Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[Something_Smart]

S_S, what's your usual approach to replacing into a 100+ page game? How are you approaching this game?

Uh, hope that something interesting happens that I can get involved with?

Which has definitely happened here.

[Kate Bishop]

How do you form reads?

[Something_Smart]

S_S, what is your read on Wheme?

Uh, null, but not for lack of trying. I didn't like his whole "it's not hard to say whether you can kill or not" and I also didn't love his baby sheep vote on me after I just pointed out that he totally doesn't have to. But, if he's been setting up to scumread me, then I don't see why he forays into calling me town for like two seconds only to immediately change his mind. So I'm not sure that it necessarily makes a lot of sense as an agenda.

[Something_Smart]

How do you form reads?

Uh, by reading posts and comparing them to my experience and logic to decide how much sense they make as town/scum?

Though if I'm being honest it's mostly logic. Experience tends to lead me wrong more than it leads me right.

[Something_Smart]

S_S, can you do the binary kill/no kill thing

I can't kill.

[Something_Smart]

I have come to the unsatisfying conclusion that S_S is not a player for which statistical analysis is very valid.

Yup, sorry. My town and scum games are very similar.

Neat tool though!

[Kate Bishop]

How do you form reads?

Uh, by reading posts and comparing them to my experience and logic to decide how much sense they make as town/scum?

Though if I'm being honest it's mostly logic. Experience tends to lead me wrong more than it leads me right.

Do you read back? Or do you base your reads on data that hits the thread after join? a mix?

[Something_Smart]

I generally will only read back when I'm looking to refresh myself on how something went down.

[Kate Bishop]

S_S, can you do the binary kill/no kill thing

I can't kill.

This pisses me off.

[Something_Smart]

Oh, did you mean in a replacement game specifically?

Kinda the same, except instead of refreshing it's just familiarizing myself with something that people are talking about.

[Something_Smart]

This pisses me off.

I mean, I'm not thrilled about it either, but a wagon's a wagon.

[Kate Bishop]

I generally will only read back when I'm looking to refresh myself on how something went down.

I know you take a long time to size up reads when you are in a game from the start sometimes. A la smokefilled antechamber.

I'm baffled how this would work replacing into a thread where a lot has happened.

[Dunnstral]

You ever get what you want, then you realize you don't know what to do with it?

My understanding of this is that unwnd wanted a killing role because they felt people weren't listening to their reads, specifically from the last game

All games would be better if I had a dayvig.

This combined with the rest feels like blatant softing

Kami-sama, please grant me the ability to destroy my enemies :3

More softing of flavor and potentially role. "grant me the ability to destroy my enemies" seems like a killing role or something similarly aggressive

ALSO I WAS POO POO ON POPCORN WHAT ARE U ON ABOUT KATE

I give you a gun

Who are you shooting whemey

This post feels like they are considering firing today and giving what ifs

[Dunnstral]

So I think 3004 is at odds with all of that

[Kate Bishop]

This pisses me off.

I mean, I'm not thrilled about it either, but a wagon's a wagon.

What pisses off is that your slot heavily crumbed vig and you didn't clear that up when we asked you to.

The reason we outed our vig shot was because it looked like there were too many different non-elim kills in the game to make sense.

[Something_Smart]

So I think 3004 is at odds with all of that

We can be confused about it together, I guess.

[Something_Smart]

The reason we outed our vig shot was because it looked like there were too many different non-elim kills in the game to make sense.

I'm sorry. You could have just said it was for a role-related reason and I probably would have done it.

You didn't really give me any reason at all...

[Kate Bishop]

The reason we outed our vig shot was because it looked like there were too many different non-elim kills in the game to make sense.

I'm sorry. You could have just said it was for a role-related reason and I probably would have done it.

You didn't really give me any reason at all...

Just multiple people quoting unwnd and asking you to clear it up.

done's done, though.

[Something_Smart]

Just multiple people quoting unwnd and asking you to clear it up.

That's not a reason, though.

The only reason given was that it would help sort me, but it didn't seem like that was worth revealing info if I didn't have a wagon. But now I do. Hence the timing.

[DrippingGoofball]

What pisses off is that your slot heavily crumbed vig and you didn't clear that up when we asked you to.

Read my sig.

I'm going to vote S_S

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Something_Smart

The initial softs factored into my early townlean of your slot, and then when a bunch of other killing roles came out I believe you were put into an awkward situation where you would be suspected for being a killing role on top of all of that, or suspected for going back on earlier softs

[Something_Smart]

Well, at least I can be comforted in knowing that I'm not getting killed for any fault of my own.

Though I feel like you must have a pretty low opinion of my mechanical skills to think I would stall that long and then not claim a gun as scum?

[Kate Bishop]

Cabd?

What are your thoughts?

[Cabd]

I'm:

1: Distraught my tool didn't useful
and
2: Really think we're letting wheme off the hook
but
3: Absolutely don't mind voting there.

[Dunnstral]

Though I feel like you must have a pretty low opinion of my mechanical skills to think I would stall that long and then not claim a gun as scum?

This is untrue and I won't be able to tell if it was a good/bad move without seeing the full picture of scum roles (which have the potential to be quite complicated in this game)