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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:49 pm
by Iconeum
In post 2998, Menalque wrote:I think you’ve been pushing me as scum since day opened with like anything you can get
it's partly true sure, minus the me being scum part

There's been ZERO scum lynches

There's 3 scum in 6 players

I honestly believe every single thing I've pushed you on today, and you know what? If gamma turns out to be conftown then I will SERIOUSLY doubt my scumread on you

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:50 pm
by Menalque
In post 2556, Iconeum wrote:Menl is openwolfing here wtf
In post 2562, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2536, Menalque wrote:It’s slightly WIFOM but I genuinely think scum!him is better than this entrance today
I'm calling shenanigans on this

But ok I'll use the same logic

Town menal does not oppose
Mass claim here
In post 2564, Datisi wrote:Where???? Is Mena??? Opossing mass claim????
In post 2567, Datisi wrote:Like I'm the only one saying "maybe we shouldn't massclaim today"
Like I don’t think town you makes this series of posts when I literally was never opposing mass

But I do think scum!you could make them if you thought you wouldn’t be able to get me to vote datisi and I was pushing back on gamma who was your set mislynch

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:50 pm
by Iconeum
In post 2999, Menalque wrote:What do you want me to think
If ur town, I want you to solve this game

If gamma is town, then I think you calling him town (you know what I mean) at the beginning of the day is town!indicative of you

because scum would definitely have gamma as their winning lynch today, and not start towncalling him

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:51 pm
by Menalque
YOU PUSHED ME FOR OPPOSING MASS CLAIM WHEN IT’S LITERALLY EVIDENT FROM READING MY POSTS TODAY AT ALL THAT I NEVER DID AND YOU’RE SAYING YOU STAND BY THAT

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:51 pm
by Menalque
In post 3002, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2999, Menalque wrote:What do you want me to think
If ur town, I want you to solve this game

If gamma is town, then I think you calling him town (you know what I mean) at the beginning of the day is town!indicative of you

because scum would definitely have gamma as their winning lynch today, and not start towncalling him
Yes no fucking shit

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:52 pm
by Iconeum
In post 3001, Menalque wrote:Like I don’t think town you makes this series of posts when I literally was never opposing massBut I do think scum!you could make them if you thought you wouldn’t be able to get me to vote datisi and I was pushing back on gamma who was your set mislynch
try and follow me here

I came into today KNOWING 50% of you guys are scum

Gamma was my and most players TOP scumread coming into today

You start defending him

I scumread you for trying to protect your buddy and start working on winning the game instead of having to deal with a buss on gamma

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:52 pm
by Menalque
And you literally came in today with some post about how gamma was like locked as the lynch

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:53 pm
by Menalque
Why would I not just bus gamma there

I don’t think this makes any sense fypov

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:53 pm
by Iconeum
In post 3003, Menalque wrote:YOU PUSHED ME FOR OPPOSING MASS CLAIM WHEN IT’S LITERALLY EVIDENT FROM READING MY POSTS TODAY AT ALL THAT I NEVER DID AND YOU’RE SAYING YOU STAND BY THAT
oh hell no

I believed it when I wrote it, but datisi made it clear that I was mistaken wrt to you opposing massclaim (it was only opposing popcorn).

My main issue with you was 'openwolfing' by defending gamma

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:54 pm
by Iconeum
In post 3007, Menalque wrote:Why would I not just bus gamma there

I don’t think this makes any sense fypov
Because you could potentially win the game today

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:54 pm
by Menalque
Well not doesn’t make any sense I suppose I can see that

But I feel like you’re intentionally taking less likely scenarios and basing your reads around them and I doubt that’s coming from town you

Like the far more solid play is to hardbus gamma there and then push probably you in 5p there

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:55 pm
by Menalque
It’s not worth going for the insta win if you’re setting a loss by burning all your towncred if it goes bad

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:55 pm
by Menalque
In post 3008, Iconeum wrote:
In post 3003, Menalque wrote:YOU PUSHED ME FOR OPPOSING MASS CLAIM WHEN IT’S LITERALLY EVIDENT FROM READING MY POSTS TODAY AT ALL THAT I NEVER DID AND YOU’RE SAYING YOU STAND BY THAT
oh hell no

I believed it when I wrote it, but datisi made it clear that I was mistaken wrt to you opposing massclaim (it was only opposing popcorn).

My main issue with you was 'openwolfing' by defending gamma
what are you standing by then

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:55 pm
by Iconeum
In post 3010, Menalque wrote:Like the far more solid play is to hardbus gamma there and then push probably you in 5p there
Doesn't mean scum!you isn't gonna try by soft defending gamma and see what happens

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:55 pm
by Menalque
Also talk me through why it was noteworthyily suspicious that datisi and I were still alive

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:56 pm
by Iconeum
In post 3012, Menalque wrote:what are you standing by then
that I believed every single word I wrote when I wrote it

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:56 pm
by Iconeum
In post 3014, Menalque wrote:Also talk me through why it was noteworthyily suspicious that datisi and I were still alive
again?

sure

I think if both of you are town, either of you would have been NK'd already

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:57 pm
by Menalque
In post 3013, Iconeum wrote:
In post 3010, Menalque wrote:Like the far more solid play is to hardbus gamma there and then push probably you in 5p there
Doesn't mean scum!you isn't gonna try by soft defending gamma and see what happens
Literally my scum play is all about doing the fundamentals right and going for the win

Generally, that means not bussing but if I’m in a situation where I know I’m TR enough to probably get the win so long as I don’t have awful associations with flipped scum, I would bus to the ever living fuck

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:57 pm
by Iconeum
and unless it's literally DW/alim/amrun, I was right about that

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:58 pm
by Iconeum
(i'm just assuming at this point that gamma is the gun, based on DW's play around the claim)

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:58 pm
by Menalque
In post 3016, Iconeum wrote:
In post 3014, Menalque wrote:Also talk me through why it was noteworthyily suspicious that datisi and I were still alive
again?

sure

I think if both of you are town, either of you would have been NK'd already
Right why

What makes me or datisi a better nk than any of pret/sally/AFF/GL

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:58 pm
by Menalque
I don’t understand this game if gamma isn’t the gun and frankly it’s fucked

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:59 pm
by Menalque
Like I initially wondered if the gambit was a big brain play to bait scum into a bad CC but keeping it up here is just trolling and I think actively lowering town win EV

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:00 pm
by Iconeum
Because either of you are extremely capable of solving this game as far as I'm concerned, and scum would be right in fearkilling you earlier despite having bad reads at that time, because of your potential

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:00 pm
by Iconeum
In post 3022, Menalque wrote:Like I initially wondered if the gambit was a big brain play to bait scum into a bad CC but keeping it up here is just trolling and I think actively lowering town win EV
unless it comes from an afk slot