Real Folk Blues Rematch [GAME OVER]

[PeregrineV]

1. I didn't list PerV as scum. I listed him gaining scum points. I don't recall him taunting the thread Timeshift with admitting he was barely reading the game.

Timeshift also didn't have 100+ pages in day1, and 32 players.

But, we have a day1 scumflip. Did you read the Nero ISO?

[Gorkington]

apparently im dumb as fuck.

[Insomniacs]

this was hammer, if I didn't count wrong from the last mod votecount from pg 113

youre right
q.q

I hope to the almighty IC document you are wrong here and suffer from my traditional Math can't count disease.

--Math

[Gorkington]

unless fire's VC is wrong, i hammered.

[Not Chara]

who was the vote before you? it might have been me. i didn't declare l-1 or even check.

[PeregrineV]

Vote Count 1.16

SlySly (L-3): Socrates, Master Vampire, Not Fury, RachMarie, Scott and Ramona, rb, Ramcius, Cerberus v666, Siblings Quarrel, TheRealGin-N-Tonics, Tywin Lannister, Davesaz, Almost50
Master Vampire (L-15): Chairman Doggo,
Tywin Lannister (L-12): Insomnaics, Gamma Emerald, randomidget, Titus
RachMarie (L-15): PeregrineV

Not Voting (12): Shiro, Majiffy, ZZZX, Kidamn, MariaR, Wall,Tarkus, Hiraki, Carnelian, SlySly, Not Chara, mhsmith0

With 31 players alive it takes 16 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-05-18 21:10:00)

Note: Majiffy has requested replacement
Kidamn has requested replacement
Tarkus has requested replacement
ZZX is on V/LA
Shiro is on V/LA.

Carnelian is being prodded again.
Are you serious?

Votes reset when Nero died

oh
VOTE: Tywin

and 2827 is right, Narna's been here plenty.

i'm having trouble wrapping my head around Tywin's assertion i must be scum for 'twisting' Doggo into voting Sly, when Tywin also agrees Sly is scum, just thinks he's on another team from me.
how do i simultaneously scummily pick any wagon i can while also finding a wagon on scum, from Tywin's perspective? how can he be so confident Sly is scum but i

can't

be or want to push it because this game is massive and lynching anyone who doesn't look town is acceptable?

pedit: sure i am, i don't have anything else to be doing.
VOTE: Tywin

My last set of reads:

Obvtown: SQ
Probtown: Not Fury, Ram
Scum: Gamma, Tywin

My latest set of reads:

Obvtown:
SQ (obvreasons)
Gamma (Gamma knew he was the dayvig before the rest of us. When I voted him, he called bs on my vote because he thought it was random. When I told him to go flip the coin I posted and tell me how many times it took him to get it to land on tails, I'm sure he picked up on the sarcastic shot that my statement was and I'm sure his finger itched on his dayvig gun, but he didn't pull the trigger. After dayvig of Nero, if Gamma was opposing scum to Nero and listening to those reaching to try and tie me to Nero, he would have gladly and easily lead the charge to lynch me while I was away from the thread. Because he didn't dayvig me when I pushed him and he also went beyond the call of duty and insisted repeatedly that everyone wait for me to return, Gamma's either town or my scumbuddy on the scum team opposing Nero.)
Insomniacs (so obv explaining would be overkill)

the following 3 are obvtown for the same reason
(little content noticed by me, but lots of brain at work in what i did notice)
MariaR
Not Chara
ZZZX

Probtown:
Ram (feels exactly like town Ram I've played with before)

Unknown:
Titus (She will lure you in with perfume and honey and eat you after consummation then replace out.)
A50 (He should be named A 50/50 because that's how I always have him read.)

