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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:28 pm
by Chara
Flea: BoI mafia probably won't be for a while. i've been playing a lot of Hollow Knight.
also i didn't think you were that LHF, but i did see you as possibly closer to it than the others i pointed out. i agreed with the second list "cosmically" ie generally.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:29 pm
by Flea The Magician
I'm reminded of the ever amusing "I helped Uncle Jack, off his horse." exercise here and it's amusing me.

Case on NDMath is - there isn't one. It's an 11 post slot, there's no case to be made.


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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:33 pm
by Guillotina
I don't know about you guys but I feel there is pressure against either of those two yeets, which could mean three things:

1) Both are scum
2) One of them is scum and they don't wanna yeet the other one because then I could be right about the other one.
3) I am the one who is wrong about both Flea and Sigmund and everyone else townreads them.

Fine! Luckily for you I got others in my scum pile.

How about this fine specimen? VOTE: Farkran

We got a fan here.
In post 2766, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2765, Farkran wrote:
In post 2764, Artemiana wrote:Would you compromise on Anya?

You would be vote 5
Bingle 6
Morph 7

+

With a few of those votes being moved, faer would no longer be the largest wagon
I wouldn't vote Anya for reasons
. That being said,
i don't know the player, i don't think i can read her properly,
and i don't think it would be particularly valuable info compared to the alternatives.
This is scum, regardless of what happens today. Like, this is the worst hedging nonsense I've ever seen.
and me as well
In post 1878, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1778, Farkran wrote:I think she could be scum, but she's also a player who talks a lot and will be sorted at some point no matter what
Farkran is scum here. Townies don't scum read someone but considers the idea of letting them live longer just because the player's meta is that they talk a lot.
I'm undecided on whether this looks like a save or a pocket.
In post 1817, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1814, Farkran wrote:I also think it's not theatrey, as in they aren't s/s but why not t/s?
Excuse me?

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:36 pm
by Chara
kind of just want to see someone flip so i can see where i'm right and where i'm wrong. but i don't want yet another new wagon as compromise.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:37 pm
by Guillotina
In post 2998, Titus wrote:
In post 2988, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2986, Titus wrote:
In post 2972, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2971, Titus wrote:
In post 2969, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not voting anya.
Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?
I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.
Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?
I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.
I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.
Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:42 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2170, Dunnstral wrote:Tell em' ffery

Use your big brain
I'm wondering if Morph ever caught onto this and have kept it to themselves or if they have no clue what I'm on about

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:44 pm
by Guillotina
In post 2983, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2981, Flea The Magician wrote:ok that's all you're getting today on catchup, as it stands, I'm good for NDMath or Sigmund, I'm open to compromise to make sure we get a lim.
What's the case on NDMath?
I'm still waiting Flea

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:44 pm
by Dunnstral
VOTE: Anya

Because LLD seems convinced

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:44 pm
by Bell
Did Anya ever claim

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:46 pm
by Bingle
In post 2989, Something_Smart wrote:I do not think continuing to argue the point helps anything.
I think continuing to argue the point has the capacity to make Guillotina stop confbiasing a bad read and that given I think Guillotina is town that is valuable to me. I also think that Sigmund is scum encouraging G's bad read here, and will continue pointing that out.


Guillotina, this is a similar engagement I had with scum in a just finished game. I was town. Multiple people, including conftown, have told you that the phrasing Flea used is objectively neutral on the alignment of Sigmund given specifically that they themselves would use that phrasing. Either they are all lying, including the conftown, or there is a set of the population (which appears to be everyone except you from where I sit) who WOULD use that phrase to convey that specific meaning.

As far as pushback on the Sigmund wagon, I believe that is literally just morph, who has not really explained why.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:46 pm
by Titus
In post 3004, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2998, Titus wrote:
In post 2988, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2986, Titus wrote:
In post 2972, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2971, Titus wrote:
In post 2969, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not voting anya.
Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?
I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.
Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?
I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.
I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.
Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.
There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:47 pm
by Bingle
In post 3008, Bell wrote:Did Anya ever claim
No, and also who cares?

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:50 pm
by Bell
In post 3011, Bingle wrote:
In post 3008, Bell wrote:Did Anya ever claim
No, and also who cares?
I do.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:55 pm
by Chara
i just don't agree about anya, she is doing things in her ISO, she's made votes with reasoning before the LLD vote, yeah they're not especially big moves but i think that's just the kind of player anya is.

i'm just not seeing the big slam-dunk that she isn't solving at all. i'd accept that her solving isn't deep or some other reason but i think this is the vibe anya brings to the table generally.

i like Sigmund or Flea better.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:56 pm
by morph the cat
In post 3005, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2170, Dunnstral wrote:Tell em' ffery

Use your big brain
I'm wondering if Morph ever caught onto this and have kept it to themselves or if they have no clue what I'm on about
We metaphorically looked sideways at each other and shrugged. "something about galaxy brains?"

