Tales of You (Endgame)

[Kagura]

It frustrates me that I see people shutting other people out because they refuse to agree with their point of view.

[Titan]

Bro *hug*

[MastinSSK]

I'll focus on the parts I disagree with. The parts I'm not quoting I'm considering, but will point out these to see F-16's response to it.

PV shows a lot of VI behavior that can be considered scummy by town.

...Except I know he's no VI, so if he's showing VI behavior, it's likely from scum.

Nearly everyone has some sort of concerns about PV basically making him the default lynch for the day.

Which doesn't give anything about his alignment, 'specially if resistance to his lynch forms. (It has.)

He's made no less than 86 posts, more than quite a few other players.

Early activity from PV I actually consider a minor scumtell.

His questioning of MastinSSK in Post 1780 picks up on a lot of things that are vague and unexplained.

AKA, actual discrediting that is on an element of my play he has seen in many games of mine. You said it yourself: regardless of my affiliation, I have a tendency to be vague, and PV's bringing it up was therefore not town, since he is well familiar with it.

Him accurately pointing out that the usefulness of my argument is limited shows a very keen grasp of the gamestate. My explanation for town-DV came at a point when the wagon was dying a little but I posted it anyways because I was working on it for a while, but PV picked up on the timing of it to use it for further analysis. His Post 1800 is an absolute classic. Did you see how well he tracked down my read on Cupcake to show where I was making leaps and explained nothing? It is because of the discussions in this neighborhood that refined my Cupcake read. I didn't have a perfect trajectory for it in thread.

If a town-PV can pick up on it and analyze it, why can't a scum-PV pick up on it and cast suspicion on it?

As you can tell by this being fairly short, you raise good points to consider. And they are being considered.

[The Fox and the Hound]

I still wanna lynch RBD, but if not, anyone up for a mastin lynch?

I would be. Maybe Ceph wouldn't be? He still has to get back to me in the QT about RBD. grrr.

Believe it or not, there is a large number of lynches I would currently prefer. Also, check the QT.

Vore: orcinus

Vote: orcinus

[Mac]

[quote="In post 3012, Kagura"][/quote]

meh, maybe. I'll see how the next 5 minutes goes. Would probably prefer LB.

[Yggdra Union]

(((BRO)))

-Y

[MastinSSK]

Vore: orcinus

Sure.
VOTE: orcinus.

[Titan]

ACTUALLY IM GIVING EVERYONE AN EHUG RIGHT NOW.

[The Fox and the Hound]

wall of feels

...
Ouch, my feels...

[CarbonFiber]

Vote: PeregrineV

YOU ARE VOTING ANOTHER TOWNIE NOW AND HERE'S WHY

I have no intention of reading the wall that follows this because I know I won't agree with it

But I'm going to give you one last chance before I give up on ever trying to play in a game with you again

And I do not care if you already don't want to play with me (that would make me extremely happy, actually) and I do not care if you think there is no reason to think this but

I am town. I have very good reason to think I'm right about Mastin, if he is scum here, then I dunno, I'll just quit playing mafia for a while, I had every intention of taking a break after my current games are finished and being this wrong about something I'm so confident I'm right about will just give me more reason to want to take a break.

For a moment, consider that I'm town and that Mastin is also town. If you think PV is town, then who is scum?

Okay, I was probably considering that I was wrong given a few other things about the gamestate.

I think the scum is probably AP. You and Mastin going off on him the minute he entered the game and he responded with two townreads on both of you felt weird. Mastin's battle with him could be coming from town/scum.

His push on Bork was crap. A whole bunch of nitpicky arguments that make zero sense.

Clyton "sacrificing" you guys smells like BS if you are town. So, he's probably another scum.

[Just Sheep Us]

yeah that's great rah rah kumbaya

but look at what's fucking happening right now. we just spent 120 pages and accomplished absolutely nothing. i'd rather we get lynched than a fucking deadline flashwagon.

[CarbonFiber]

Can we lynch AP?

[Mac]

BRO

Relax buddy. We're all friends here.

[Just Sheep Us]

i'd rather not. i don't think bro would want that.

[Mac]

Vote: orcinus

And with that, I bid the farewell, and goodnight

[MastinSSK]

mastin's participation and constant emotional manipulation/borderline abuse towards things she knows make me tick and AP being strangely disconnected from me haven't helped, either.

Well, I'm not scum and Rancid's not either, so your main reason for being ticked off would be gone by recalibrating your scumdar. Rancid's question to F-16 applies for me to you, in that if we were both town...what then, Bro?

[Just Sheep Us]

i'm going to reiterate that we are NOT lynching fucking orcinus or ap or lord business or clyton or any of these fucking lurkfucks with three hours to go.

[CarbonFiber]

That is not discrediting.

yes it is

he is referring to F-16 as some sort of negative utility for town by spinning what F-16 would do next as a negative action that needs to be avoided

by doing so he is devaluing F-16's opinions since ppl will be less inclined to pay attention to them. hence, discrediting

-Y

No, it's not and using this type of argument doesn't convince anyone. I've, as town, made a similar statement. He could just as easily be concerned about what is likely to happen tomorrow as he could be scum trying to setup a narrative.

How the fuck do you see what's happening here Tammy?

It is not just the fact that he is saying "X is scum if Y flips town." It is the manipulative way that he is going about it trying to get other people to get mad at me.

[Kagura]

Vote: orcinus

[Kagura]

Vote: orcinus

[Yggdra Union]

this is fucking tiring and it's taking everything I got to not start adhom'ing the fuck out of mastin. bc everything BRO said is true. and now mastin is just fucking ignoring it bc he knowsx he's caught and has literally no defense for it

-Y

[AngryPidgeon]

This orci wagon kind of sucks but way less than bro or rbd

[Kagura]

Vote: orcinus

[Just Sheep Us]

NO

unvote
vote: just sheep us

get your fucking votes off of orcinus and put them back on us

[Yulia Jue]

Stop voting so I can have a pagetop, people