Earning scum points:
Doggo & rb (day rushing, welcome to MS youngins. on this site a 7d15h54m deadline = lynch will be in 7d15h53m)
Not Fury (fake and shifting claims/crumbs)
Carnelian (anyone that knows me, knows how I feel about millers. lurking millers are even worse)
PerV (It takes him a while to get going usually, but good when up and running. He's barely used the crank starter and the engine is still sputtering but basically taunting the thread that he's only skimming the game lights up my scumdar.)

Scum:
Tywin (obvscum, glad the pack seems to be catching up. he's so obvscum, it's almost a waste to lynch him.)
MasterVampire (Nos gives exact same vibes as last time I played with NosScum. If BTD6 was town, he'd already have the game broken and be pushing home his clear path to victory but he's barely made a peep this game)

I'll gladly support Tywin lynch, but I view him as already bagged scum. We're already up 1 with the GF out, so I'd much prefer this at this point...

VOTE: MasterVampire

I haven't had time to go back and pick through both of my wagons and do iso's for everyone's reasons for voting me, but I will. I'm sure doing so will fill in more blanks and adjust these reads. Thus far, the rest have barely caught my attention, outside of the whole Scott and Ramona vs Majiffy replace out debacle that struck me as NAI from both parties.

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To address the 'I'm only alive because I was being waited for crowd', I'll gladly claim flavor and role if that's the general consensus, but I'd prefer not to. I'm not at L-1 and I don't feel like things are headed in that direction.

WOE IS ME. ACK. ALAS. SCUM HATH TAKEN CONTROL OF THE GAME AND TOWN ARE FOOLS. REPENT. REPENT YE OF LITTLE FAITH

yeah this is exactly how i read them lmao

anyway i forgot where i left off in reading and it's 1:30 am so im. not

im kind of ok with slysly's last post zzzzzz (though lol @ the me/rb read and nf). neros vote on him was bad and bussyish but meh

no clue who our vote is on UNVOTE:

VOTE: cerb

let's do this zzzzzzzz

case tomorrow if wanted unless t changes this vote

pedit: tywin kinda strikes me as that kind of person zzz

you really think that an entire scumteam dogpiles like that on day one?
thats your experience with how scum plays?

In multiball? Fuck yes they do. Scum will both double team any lynch not on their own team. If it's town, they smell blood and go for it.

In regular games? No. In games this large? With less than half probably town? You think scum won't double team town?

all i remember from last game is that one scumteam (the evil ones) just kept bussing each other while i think the other (red dragon syndicate) i dont think ever posted besides rach marie

anyway im crashing so dont expect serious engagement from me here on out 2nite zzzzzzz

Wait for the goddamn claim.

wait for gamma implied waiting for the claim, not gamma's shot that i missed

(i also don't trust unofficial vote counts)

Sly is lurking scum. Should've made him claim days ago.

tywin strikes again with an unverifiable and unjustifiable claim!!!!!!!

I would rather a dead Tywin but I don't expect him to flip scum to a reasonable doubt. Just more-likely-than not.

Sly's wagon also has 2 of my big scumreads so it's a no go for me.

Not Fury's 2753 demonstrates the weird pandering I've seen on that wagon.

titus might honestly be scum.

hard pass, get ur head out of ur butt

Almost is back to scumtier, since I forgot about his play earlier.

on another note, if tywin makes one more "WOE IS ME. ACK. ALAS. SCUM HATH TAKEN CONTROL OF THE GAME AND TOWN ARE FOOLS. REPENT. REPENT YE OF LITTLE FAITH"-type-post i will vote him.
mostly because im tired of reading them.
bonus points for that hes probably the most viable counterwagon.
bonus bonus points for that the more he does this, the more i dont believe hes town doing it!
so!

mmmm this is good

ZZZX

Yeah?

Doggo & rb (day rushing, welcome to MS youngins. on this site a 7d15h54m deadline = lynch will be in 7d15h53m)

But - you do realize we're on Page 116 for D1, right?

