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In post 3022, Dunnstral wrote:Pops how does your town play differ from your scum play btw

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In post 3022, Dunnstral wrote:Pops how does your town play differ from your scum play btw

Hmmm I appoint MariaR and Shadoweh Subject Matter Experts for this topic

I am bussy to the point that I overperform my reads as town, which is something I want to work on. OkaPoka bus was correct but shading Titus's slot in Hope Plus One before her slot was even in danger was bad play I think. I still think bussing is an underrated play but it's not as underrated as I'm treating it. This is just the first thing I thought of, it's not particularly LAMIST since I did not get my lynch of choice D1, D1 was an ugly stasis break.

I have less fun as scum and have to hide that.

I think I'm a little too scared to choose a single post and treat it as a "gotcha" as scum, while it's something I will do as town. As town I'll sometime find a post I insist is opening statements, cross examination, and closing arguments all in one go for a slot, like in the last large normal I finished and a completed game from years ago I was looking at in my iso the other day. So that's a trust tell to fix. Maybe you can interpret what that maybe means about my play in general.

I withhold and present townreads and scumreads with different timing as town vs. scum I think, as scum I have some kind of agenda and an idea of how those reads might be perceived. As town I present my reads as I develop them, but I'll retain them for town motivated reasons at time, like if I want to see a trend of behavior continue to the point where I feel it is more indicting, or if I have a townread and I don't see a way in the gamestate it benefits the dayplay yet versus might get the slot shot. An example of this is Ank's hypothesis I wouldn't have towncased her in Starry Night as town, I have know way of knowing for sure whether I would have but she's probably right Ank is pretty smart and also likes to eat food a lot.

In post 3022, Dunnstral wrote:Pops how does your town play differ from your scum play btw

I tend to submit fewer nightkills as town, if that helps.

Game status

Record of toDay's failed proposals:

Spoiler: AP's proposal

• Night 2 Bulletproof
  : apthet
  
• Captain
  : AP
  
• Chronomage
  : Hidden Happiness
  
• Doublevoter
  : Bingle
  
• Neighbour
  : Gamma Emerald
  
• Day 3 Post Restricted
  : momo
  
• Psychologist
  : popsofctown
  
• Revisor
  : CheekyTeeky
  
• Night 3 Compulsive Role Caller
  : Dunnstral
  
• Even-Night Tracker
  : pisskop
  
• Treestump
  : Creature
  
• Compulsive Quitter
  : Lil Uzi Vert

For

(2): Hidden Happiness, CheekyTeeky

Against

(6): popsofctown, AP, Bingle, Lil Uzi Vert, pisskop, Dunnstral

Not voting

(4): momo, apthet, Gamma Emerald, Creature

Current proposal

(by Bingle):

• Night 2 Bulletproof
  : Bingle
  
• Captain
  : AP
  
• Chronomage
  : Gamma Emerald
  
• Doublevoter
  : Dunnstral
  
• Neighbour
  : apthet
  
• Day 3 Post Restricted
  : Lil Uzi Vert
  
• Psychologist
  : popsofctown
  
• Revisor
  : Hidden Happiness
  
• Night 3 Compulsive Role Caller
  : CheekyTeeky
  
• Even-Night Tracker
  : pisskop
  
• Treestump
  : momo
  
• Compulsive Quitter
  : Creature

For

(4): Bingle, Lil Uzi Vert, momo, AP

Against

(0):

nobody

Not voting

(8): apthet, Gamma Emerald, Creature, popsofctown, pisskop, Dunnstral, Hidden Happiness, CheekyTeeky

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(9): momo, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, pisskop, apthet, Dunnstral, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(3): Hidden Happiness, AP, Bingle

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 7 players vote for it.
Deadline is currently 06:00 UTC on Thursday 8 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-08 06:00:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

momo

(1): popsofctown

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

Whatever, would rather this game end in a disaster like schadd's mystery box

VOTE: For

Sorry callforjudgement, but this kind of mechanism makes dayplay a complete crapshoot.

:/
Playing against wincon is not mafia
Pretending to play against wincon to play to wincon, still not mafia

I guess it doesn't matter, we're lynching creature anyway, I don't have to figure out how to read these not-mafia tea leaves.

It is probably better to kill Creature with a different proposal, if Creature is scum there is something in this allocation he likes, otherwise scum!creature votes against.

VOTE: AP
Everyone get a vote out for the second lynch in your next post
rapido rapido

I assume that’s a stump vote, yeah? I’ll update when I’m no longer mobile.

VOTE: AP
VOTE: Against

popsofctown just a question: does it matter to you that I don't townread you?

TBH I have no idea what's the most ideal proposal, so shuffle it how you want.

Everyone agrees Creature flips today.
Use VOTE: to determine what other player flips.
We can determine which of the two chosen players continues to post this game after we have the two.

@apthet: in the gamestate I think you are an easy TR with a power role that has some utility and someone is going to shoot you so it's not particularly important.

But aside from the gamestate I wanna be friends and it hurts my feelings that you don't townread me.

Guys Creature's post could easily be scum trying to manipulate us as WIFOM and should be viewed as NAI.

And pops, I thought we agreed upon treestumping me?

In post 3038, momo wrote:Guys Creature's post could easily be scum trying to manipulate us as WIFOM and should be viewed as NAI.

And pops, I thought we agreed upon treestumping me?

tbh the longer the game goes on the more I think Critter is doing just that.

Like, his posting in contrast to his posting style.

it isnt quite syncing. he has done this as town in lylo, but this isnt lylo and i dont see him doing it here in this spot as town.

In post 3038, momo wrote:Guys Creature's post could easily be scum trying to manipulate us as WIFOM and should be viewed as NAI.

And pops, I thought we agreed upon treestumping me?

There are 5 votes for you across both options in bingle's last VC. I am holding out hope that people will agree it's bad EV to flip you when you don't work as scum with Creature. pk was one of the people voting you and his last post seems to indicate an even higher confidence in Creature redflip, so that may be one of the people I'm able to convince that we lynch somewhere else.

I have a special quote for everyone, let me go get it.

In post 1395, GuyInFreezer wrote:By the way I have developed this wonderful D1 tell relating to RC.

If the player
1. knows RC
2. goes hail mary on him D1

In post 1396, GuyInFreezer wrote:The player is most likely town.

town!GuyInFreezer correctly clearing 2 slots against unflipped scum!RC in Hope Plus One

In post 3038, momo wrote:Guys Creature's post could easily be scum trying to manipulate us as WIFOM and should be viewed as NAI.

And pops, I thought we agreed upon treestumping me?

Aw how boring

In post 3039, pisskop wrote:

In post 3038, momo wrote:Guys Creature's post could easily be scum trying to manipulate us as WIFOM and should be viewed as NAI.

And pops, I thought we agreed upon treestumping me?

tbh the longer the game goes on the more I think Critter is doing just that.

Vote for then.

In post 3040, pisskop wrote:he has done this as town in lylo, but this isnt lylo and i dont see him doing it here in this spot as town.

I never selfvoted in LyLo.

lol you all blindly trusting AP and Jingle

In post 3046, Creature wrote:

In post 3040, pisskop wrote:he has done this as town in lylo, but this isnt lylo and i dont see him doing it here in this spot as town.

I never selfvoted in LyLo.

I have, twice in the past week!

Some points have to be hammered home (yeet) to be effective