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In post 2999, Pink Ball wrote:Ok

Yeah, you can't explain why
GROUP THINK
YUH

In post 2992, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:In no way should Starbuck be a Town read nor do I understand how they are a townread.
Cake scum read them.

@Farside I want your full read on Starbuck in full detail.

No.

You haven't present a case on anyone so bite me.

Still waiting for suggestions for the quiz for tonight from players.
Also I would like to discuss who is going to give to which player for chain. PB if I give it to you next who would you give the chain to?

In post 2978, Pink Ball wrote:Spring first then. Dunn is my least scumread out of the three

What happened to your midway scum read?

How many players does the quiz need?

In post 2983, Dunnstral wrote:'Sabotage Checker' sounds like it checks to see if mafia chose to fail the quiz or not externally, rather than check an individual person. or am i on the wrong track?
It does look like he was softing something with Farside that from my point of view at the time made no sense at all

I'm not mafia so here are the possibilities:

1) Spring is mafia
2) Starbuck is mafia and either went for a wifom play or was forced to vote pass
3) Outside interference

What was the mafia reward for failing the quiz?

@Mod What happens if we lynch one of the 3 players in the list today? And can mafia choose to nokill tonight?

The reward is the player who is chain leader would not be BP for the night.

EBWOP: 3 players needed for the quiz. I am suggesting PB and unwnd currently.

In post 3002, farside22 wrote:Still waiting for suggestions for the quiz for tonight from players.
Also I would like to discuss who is going to give to which player for chain. PB if I give it to you next who would you give the chain to?

Unwnd + Farside + 1 to 2 others, don't put Starbuck back on the team.

In post 3005, farside22 wrote:The reward is the player who is chain leader would not be BP for the night.

That's pretty minor, to be honest

In post 2951, Starbuck wrote:

In post 2947, midwaybear wrote:

In post 2946, Starbuck wrote:that the quiz passed last night thus giving me, farside, and Unwnd FOR REAL conftown status?

FALSE
scum can pass the quiz

No, they wouldn't have given what they would have won.

In post 3000, midwaybear wrote:

In post 2999, Pink Ball wrote:Ok

Yeah, you can't explain why
GROUP THINK
YUH

No, I said ok because you said it was a mistake and I'll take it like that.

Fuck off with the sass dude

yeah, but you still feel prey to group think because you agreed with dunnstral in the first place.
appreciate you taking me in good faith though

In post 3010, midwaybear wrote:yeah, but you still feel prey to group think because you agreed with dunnstral in the first place.
appreciate you taking me in good faith though

I'm not group thinking because I've been calling you scum since forever and yes everything I see coming from you seems like scum in the first place because yes it's confbias, you're right. Like my agreement with Dunn was because I'm not reading you with much detail anymore 'cause I'm already sold on you being scum and the only thing that could convince me otherwise is flips. Also wanted to agree with Dunn because I want to townread him.

So yeah sorry for the confbias, sorry for not reevaluating you, but it would take a big fucking twist to do so

In post 2990, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:

In post 2952, unwnd wrote:I'm happy that the quiz passed but I'm just going to say that I proxy'd someone in the quiz last night so either

1) It was right
2) They were passing anyways

Is one of their names Farside or Starbuck by any chance?

@Unwnd - If you're one shot, why are you holding back who you proxied? Just say you proxied me and fucked me over on a chance to prove myself because here goes TSE a-fucking-gain about how I'm scum. And the one way that I, as a god damn VT, could prove myself was in the quiz. So if after the dismal bullshit of N1 and allllllllllll the crap from spring, you proxied me and took that away, I'm mad at you. I'm still town reading the fuck out of you, but I'm royally pissed.

This is my mad face.

In post 3006, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 3002, farside22 wrote:Still waiting for suggestions for the quiz for tonight from players.
Also I would like to discuss who is going to give to which player for chain. PB if I give it to you next who would you give the chain to?

Unwnd + Farside + 1 to 2 others, don't put Starbuck back on the team.

Fucking called it

Why are you role claiming?

In post 3007, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 3005, farside22 wrote:The reward is the player who is chain leader would not be BP for the night.

