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if you are town making 2997 i just have no idea what the hell

Okay you're scumhunting independently go snipe hunt I'll leave you alone

yeah dude it was obviously a scumclaim by saying "the game is over [with my flip]" and not a way of me saying "infinity is town and her not voting me isn't +scum"

In post 3002, Iverson wrote:"infinity is town and her not voting me isn't +scum"

i never said it was

(really i never explained anything about why i made that post but here we are)

I'm going to get less sympathetic and more vicious if I actually respond to that. If you're upset with me butting into your process I'm sorry, I think the timing shows why I thought that even if it was wrong.

In post 3005, Iverson wrote:I'm going to get less sympathetic and more vicious if I actually respond to that. If you're upset with me butting into your process I'm sorry, I think the timing shows why I thought that even if it was wrong.

i'm not upset, and if you feel the need to get vicious (although i don't see why we're at this point) then feel free? this isn't going to go how 2181 went for obvious reasons.

I'm not. You have free rein and I am sorry for jumping in. Continue unimpeded and forget I said anything.

Ok.

at the very core of it i'm possibly just getting paranoid, but i see an inkling of infinity shuffling reads and not reevaluating the gamestate which to me is suspicious. would welcome noddy/VFT/DC opinion on this as at times as i think you've been +scum on her at times where i haven't. Bulge flipping town probably warrants me reexamining that whole deal too.

in contrast, Prism if you've got a good "this is why infinity is town to me" sense right now too I'm happy to look at it.

Prism I am not dealing with you in a way that is throwing you away in my scum pile and positioning every future interaction w/ you as a way to get your partners. I feel like that should be obvious from my demeanor, but if I need to unvote to get you to get past that, then I am willing to. If you're town you're a huge asset to me.

I'm sort of preparing to re-evaluate, I haven't had much motivation today and to be 100% honest I'm having trouble finding a way to reread that would be productive but I'll start by ISOing peta and seeing where that gets me.

1. You say that but are literally still voting me, which presumably means you are prepared to end the game with this guess.
2. That is an absolutely gigantic burden to put on me while actively rejecting every read I have given all game and there is little reason to believe this is more than a carrot on a stick where if I put in 40 hours explaining the same reads 4 different ways maybe 5% of the time you'll consider not flipping me.
3. L+G interactions are significantly better with the Infinity slot than any other, go back and read and L+G is noticeably afraid of her while a lot more willing to take risks poking at a slot like Cakez.

In post 3011, Iverson wrote:while actively rejecting every read I have given all game

i don't understand how i've done this

There is a reason I wanted clarification on the gamestate. I am not putting in 40+ hours for no reason. Ask me something that will plausibly get you to flip or just let the game end.

Nope, going to have an aneurysm, not doing this, another time maybe if we're lucky.

i've never had an interaction w/ anyone quite like this one and i don't know what to make of it

I'm heading out for the night. I will not be checking the thread again until 9 EST tomorrow, where I will stick around for exactly one hour. This will be the daily ritual for the rest of the game.

In post 3011, Iverson wrote:You say that but are literally still voting me, which presumably means you are prepared to end the game with this guess.

i guess - how should i, as a rule, interact w/ someone in a gamestate that is basically going nowhere who happens to be the person i suspect most at the current moment, but obviously still have a ton of reservations about the quality of my reads as a whole.

because if there's a better way of dealing with it that's not going to involve a repeat of yesterday i'm absolutely open to it.

(this question is to everyone, really. i don't know what to do at this point)

I don't fucking know can we vote DC

What are your reservations with voting DC. Maybe that's a more productive use of my time than looking through the ISO of a strong scum player whose one job was to make the associatives unclear

DC has been mostly pinpoint on L&G (scum), NM (scum), and Mara (who you also think is scum) and Mena has been pretty ok to me since early D1.

You were on Iverson but swapped off him for 2779 and I don't get what you saw there (and you even made 2782 later)

In post 600, fferyllt wrote:

Leafeon and Glaceon

(3): Disaster Cartel, Nachomamma8, SirCakez

In post 2000, fferyllt wrote:

Not_Mafia

(4): Infinity 324, Disaster Cartel, SirCakez, Iverson

In a recent game pooky told me that cakez is allergic to bussing since recently

fuck this game

sorry, i suck. busy and feeling exceptionally not-good today.

i'm really sorry about fucking up yesterday.

i'll try to make myself be around tomorrow, one thing that i can offer right now on a skim is that iverson's petulance(sorry idk what other word right now) is something i've seen come from him as town, havent played against him as scum so i don't know if it carries over but that's the baseline and it feels like the same "fuck this" spite-energy he had in boi game. feels at odds with how i felt eod about him.

sorry, will be here tomorrow with more otherwise but, yeah.

- ydra

In post 3019, Kismet wrote:DC has been mostly pinpoint on L&G (scum), NM (scum), and Mara (who you also think is scum) and Mena has been pretty ok to me since early D1.

You were on Iverson but swapped off him for 2779 and I don't get what you saw there (and you even made 2782 later)

DC gets very little credit for voting NM since the slot voted bulge in the end.

I didn't start TRing iverson when I unvoted him, I was only voting him to pressure him into explaining the hammer. Honestly, I don't understand his play here, but I think that's more town-indicative than anything, I just can't see an agenda to his play. Idk obviously one of my townreads is wrong, and I wouldn't even really be townreading the slot if not for salsa being towny as well.

In post 3022, Infinity 324 wrote:DC gets very little credit for voting NM since the slot voted bulge in the end.

i suppose that's true, although this would hold more weight w/ me if the slot were not a hydra.

In post 3022, Infinity 324 wrote:I just can't see an agenda to his play.

if there is one right now it's to keep me off balance, but I will freely admit I can't reliably discern between that and genuine frustration other than I don't really feel I'm being all that combative w/ Prism (although maybe objectively i am coming off differently to others, esp wrt the vote)