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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:29 am
by ZZZX
ooba wrote:
ZZZX wrote:i agree about many points you show here.

but for now i want to keep him alive. until either zar flips scum or we flip one scum and we can flip you both (At that case your sacrifice will be for the glory of the town m8)

p-edit : :P

If you respect my points and my case, and still want to try to lynch scum while keeping MS alive - lynch Mollie, not Zar.

mollie is later. zar is now.

you see my team believe mollie to be town. i will give them respect by delaying mollies death until we confirm the more-likely-scum person

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:29 am
by Metal Sonic
ooba wrote:Mine boil down to what can only be described a panic attack to Nacho's list that had two scum leading the list.


your case fell down :)


as long as i take away my emotional side to this game, I can 1:1 you extremely easily

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:30 am
by ZZZX
ooba wrote:Mine boil down to what can only be described a panic attack to Nacho's list that had two scum leading the list.

the reason why your case fell down tbh in my opinion was the fact that sonic has almost all the game gave his opinion that a vengeful way is stubid. it makes sense to try to talk nacho out. it felt weird even then but not weird enough to drop my town read built for 5 days

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:33 am
by ooba
Town is going to win this game since I can't be night killed. But @ZZZX: your actions might have delayed it by about 2-3 days.

I will not join a Zar wagon.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:34 am
by ZZZX
ooba wrote:Town is going to win this game since I can't be night killed. But @ZZZX: your actions might have delayed it by about 2-3 days.

I will not join a Zar wagon.

if you know we WILL win then what the fuck are you losing is you followed me who is town.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:37 am
by ooba
ZZZX wrote:
ooba wrote:Town is going to win this game since I can't be night killed. But @ZZZX: your actions might have delayed it by about 2-3 days.

I will not join a Zar wagon.

if you know we WILL win then what the fuck are you losing is you followed me who is town.

That works both ways.

You refuse to follow me. You insult me by asking me to 'Shut up' when I put up counterarguments.

I will still be here when you eat humble crow from a couple of town mislynches. Don't expect to me jump into said mislynches though.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:39 am
by ZZZX
ooba wrote:
ZZZX wrote:
ooba wrote:Town is going to win this game since I can't be night killed. But @ZZZX: your actions might have delayed it by about 2-3 days.

I will not join a Zar wagon.

if you know we WILL win then what the fuck are you losing is you followed me who is town.

That works both ways.

You refuse to follow me. You insult me by asking me to 'Shut up' when I put up counterarguments.

I will still be here when you eat humble crow from a couple of town mislynches. Don't expect to me jump into said mislynches though.

Whatever floats your goat then. Its up2you to do what you want to do. The thing I learned in mafia from a few years is to push for what i believe in.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:41 am
by ooba
ZZZX wrote:Whatever floats your goat then. Its up2you to do what you want to do. The thing I learned in mafia from a few years is to push for what i believe in.

Likewise.

You go do whatever it is you think you have to do.

"The scum team is {MS, Mollie} with a very slight chance of {MS, ABR}" - {D5, ooba}

I'm out of this thread for the foreseeable future.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:42 am
by ZZZX
ooba link me most recent town and scum game

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:45 am
by Metal Sonic
pirate mollie wrote:
Metal Sonic wrote: <snip>

Did I miss anyone? nop!


erm, me?


Mollie!
: you are like a mum to me and I always luved you! This is a special dedication post just for you because I wanted you to feel how lost I was when you responded to every1 except me!!! you ignored my reach outs (even though they were small) so I was angry and afraid. When I was writing that every1 dedicated post I calmed down a bit after I slept for a sunday nap because I was upset and angry with myself for hurting you and hurting nacho. Nacho reached out to me and gave me love but you didn't! so I was pretty annoyed and wanted your attention that you didn't give! I am going to hide this dedication here after many long pages so that you will see it on your read through and it will be a nice surprise! because I am going to do the right thing and what you did not give me I forgive you and I will walk out of the pain myself and take your hand.

and I am going to hug you like I wanted you to do to me when it was your pain.

<3

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:46 am
by ooba

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:47 am
by wgeurts
STAHP
I HAVE AN IDEA THAT WILL PLEASE ALL (BESIDES SCUM)
WAIT FOR ME TO TYPE ON PHONE
ZZZX'S I'VE ALSO FOUND FLAWS IN YOUR PLAN

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:48 am
by Metal Sonic
ZZZX wrote:ooba link me most recent town and scum game


I link for you.


remember that meta is not as useful for team mafia because every1 cares about team mafia and less about other games

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=60869 <------ ooba scum game that he WANTS US to see

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=60046 <------- ooba mason town game with me

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=59399 <-------- ooba mason town game with scum-me

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:49 am
by Metal Sonic


ooba

link relevant meta with me

FFX and Capcom

why didn't you?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:53 am
by Metal Sonic
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p6363536 <-------- caught 0 scum. nope, didn't catch me either!