That's pretty minor, to be honest

In post 3008, midwaybear wrote:

In post 2951, Starbuck wrote:

In post 2947, midwaybear wrote:

In post 2946, Starbuck wrote:that the quiz passed last night thus giving me, farside, and Unwnd FOR REAL conftown status?

FALSE
scum can pass the quiz

No, they wouldn't have given what they would have won.

Why did you say what you said in 2951 if the reward is as outlined in 3005?

Why are you certain that it was you I proxied? Or perhaps, why it matters that I haven't said? The fact of the matter is one of you was proxied and there's nothing to confirm what it means.

Again, if you're town, then I did nothing. If you're scum? You're going to say you passed the quiz anyways. The only benefit recieved possibly is that if either of you are scum, then it alllowed us a beneficiary in the process.

I don't know why you're worried about TSE so much. I don't think he holds much power. If I'm sitting with the idea that all town passed quiz 2 then that makes it between Spring/Dunn. I think what should happen is that one of them gets hurt and the other gets put down the chain. I'm not the leader here but that's what I do; in terms of my preferences I say put Dunn down the chain and put Spring up for kill.

In post 3001, farside22 wrote:

In post 2992, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:In no way should Starbuck be a Town read nor do I understand how they are a townread.
Cake scum read them.

@Farside I want your full read on Starbuck in full detail.

No.

You haven't present a case on anyone so bite me.

Then as far as I’m concerned your scum with Starbuck and if Starbuck flips Scum I’m death tunnelling you.
Just so you know.

Pink Ball


NDmath
TrueSoulEnergy
midwaybear



These are all the people who have run quizzes who are alive.

Red = On quiz 1, failed
Orange = Special case, on Quiz 1 that failed but Passed Quiz 2
Green = On Quiz 2, passed
Blue = Negative utility, fails the quiz

I think right now there is a clear divide set here. I know what I said earlier just now but thinking about it I'd like to see our hurts go towards people who have not taken the quiz. Why? Because those are people we can't chain. We need to use our hurt here to see what scum does. Put up people who you're tinfoiling and see what comes of it. It evens out anyways. Best way I'd put it is the paranoia zone. Then we need to factor in the quiz as well. Right now you have 5 people who haven't taken the quiz. 3 of them will be "saved". 2 of them will be down the chain.

And here's the best scenario I can look at:



Reasoning in next post.

So I think Beeboy should be on the hurt for slight paranoia. As the numbers go down and I see townflips, I'm not really inclined to believe I just really know what's going on. I still think Beeboy is mostly(?) fine but where we put him in this position is that scum either sacs the negative utility for us or they prove a tell elsewhere. I've seen TSE be a very controversial topic as well despite somehow getting the chain everytime. He was also pivotal in getting Titus lynched.

In post 3019, unwnd wrote:So I think Beeboy should be on the hurt for slight paranoia. As the numbers go down and I see townflips, I'm not really inclined to believe I just really know what's going on. I still think Beeboy is mostly(?) fine but where we put him in this position is that scum either sacs the negative utility for us or they prove a tell elsewhere. I've seen TSE be a very controversial topic as well despite somehow getting the chain everytime. He was also pivotal in getting Titus lynched.

I mean I did say Midway was an option but majority wanted Titus gone.

Also notice how both ABR and Cake both scum read Starbuck and both are dead.
Hmm.

I don't really want Spring on the kill because I think most people want to lynch her and she dies anyway. As I see it, I think Dunn/Spring as the final 2 would be fine. They need to be sorted out regarldess. I want to use Hurt in a more efficient way instead of doubling what people are saying.

That being said, With Dunn/Spring being at the bottom 2 that leaves Pink Ball, Midwaybear, and NDmath for the quiz. I say we go with this because the more people that do the quiz? The better. It tests to see what happens. I'm starting to think the quiz is a resource more than an efficient tell for things, therefore I think our best odds rely in what happens with the chain. The hurt thing is pretty cool too.

Explain to me how people actually Town read Starbuck.

Hurt: Person We Lynch, Person who gets vest, Me

I am the only one who should die, that benefits town to die and scum won't just abstain their shot.
Idk