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:56 pm
by Thestatusquo
In post 3004, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2998, Titus wrote:
In post 2988, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2986, Titus wrote:
In post 2972, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2971, Titus wrote:
In post 2969, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not voting anya.
Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?
I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.
Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?
I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.
I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.
Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.
Uh I'm explicitly against an anya yeet.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:57 pm
by Guillotina
In post 3010, Titus wrote:
In post 3004, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2998, Titus wrote:
In post 2988, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2986, Titus wrote:
In post 2972, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2971, Titus wrote:
In post 2969, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not voting anya.
Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?
I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.
Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?
I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.
I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.
Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.
There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.
Ok. Do you scumread Sigmund?

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:00 pm
by Titus
In post 3016, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3010, Titus wrote:
In post 3004, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2998, Titus wrote:
In post 2988, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2986, Titus wrote:
In post 2972, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2971, Titus wrote:
In post 2969, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not voting anya.
Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?
I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.
Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?
I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.
I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.
Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.
There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.
Ok. Do you scumread Sigmund?
Absolutely not.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:01 pm
by Flea The Magician
In post 3006, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2983, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2981, Flea The Magician wrote:ok that's all you're getting today on catchup, as it stands, I'm good for NDMath or Sigmund, I'm open to compromise to make sure we get a lim.
What's the case on NDMath?
I'm still waiting Flea
In post 3001, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm reminded of the ever amusing "I helped Uncle Jack, off his horse." exercise here and it's amusing me.

Case on NDMath is - there isn't one. It's an 11 post slot, there's no case to be made.


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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:02 pm
by Thestatusquo
It's an 11 post slot but i remember agreeing with several of their takes.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:02 pm
by Sigmund
In post 3009, Bingle wrote:Either they are all lying, including the conftown, or there is a set of the population (which appears to be everyone except you from where I sit) who WOULD use that phrase to convey that specific meaning.
or you're just wrong.

something that could possibly happen

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:03 pm
by Farkran
In post 2766, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2765, Farkran wrote:
In post 2764, Artemiana wrote:Would you compromise on Anya?

You would be vote 5
Bingle 6
Morph 7

+

With a few of those votes being moved, faer would no longer be the largest wagon
I wouldn't vote Anya for reasons
. That being said,
i don't know the player, i don't think i can read her properly,
and i don't think it would be particularly valuable info compared to the alternatives.
This is scum, regardless of what happens today. Like, this is the worst hedging nonsense I've ever seen.
Wow i didn't even notice this until guillotina pointed it out

Anyways you should really drop your tunnel guillo, because i'm town and it's not the first time i tell you so. If you are town, and i think you are, it's part of your wincon to let me live.

@LLD, what in that post sounds hedging, given that i can't talk about my motives for not voting anya?

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:04 pm
by Guillotina
In post 3017, Titus wrote:
In post 3016, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3010, Titus wrote:
In post 3004, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2998, Titus wrote:
In post 2988, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2986, Titus wrote:
In post 2972, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2971, Titus wrote:
In post 2969, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm not voting anya.
Why is anya town aside from me voting anya?
I can't talk about this because of ongoing games.
Surely you can describe the townish behavior. Or are you saying there is none?
I thought my statement was very fucking clear to be honest and you trying to goad me into breaking site rules isn't going to work.
I'm not asking for meta or behavior over multiple games. I'm asking for what makes her town in this game. I don't care about ongoing games or references to any past completed games.

I would never goad anyone into breaking site rules.

Here you're using every defense in the book but explaining why anya is town because you can't. There is no reason to think she is.
Ok. Sell me on why Anya is scum then? TSQ and Lady did a terrible job, maybe you can close that deal.
There's an absolute and utter lack of solving in her ISO. Her only response to people pushing on her is to call them scum. Can you name one push she's done that isn't OMGUS? Can you see anything that's intended to get a reaction? Can you show any follow through?

The case on Anya is that she isn't doing anything at all.
Ok. Do you scumread Sigmund?
Absolutely not.
Ok.

But... according to what you have expressed, Anya and Sigmund's play have been similar, they lack of solve and only OMGUS the players that push them. Sigmund OMGUS me until I suspected Flea which directly benefited him but before that he's been calling me wolfboy etc and his content is bad. So why do you scumread Anya but not Sigmund?

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:04 pm
by Chara
i mean Math's posts have more content than most of mine, lmao. if you're going to scumread the slot at least say why besides activity. especially from Flea who has been arguing activity is NAI for faer.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:05 pm
by morph the cat
In post 3014, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3005, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2170, Dunnstral wrote:Tell em' ffery

Use your big brain
I'm wondering if Morph ever caught onto this and have kept it to themselves or if they have no clue what I'm on about
We metaphorically looked sideways at each other and shrugged. "something about galaxy brains?"
Although looking back that was probably a gloss-over.

Your Image certainty does ping townish, though.