Gonna park my vote here for awhile with PeregrineV since I'm starting to agree with neither wagon:

Vote: RachMarie

You're both playing differently than I know you do as town. You've only switched styles recently interacting with me. Why?

i'm actually scumreading Almost for his attitude right now too.
the reason i've switched now is because i felt like it. i think i can read you if i put in the effort and i resolved to put in effort since we (Almost and I) were just mislynched in lylo in British Monarchy mafia and i want a win. i had time to discuss with you so i decided to.

Doggo: they did say Sly before me, you missed it.

on your Alisae defending: that's how it seemed to me, when you kept repeating it. that you should be town because of the defending. i missed it if it was to make the point that you weren't just going with the flow.

VOTE: SlySly

i don't want to lynch Tywin.
pedit: i'd have to check.

VOTE: SlySly

Would rather not vanity vote.

Here's how 2600 hits me....

Classic Tywin monster wall post of convoluted crap, ironic this one's not from Tywin, that basically says, "WTF?! I can't be expected to have a good reads list, I've barely read any posts and the posts I have read have lead me to only kind of sort a handful, but out of that small handful I have 3 clear scumreads. I've conveniently color coded my naked vote red."

VOTE: SLYSLY

this is pretty damn terrible!

i changed my mind.
did a lazySkim of tywin's meta.
he isnt a robo-"BEEP BOOP PERSON IS SCUM 100% CONFIRMED" as town and is a lot more genial sounding/actually converses with people in dbza.
the whole "I AM VERY GOOD AT SCUMHUNTING 100% THIS PERSON IS MAFIA KILL THEM WTF IDIOTS" looks more like his ISO in timeshift.
VOTE: tywin

VOTE: Tywin

[PeregrineV]

SlySly (Lynched): Socrates, Master Vampire, Not Fury, RachMarie, Scott and Ramona, rb, Ramcius, Cerberus v666, Siblings Quarrel, TheRealGin-N-Tonics, Tywin Lannister, Davesaz, Almost50, Not Chara, Chairman Doggo, Gorkington
Master Vampire (1): , SlySly
Tywin Lannister (5): Insomnaics, Gamma Emerald, randomidget, Titus, MariaR,
RachMarie (2): PeregrineV, Hiraki

Not Voting (7): Shiro, Majiffy, ZZZX, Kidamn,, ,Tarkus, , Carnelian, ,, mhsmith0

Looks like a lynch
2961 and 2965 do not count.

[Tywin Lannister]

if you dont care about meta, just try to look at tywin under the context of "is this someone who is legitimately trying to solve the game and parse people pushing him? or is it someone who is throwing intense amounts of blowback onto his wagon to try and derail it?"

theres also that he just tried to imply that i "lied" to try and get him lynched. which is pretty awful.

yeah man going for that classic lie to get you lynched move here.
im saying that the tone of your reads is vastly different from your towngame and very similar to the scumgame i saw.
you conversed all throughout earlygame dbza. like.
ALL of it.
not just questions and sorting, but talking to people like they were people. and not just saying "THIS PERSON IS SCUM AND I AM BEING PERSECUTED" which is your entire ISO this game.

are you going to commit to calling me scum, or no?

When did I say 'lie to get me lynched?' See, now youre putting words into my mouth. I think you're town based on when you were wall (which I think you played better under for whatever reason), but I'm gonna call you on your bullshit regardless of your alignment. I'm not here to kiss your ass in hopes you don't lynch me. If you wanna lynch town all game, that's on you. I'm in the game to win though, and when I'm being discredited and lied about, you better believe I'll call bullshit on it.

That's nai btw,l (In case you put even more words in my mouth) since I call bs regardless of alignment. Almost knows this, since he was legit the only person in Timeshift who could read me. A50 caught our entire scum team by himself. Nobody else had a clue, which is also why I lol every time people claim they know my scum game in here. No, they don't. They were bailed out by one great player who vig killed everyone, while the rest of town were busy lynching each other. I've flipped scum one time since I rejoined MS and made this name, but very few of you actually can tell a difference between my town/scum games, if only because there's only been one of them. NC/Almost can I think, which is why I respect them as players and pay attention when they post. Theres a few others as well, but that list isn't very big, and I highly doubt you actually read any of my meta.

