cerulean
camn wrote:
Benmage wrote:Kise, why would you think your role meant SK over vig?

Because it is a 1-shot protection of his scumbuddies from an SK...


Camn. When you made this post, did you understand the limitations of kises. Claimed role?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:39 am
by Cerulean
Also what's with the Lynch me then attitude. When you were town in ladies night and were suspected you were like "you don't have the balls to Lynch me" not Lynch me then that I remember

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:41 am
by Cerulean
Shaft wrote:@Cerulean, camn-Ben?

X

What are your thoughts on Jason
?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:44 am
by camn
Hmmm- I am re-reading to try and get a grip... I see now the posts where the meaning of expensive is brought up. I actually vaugely remember reading them at the time, and not caring :) I think I was pretty suspicious that Kise was scum at that time, and was blowing off his claim.
My bad!

Re my attitude?
I am tired of the insults and cursing.
If you think I am scum, lynch me.

If you want to waste time grinding on me because I am a ditz.. go ahead, but at least acknowledge I am town, so we can move on.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:53 am
by Shaft
Cerulean wrote:
Shaft wrote:@Cerulean, camn-Ben?

X

What are your thoughts on Jason
?

lol

Lurked like shit in Harry potter; was town. No one said shit about him when I asked why he wasn't getting attention. Don't care about him now.

kuribo wrote:That DV quote is blatantly out of context. Even I can see that and I'm an idiot.

I'm still a bit confused about what DV meant tho. An explanation would be helpful from him.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:55 am
by Cerulean
Camn I never insulted you. Telling you to serpent harder is not an insult, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. I'm quit a Ritz myself.

I'm grinding on you, or whatever, because you're in the pool of people I don't know about. I want to believe your town and if I could just feel better about that I could direct my attention to the other three in my suspect pool.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:02 am
by Cerulean
And by serpent I mean derp

And Ritz is ditz

Gods I hope a new modem fixes things.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:08 am
by Benmage
Anyone in the neighborhood...

DV should be shotless... anyone worth 2 cents should know this. I hope he's claimed as much to keep his claim going. But I think it is fake. I think the manner in which he wanted to claim in the neighborhood, given the information I have sounded scummy. Like someone said before, he felt is fakeclaim was solid and wanted to ride it. I refuse to believe no scum is fake claiming. Scum love to get intricate with their roles.

I don't see where his play could possibly be town confirming. I don't see his role as town confirming (even the fakeclaim he has, which is likely just that a fakeclaim)

If by chance DV still has his 1-SHOT BG, which how could a BG be more than 1-shot, you can't use a BG again if it works lololol so clearly he must have used it, because if he didn't on someone even like Zdenek... well then G-G scum confirmed.

So yeah, this is who I am most confident given any pool of possible remaining scum.

unvote vote Zdenek


Kuribo, I may have called you derp, and useless... but I've stopped considering you scum for sometime. No matter which way I think about DV must be scum.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:11 am
by Benmage
^Back to why he clearly must have used.. He knows scum have daytalk due to his role?!??!?!? He would want to die??!?!? Shit I'd probably ask myself to be lynched D1, or at least after he saw what looked like a vig/SK claim it to die.

For realz.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:11 am
by Benmage
Goddamn i am in another world...

unvote vote DV

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:13 am
by kuribo
Camn isn't sick of the insults.

I've been pretty civil for at least one or two game days and she lollygagged rather than post in a newly civil environment. Then the attention is on her in the first time in like forever, and she's all sick of the insults.

She didn't care who I was raging at when it wasn't her. She was fine to watch Ben and BT and Kise and Nos take heat.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:18 am
by Benmage
^While accurate.. and I don't get how she voted me yesterday, nor why she isn't continuing today (I guess it isn't popular).. and that stains her for sure..

I just at the moment still have a tough time swallowing the interaction with abstas as fake... ergjsfjagdjs I guess it was so early in the game...zzzz I'm going to mind explode!

Why is DV so town for you neighborhood??