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p6344274 <-------- big version, caught 1 scum and caught SK

let me take this opportunity to shower all over your reads

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:53 am
by Metal Sonic
ok. i am gloating. that is a bad thing. sorry.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:04 am
by Metal Sonic
upon reflection that game was miles apart from this! 0 scumhunting, only snide remarks and retarded comments!

that is why I tell you why that meta is useless, especially in team mafia

I have done much more in this game than any game I have been in.

the content I have produced in this game is far more than any other player

and i want ABR/ZZZX/Me to get another scummie. on top of the team mafia one.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:08 am
by wgeurts
ZZZX, your plan has a huge flaw. If we let Ooba and Metal Sonic live to a lylo with some chosen confirmed town it's a 50% ball gamble. It's also really risky to sort them later as there is the chance they are both town, they need to be sorted ASAP.

So, I've been cycling 13km from school giving me some time to think. I've come up with a plan based off the two current plans:
1. Ooba's lynch Metal then ABR/Mollie
2. Nacho's plan
I also formed it keeping this in mind: I know I'm town and I believe that ZZZX is. If he's scum I'll have a deep respect for him when he wins, as he will then win. I'll probably never trust the guy again but hey :]
Us two should form a town bloc, a new one as the last one has shattered. Just the two of us, we need full trust that we both are town. I hope ZZZX can trust me, he's the only one I can.

Then we take the following lynch order:

1 - Metal Sonic: We need to ooba and Metal sooner rather than later. All the actions we take after that are based off his flip. Metal, you haven't played like crap this game. You've had a good logical mind and are more... pleasant to play with then others. I made a deal to lynch you, so if you're town *shrug*. If you're scum you've also done a good attempt at flailing to make people get off you. Your play has been good regardless which alignment you are.

2 - If Metal flips town we lynch greyICE. If metal's town we need to go back to the nacho plan, we've abandoned it too easily.
We shouldn't yet lynch ooba, he may still be town. So we'll leave him to a lylo with me and ZZZX, then we'll win knowing he's scum.

If Metal flips scum ooba gains a lot of town cred, however he won't join the Me-ZZZX town bloc. Ooba's been right then so we proceed to lynch Mollie, his next suspect.

3 - If metal was town and ICE flips scum we lynch zar, holding true to the nacho plan.
If ICE flips town we kill her vengeful: ABR. If ABR is scum he's way too powerful and persuasive to live in a LYLO, we need this slot sorted ASAP. Also following the vengeful is staying true to nacho.

If metal flipped scum and we lynch mollie, if she flips scum... WE WIN!
If she flips town we lynch ABR, if he flips town we lynch Zar and finally ooba. Me and ZZZX are town so honestly a single scum lynch now means we will win this for the town.

4 - If ICE flipped scum but Zar flipped town then we lynch ABR, then mollie. Once again, me and ZZZX will win any LYLO for town.

If metal, abr and mollie flip town (How likely is this?) then we're in LYLO with Me, ZZZX, ICE, Ooba and Zar. Here me and ZZZX will discuss everything as we'll know the scum will want to lynch that one other town as me and ZZZX won't lynch each other. We need one scum lynch and we've one here. Honestly this is a really unlikely situation as there's probably one scum in Mollie/ABR/Metal.

Oh, I also control ooba's vote it metal flips town. So I will FORCE nacho's plan.

ZZZX, please trust me.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:10 am
by wgeurts
Remember, the me-ZZZX town bloc would only need 1 scum lynch to win. We'd then lynch the rest one by one until a lylo where we'd know the final scum.

Metal, even if you're town. Do you see the logic in my plan?

As for ABR and ICE, they've gone horribly quiet.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:17 am
by ZZZX
wgeurts wrote:Remember, the me-ZZZX town bloc would only need 1 scum lynch to win. We'd then lynch the rest one by one until a lylo where we'd know the final scum.

Metal, even if you're town. Do you see the logic in my plan?

As for ABR and ICE, they've gone horribly quiet.

i dont see how you dont go for ooba if metal flips town. thats a critical flaw.

i dont keep them until lylo, i keep them just before lylo

other than that its basically the same exact thing i have said... right?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:18 am
by ZZZX
wgeurts wrote:If metal, abr and mollie flip town (How likely is this?)

reaaaaly likely

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:19 am
by Metal Sonic
wgeurts wrote:I made a deal to lynch you, so if you're town *shrug*.


its ok. you got tricked into a bad deal.

Wgeurts -
"If MS flips town today, my vote is yours for D6. Even if I'm scum with GreyIce - I will sheep you if you vote GreyIce. I will sheep you - even if you vote me. This is my promise to you"


If we delay my lynch like ZZZX plan, you can get out of the ooba deal. because he said "today". and he will only give you his vote for "d6". not forever.

you are willing to risk one of the old townblock's life for a untrustable player's vote. for one day. lol.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:19 am
by ZZZX
Metal I wana follow your plan because i trust you and if you allow me to lynch you if you were town I will follow your instructions word by word btw.

I want to trust you so hard and everyone in this game wants me not to., it hurts my heart

otherwise i need to think

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:20 am
by ZZZX
wge i read u as leaning town but not town enough to trust 100% tbh

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:20 am
by Metal Sonic
wgeurts wrote:2 - If Metal flips town we lynch greyICE. If metal's town we need to go back to the nacho plan, we've abandoned it too easily.
We shouldn't yet lynch ooba, he may still be town. So we'll leave him to a lylo with me and ZZZX, then we'll win knowing he's scum.


no baby

after i flip town

you kill ooba as per my vengeful

why is ooba more town than greyice now? what is going on in your head