Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[mbaki]

He's scum, I don't really care if he thinks you aren't a commuter if you're scum. I personally think there's no way scum fake claims that and its clearly a real role claim (maybe without the modifier) regardless, and this is just him buying a day for Oka by mislynching me.

[Creature]

Who are you talking about?

[mbaki]

DDL.

[Creature]

Oh, the "(maybe without the modifier)" confused me.

[Moongrass]

PHASE DEADLINE: 0 days, 12 hours, 33 minutes

Hi, who's here?

It's unfortunate that kmd can't be more active at this point of the game, which makes him a liability going into tomorrow.

I've given town multiple perspectives from which to look at the game: Traitor buddy, late game scum positioning, possible teams, VCA/NKA (I haven't given my thoughts, but I've posted the information for players to analyze), mass-claim and set-up spec. I've also pushed mbaki, oka, and Creature, if there are tone/intention readers here.

Because I won't be here, I want to let town decide today who it is they are lynching. I'm fine voting with consensus.

[Varsoon]

I'm here.
Who we lynchin, champ?

[Moongrass]

Given that Varsoon, Creature, and Oka are connected in terms of claims and game balance, it makes sense to allow you to attempt to resolve your actions overnight. One scenario to be wary of, is if there is a scum RB. A scum RB will muddy the waters of any results.

I can see mbaki being scum, however I've grown fond of them as AtE is a weakness of mine. I can see possibly DDL/kmd being scum if mbaki happens to flip town. In that scenario it makes sense to lynch DDL, after questionning kmd, as I still can see DDL/mbaki being SvT or SvS.

Currently I'm townreading: Everyone except the people I pushed today. I would like to lynch Oka because he could be buddies with most people here, but I think mbaki would possibly give us more information for Lylo, should either of them flip town.

Mbaki/Oka
Creature/Oka
DDL/Oka
Mbaki/DDL
DDL/Creature

Are the possible teams I'm seeing. I could be wrong with kmd essentially being a wildcard with little info, although a scum mbaki flip clears him imo.

I am leaning towards voting mbaki.

What do you think Varsoon?

[Creature]

Mbaki/Oka
Creature/Oka
DDL/Oka
Mbaki/DDL
DDL/Creature

Are the possible teams I'm seeing.

I can't be scum with mbaki?

[Kmd4390]

Hi, who's here?

Me. What do you think of mbaki looking into varsoon's role to clear him? What about drdoolittle's comment about a smoking gun that varsoon is town?

[Varsoon]

Oka's in more of those solves than Mbaki but whatever
Lay a vote?

[Moongrass]

[x Zquote="In post 3031, Moongrass"]Mbaki/Oka
Creature/Oka
DDL/Oka
Mbaki/DDL
DDL/Creature

Are the possible teams I'm seeing.

I can't be scum with mbaki?[/quote]

Possibly - Imbaki preemptively defending their interactions with you, seems a little too obvious. Why do you ask?

[Moongrass]

Hi, who's here?

Me. What do you think of mbaki looking into varsoon's role to clear him? What about drdoolittle's comment about a smoking gun that varsoon is town?

Can you quote these please?

Who are you scumreading, kmd?

[Creature]

Why do you ask?

Thought you listed the only possible teams.

[Moongrass]

Why do you ask?

Thought you listed the only possible teams.

No, I'm not a scumhunting god, I'm just listing who I can see as likely based on what I've observed today (missing interactions with knd). At the end of the day, it's up to the town to accept/reject my ideas based on their own opinions.

[Moongrass]

I want Kmd to list his reads before we end the day.

[Kmd4390]

Moon,

mbaki's:

Hold up

why wouldn't UB inherit rolecop?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... sal_Backup

Oh. This is actually good though, because if Varsoon is telling the truth about his role that means he is town.

drdoolitte's:

@ Oka see this sequence. Suppose Varsoon was not backup, and lied about visiting and getting no action on creature. Then if Suka's n3 investigation was actually on creature, OR if suka's n3 action is on varsoon, then his claim is immediately poked through. This seems to me like a smoking gun varsoon is town.

Who are you scumreading, kmd?

Mbaki is probably my strongest scum read and the above is the only thing holding me back although it makes some sense if Varsoon is also scum. I can also see Drdoolittle.

[Moongrass]

Mbaki is probably my strongest scum read and the above is the only thing holding me back although it makes some sense if Varsoon is also scum. I can also see Drdoolittle.

Ok. Could you please rank everyone here from towniest to scummiest?

[Kmd4390]

Moon
Creature
Oka
Varsoon
Drdoolittle
Mbaki

[Kmd4390]

We should mass claim
I'm fairly certain we might be able to get a lynch in the right direction with that.

Mbaki can go first.

Aight then. DDL claim first.

Last three should be mbaki, Creature, then me?

OH WOW IT'S LIKE OKA IS FULL OF SHIT

Actually, what made you go from mbaki claiming first to just before you and Creature?

I'm still trying to work out who the second scum is, however Creature does seem to have a point about a possible Oka/Varsoon team due to the amount of what appears to be flailing going on ITT

I'm curious how you see that with the way they've gone back and forth. If it was theater, why would Oka even point out what he saw as fake rage from Varsoon?

I'm quite concerned that these early posts from the scum traitor are signalling to the scum team, assuming they were aware they had a traitor.

This was my thought too when we talked about that, but I think we established that it didn't make sense for the traitor to crumb.

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Hitting submit because I'm doing things on multiple tabs and don't wanna lose my post lol.

[Moongrass]

Moon
Creature
Oka
Varsoon
Drdoolittle
Mbaki

Kmd's reads make me wonder if. DDL/mbaki is TvT.

[Moongrass]

VOTE: OkaPoka

[Varsoon]

VOTE: Oka
Aight then

[mbaki]

Moon
Creature
Oka
Varsoon
Drdoolittle
Mbaki

Kmd's reads make me wonder if. DDL/mbaki is TvT.

I thought about it, and had him as a scum read before today. Don't know. Dann and others scum read him hard. But, I am very sure on DDL and I am very sure only one of the VT claims is scum which makes him likely town in my eyes.

I'm going to be around for the next ~8 hours, though not sober for all of it.

[mbaki]

VOTE: OkaPoka

I'll vote this soon if DDL wagon doesn't kick, which I'm doubting at this point.

[mbaki]

Moongrass
Varsoon


Creature

Kmd
Oka
DDL

This is about where I am at.