I talk to people as people when they don't claim I'm scum without reason and just repeat it over and over and over without ever giving a case. If I'm not treated as a person, then why the hell would I treat them that way? They can become people again after the game, but what I say in game have reasons. That's part of the game btw.

Right now I feel like you're all just judging me based on perceived personality rather than actually SRing me. I know damn well Titus is. Theres a reason I don't get along with her at all, and thats one of them. She'd rather lose a game for everyone rather than be told she's wrong. Her personality sucks, and she doesn't separate it to play for her win con. Egos that can't ever relax to think critically aren't going to be treated well by those she can't bully, and she sure tries to bully everyone. She hated me for calling her out, but I still won't lynch her unless she's scum. Her on the other hand would lynch everyone that 'annoys' her ego and pretend they're scum to justify it.

Aside from that, do whatever you want,but don't think I'll sit and take bullshit excuses and fake reads like others do. I'm not gonna kiss your ass regardless.

Again, stop putting words into my mouth and calling it awful. That's shit and you know it.

Pedit: did I just get hammered without a claim? Wtf?

[Gorkington]

i really hope this flips scum. :/
that was really fucking dumb of me.

[Insomniacs]

@PV you're missing Doggo's vote it looks like it is hammer.

*sigh*

--Math

Any harm to me outing what I saw since Sly was derp hammered?

[Chairman Doggo]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Gorkington]

Any harm to me outing what I saw since Sly was derp hammered?

probs not.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[PeregrineV]

@PV you're missing Doggo's vote it looks like it is hammer.

*sigh*

--Math

Any harm to me outing what I saw since Sly was derp hammered?

Does it help catch scum? If so, say it.

[PeregrineV]

Pedit: did I just get hammered without a claim? Wtf?

Tweren't you.

[Tywin Lannister]

Nvm it's sly. Let's see whose right. I'll prob get mislynched tomorrow but ill still have that. If Sly flips town im fucked, but I'm pretty damn sure he wont.

[Insomniacs]

SlySly - Wall is cool and all and I certainly am delighted by his persona and have said so.

but why are your only real contributions to the thread about this persona?

After happy hour and wine later, reading Wall made me envision him dreaming about Wall posts for months and being in meetings at work thinking of ways to top his own greatness. It's a self imposed flogging. It's still making me laugh.

My first post about Not Fury was a real contribution. One word, pineapples.

Pineapples is so out of place here.
Did a google search to Cowboy Bebop pineapples.

http://www.tor.com/2010/03/26/cowboy-be ... og-strutq/

Got a reference to that episode.

Main characters are Spike and the doggy EIN.

Likely lynched EIN based on the title.

*sigh*

Anyone who didn't even try to figure out what the fuck I was talking about even after I said hei sui which was a reference to that episode goes on my WTF list.

--Math

Seriously no one thought it was odd Sly sly randomly says pineapples?!?!

[Chairman Doggo]

gork locktown

if you're scum you've played me well

[Not Chara]

i should have noticed. i wanted a claim from Sly first. oh well.

pedit: isn't flavour NAI with fakeclaims?

[Insomniacs]

i should have noticed. i wanted a claim from Sly first. oh well.

pedit: isn't flavour NAI with fakeclaims?

EIN is confTown per Titus

[Gorkington]

Sorry, I am confusing you with Blade Dancer.

I'm not Ein, Ed, Spiegel, or Black

[Not Chara]

ah.

[Not Chara]

and double ah.

[Gorkington]

if slysly is town theyre probably something important because they didnt claim though.

[Insomniacs]

Whelp then he is probably Spike then.

--Math

Otherwise that word Pineapples is SO out of place.

[Gorkington]

spike siegel.
is spike.
calm your bones.