In post 3023, Nauci wrote:Tw still hasn't answered why he said he was probably the nk for n1
I need BS to explain the paranoia though
oh I tactically ignored those questions because I was very unsubtly crumbing tpr
as it turns out I don't need those crumbs
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:47 pm
by brassherald
James Madison is the smallest American President, weighing about 100 pounds and being 5'4"
3021 was after the worst was hammered. Flip to come.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:56 pm
by brassherald
Night 3 now begins, and ends in (expired on 2018-07-22 07:00:00)
If everyone PMs me desire to do so, I will shorten the night.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:31 am
by brassherald
Start of Day 4
Good morning. I have bad news once more, despite another attempt to become president, Bernie Sanders of the democratic party will not be the next American President, I guess America just is not ready for an old Jewish man to be president. Maybe next we will let Larry David run.
Anyway, he was paired with Theodore Roosevelt
Town Tracker
Spoiler: Rolecard
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:46 am
by Nauci
Oh darn there goes my crazy theory. But also, YAY I'M ALIVE WOOOOOOO.
I wrote this yesterday and stayed up way past my bed time to post it at start of today and now I'm going the fuck to bed after posting my vote record kthxbai.
Game critical info bolded.
Rest you'll want to read too though.
Spoiler: I had the craziest theory:
Bernie fake claimed Tracker yesterday because he figured out that there is an unclaimed investigative role, and he didn't want that PR to CC The Worst because it would mean getting shot unnecessarily. So he claimed a tracker result to ensure a lynch on TW without the actual investigative outing themselves. He's too experienced and good of a player and had plenty of town and absolutely knew he didn't need to claim there if the only goal was to dunk the duck.
He walked it back because he got paranoid that he was wrong, and TW was actually the investigative he was expecting, so he did the weird BV voting, and made a post that basically said this.
Okay so that's my shockingly plausible tin foil hat.
Anyhoo...
If TW's partner is clever and shot me then I'm pasting this into the dead thread, hoping that our hero Bernie Sanders saves the democratic republic. Otherwise...
I'm the formerly unclaimed town investigative role (
Town Neapolitan
, to be specific)
who has been dying to spew but managed to keep it mostly in my pants thus far. I'm pretty sure I'm pasting into the dead thread though, because my 360 on Irrelephant D3, focus on TW's crumbing, and mostly inexplicable paranoia about BV beginning freshly on day 2, have made it very obvious to scum that I know things.
My president is Taft, who was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States after being POTUS. So I get to determine vanilla/not vanilla, which is kinda weaksauce for a chief SCOTUS Justice, but meh.
MathDino because he was weirdly quiet, so I thought he was either dropping PR tells or scummy as hell. I prayed and prayed for him to be a VT but alas, Not VT. Since I didn't want to unintentionally out a Town PR, I just pressed it but not super hard. BV's reactions weren't super scummy compared to mom/tw so I let it go for the time being to see if he'd do anything PR-like. He didn't.
BV is right though that my "BV's analysis hasn't been AI" wasn't genuine. That was largely because I got a Not VT check. BV your words were vvv good during your catchup and I otherwise would very well have fallen for it! But pressured you anyway because we must flip all the rocks.
Then I read that Neapolitan should really be green checking VTs and avoiding potential PRs. Oops.
Irrelephant because A: he was not well sorted yet, B: he's a very strong player who can contribute a ton if green checked, and C: even though I was town reading him, he's so good of a scum player I had to be sure.
Keyser Soze because he's also confusing the shit out of half of the game but I thought I'd get a VT clear here, and that he'd also be a very smart player with a green check. I don't have analysis here because I'm typing this up before I got my N3 result.
Oh and I crumbed it a bunch of times (and every subsequent VC), but no one had a chance of noticing the microscopic crumbs I threw in my vote count walls. I probably edited what font size and color I used there 30 times, paranoid I'd make it too obvious and get noticed before I wanted it noticed. #8686868 is too light! #111111 might be too dark, 105% font size is too obvious, 102 is to subtle!
The last scum is probably BV because
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He claimed 1-shot BP. In the context of this game, that's the least falsifiable claim: we can't be sure who scum shot at N1, and we can't ask him for results on anything. Funny that of all the different possibilities, he claimed one of the very few things that aren't falsifiable directly, except by process of elimination on how many scum there are.
My one potential read of the slot being a town 1SBP was if MathDino was baiting a shot to waste a scum NK, but none of the "Math got shot at N1" perspective seemed to have leaked into BV's posts if you reread his catch up. No sign of that perspective until 2821. This should have been a pervasive piece of information through which to view the game,
and conflicted with the hard town read of Gustavo
.
After all that talk about being so careful about laying down his vote, he "accidentally" hammers TW 7 minutes after Keyser laid down his vote.
TW and BV both delay for a long time before addressing the claims/pressure. TW was very clearly doing it to fish for reactions to "investigative role" and result on BV (or weird interaction with EP) to figure out the available claimspace. BV gave him way more potential credibility than made sense for his read of the worst/the game state/the English language.
If he's scum, then this was scum theater to tell TW that he thinks there's a Neapolitan in the game. I suspected him for very little explained reason but didn't dunk him, so it shouldn't have been hard to figure out (I am terrible at playing TPR).
Oh and I guess this is where he described basically exactly what he did to TW, without scum day chat.
Okay, this post and maybe even this one looks even more strange post TW/Mom flips (now that scum don't have daychat while trying to coordinate a fake claim). And of course, TW would have told his partner about the neighborhood w/ EP on N2...
He pushes me as a scum read when he thinks TW is scum. This is suuuuuuch a reach. Not only have I pushed/pressured TW since the beginning of d2 and skimmed like 70% of TW's games to case the hell out of him him and pinned his scum play down since like post 666.
He scum reads me for not explaining my town reads on Irrelephant/Skitter when he has basically done the same level of explanation for the same town reads, after town reading me for most of the day, with an aggressiveness that felt like panic about having their gambit ruined. Some of it was predicated on me-irrelephant being scum together, but doubled down on scum reading me despite thinking TW was definitely scum.
As mentioned in my case, TW hard bussed a teammate one of his games (and won for it, IIRC). Especially if they thought they'd get the last TPR for this gambit.
Okay I have hella anxiety about whether that was a dumb decision or not but it's too late now!
P.S. I'm kinda bummed out my crazy theory wasn't true. Oh wells.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:55 am
by Nauci
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Configuring this in a google sheet was the most cathartic and miserable thing I have ever not needed to do
Spoiler: wat m i doin wid my lyf
shoutouts to ghosts of mathdinos past
P.S. TW is vv fun to play w/
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:32 am
by Nauci
omg how did it copy the wrong color code
BERNIE'S NOT SCUM
sorry for the previous wall of inaccurate shit (and 1 dumb meme)
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:54 am
by Gustavo
Scum can’t win so I’m fine with a bv vote
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:56 am
by Irrelephant11
“The amount of effort I've put into this game is probably more than the rest of my games combined at this point, and I've basically ruined my ability to play scum. The shit I do for y'all!”
Yeah eventually this spewed your alignment (I got it D3 )
Great
VOTE: Blackvoid AKA the WIFOMiest slot in the game
And here I was hoping people would actually read/like my case! Or at least my glorious tribute to MathDino meme
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:01 am
by BlackVoid
Can people stop being dumb and voting someone who should be essentially clear after yesterday?
Okay, so Irrelephant and Keyser are basically confirmed town regardless of Nauci's alignment because there's only one scum left.
There are two people you should never be lynching - me and skitter. Skitter is obviously town. My interactions with TheWorst, my play in general and my meta pretty much all clear me. I need to go to work early today but when I come back, I'll delineate exactly why. Removing myself from the POE pool pretty much ensures town win.
Scum are between {Nauci, Gustavo, Not_Mafia, errantparabola}. I kind of like this new development because I'm townreading errant and Gustavo. So, this pretty much leaves Nauci and Not_Mafia as the only potentially likely scum.
Initial instinct is that Nauci probably wouldn't fake-claim Neapolitan at this point. I'm not sure how much to believe this so I'll look through her posts again. But I feel pretty sure Not_Mafia has to be the final scum.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:08 am
by Nauci
In post 3037, BlackVoid wrote:Can people stop being dumb and voting someone who should be essentially clear after yesterday?
Okay, so Irrelephant and Keyser are basically confirmed town regardless of Nauci's alignment because there's only one scum left.
There are two people you should never be lynching - me and skitter. Skitter is obviously town. My interactions with TheWorst, my play in general and my meta pretty much all clear me. I need to go to work early today but when I come back, I'll delineate exactly why. Removing myself from the POE pool pretty much ensures town win.
Scum are between {Nauci, Gustavo, Not_Mafia, errantparabola}. I kind of like this new development because I'm townreading errant and Gustavo. So, this pretty much leaves Nauci and Not_Mafia as the only potentially likely scum.
Initial instinct is that Nauci probably wouldn't fake-claim Neapolitan at this point. I'm not sure how much to believe this so I'll look through her posts again. But I feel pretty sure Not_Mafia has to be the final scum.
I think you should engage with my list of 15 Reasons Why You Are Scum for fun and games
How does this "essentially clear" mechanic work, eh? By the way, this post is much, MUCH funnier in context.
Why did I put this behind a spoiler originally? Math I hope you're reading this thread. This one's for you. And insomnia.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:09 am
by Nauci
In post 3037, BlackVoid wrote:Can people stop being dumb and voting someone who should be essentially clear after yesterday?
Okay, so Irrelephant and Keyser are basically confirmed town regardless of Nauci's alignment because there's only one scum left.
There are two people you should never be lynching - me and skitter. Skitter is obviously town. My interactions with TheWorst, my play in general and my meta pretty much all clear me. I need to go to work early today but when I come back, I'll delineate exactly why. Removing myself from the POE pool pretty much ensures town win.
Scum are between {Nauci, Gustavo, Not_Mafia, errantparabola}. I kind of like this new development because I'm townreading errant and Gustavo. So, this pretty much leaves Nauci and Not_Mafia as the only potentially likely scum.
Initial instinct is that Nauci probably wouldn't fake-claim Neapolitan at this point. I'm not sure how much to believe this so I'll look through her posts again. But I feel pretty sure Not_Mafia has to be the final scum.
I'd like to append this post as a 16th reason why BV is scum
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:22 am
by Nauci
Wasn't NM the only one you were townreading out of nm/me/irrelephant/keyser/errant yesterday?
Oh that's right 4 of those have been basically ruled out
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:24 am
by BlackVoid
I'm going to engage with your multiple reasons after I come back from work tonight. I don't have time to write a super long wall right now. TheWorst knew he was likely going down and he needed to take out a threatening townie who wasn't being as widely townread as he should be before he went down to put scum in a better place. Guiltying a partner at that point is essentially throwing the game. He was never going to survive by himself. But delaying his lynch for a day to set his partner up is much better scenario for scum.
I didn't think my slot would have been shot N1 based on play because all my pred did was rap. But later I saw him claiming he wanted to lay low and figured he might have been because scum thought he was a PR. Occam's razor, more likely my slot was shot because they thought he was a PR than that Gustavo's slot was shot.
I think Not_Mafia is more likely scum than you at this point. I think my interpretation of his posts was wrong. That's probably where we should be lynching today.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:29 am
by BlackVoid
Someone please unvote until I have time to sit down and figure this game out. I'm at L-2 and I don't want any chance of somebody else coming in, voting me, and Not_Mafia being able to hammer.
Unless something stupid happens like me getting quicklynched, town very likely has this in the bag. I just lost a towngame that I should have won and it'll be annoying to lose again if something has been overlooked.
Stop carelessly throwing your votes around putting someone at L-2 in the first few hours of the day phase. I'm going to go in-depth and address all the suspicion on me later tonight.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:30 am
by Nauci
In post 3041, BlackVoid wrote:I'm going to engage with your multiple reasons after I come back from work tonight. I don't have time to write a super long wall right now. TheWorst knew he was likely going down and he needed to take out a threatening townie who wasn't being as widely townread as he should be before he went down to put scum in a better place. Guiltying a partner at that point is essentially throwing the game. He was never going to survive by himself. But delaying his lynch for a day to set his partner up is much better scenario for scum.
I didn't think my slot would have been shot N1 based on play because all my pred did was rap. But later I saw him claiming he wanted to lay low and figured he might have been because scum thought he was a PR. Occam's razor, more likely my slot was shot because they thought he was a PR than that Gustavo's slot was shot.
I think Not_Mafia is more likely scum than you at this point. I think my interpretation of his posts was wrong. That's probably where we should be lynching today.
And here I was hoping people would actually read/like my case! Or at least my glorious tribute to MathDino meme
You’ve put way too much effort and idk why. Those VCs and stuff were so hard to read for me. Tbh I haven’t read most of it but I don’t have an issue with that vote.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:32 am
by BlackVoid
I don't "still" clear Gus. I've never "cleared" Gus. He was a strong townread based purely on his play and his predecessor's play. Other people have cleared him based on the NK. I've never used it as a reason for thinking he's town. Now that he's one of the only people who can be scum, I'll relook at him but I doubt that'll change my read. There are some points where he just threw in the towel when he wasn't getting his Shoshin lynch and I don't think it's possible scum do that.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:33 am
by BlackVoid
One of you guys unvote me for now so nothing dumb happens please. You can put your votes back on if you're still convinced I'm scum at the end of D4.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:26 am
by BlackVoid
Just read all of Nauci's posts. As perplexing as Nauci is, I think she's town. I'll deconstruct that post when I get back from work in around 10 hours. I don't really see myself lynching anyone other than Not_Mafia.
VOTE: Not_Mafia
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:35 am
by Errantparabola
NM is strongly preferable to BV as a lynch. I likely cant be 100% present until Monday. I think BV is town. This game is pretty much on lock assuming Nauci clears herself by dying
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:37 am
by Errantparabola
VOTE: not mafia
As much as I want to suspect that scum is in someone we’re all townreading, I just don’t see it being other than not mafia with Nauci’s clears
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