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like think about it: its a 12p setup which means evens which is completely useless vs an 11p setup

the 1-shot vigi is like a pseudo "free lynch" + ic

however 2-shot BP basically makes the 1-shot vigi a lot worse if it hits bp because now its like a neopolitan 11p setup which is scumsided

the value of the 2-shot BP is solely in the hands of a few players who can hard carry and project town, other than that its purely negative utility as neopolitan false guilities it and its anti synergistic with the 1-shot vigi

anyways if what you said about eyestott is true, then scum's plan was 100% to lynch eyestott yesterday, how did that plan fall through?

Okay, fair, I don't think it's worth setup-speccing each on is viable.

If I'd followed my original setup-spec I would've lynched eyestott yesterday.

In post 3027, OkaPoka wrote:anyways if what you said about eyestott is true, then scum's plan was 100% to lynch eyestott yesterday, how did that plan fall through?

I reevaluated and changed my mind on eyestott, he kinda obvtowned himself with the way he played the last day.

In post 3029, Paragon wrote:

In post 3027, OkaPoka wrote:anyways if what you said about eyestott is true, then scum's plan was 100% to lynch eyestott yesterday, how did that plan fall through?

I reevaluated and changed my mind on eyestott, he kinda obvtowned himself with the way he played the last day.

if that's true and scum loses the numbers to lynch eyestott, then there would be a clear shift in approach by scum, probably to play for 3p lylo

Oogle, Churros was voting for eyestott yesterday and was to getting Taly joining him. Taly at several points said he was just thinking about the vote but would be joining him one way or the other. Why does Churros on a whim decide to bus his partner rather than follow out the game winning mislynch on Taly?

*with Taly on eyestott

shouldn't it be weird to you that churros was fishing for taly's vote and when it obviously wasn't going to happen easily, he goes for the safer, antispew play?

let me turn this around, why wasn't churros fishing for aloratom's vote after you flipped on eyestott?

In post 2825, Taly wrote:i think

para

is probably always town here, town in respect to

churros

and town in respect to

eye

i dont think

Eye/Churros

is SvS or TvT

PoE leads to this

VOTE: Aloratom

In post 2848, Churros wrote:VOTE: Alo

Let's just end this day already at least

Eye feel free to hammer this if it's Taly + Eye and I'm a silly person while paragon is GOAT

If Taly is town I'm nomming myself as GOAT though

Oh, I got that wrong actually. Need to read back on these events.

Like imagine this world

Churros/Taly scum, paragon indicated he was going to lynch eyestott so they save eyestott for game winning mislynch.

But then paragon is like, nah, eyestott is town. So scum are probably going to try a bit to see if the original plan can work, they have to convince aloratom to lynch eyestott. Do you see churros trying to work with aloratom to lynch eyestott?

Alternatively Churros/Aloratom scum, " " " " " "

" " " " " ", they have to convince taly to lynch eyestott. Do you see churros trying to work with taly to lynch eyestott?

In post 2825, Taly wrote:i think

para

is probably always town here, town in respect to

churros

and town in respect to

eye

i dont think

Eye/Churros

is SvS or TvT

PoE leads to this

VOTE: Aloratom

In post 2836, Churros wrote:Taly attacking eyesott so much only to vote Alo and say that maybe it's me + Alo is quite puzzling but the truth is I care less about this game by each second so I may be fine with just lynching alo here.

Like the dynamics of 5p lylo for scum is quite simple. You need to convince one townie to sheep you on the wrong lynch or you need to disassociate with your partner as much as possible.

And if eyestott is left alive, I'm betting the plan was to lynch eyestott as evidenced by churros voting eyestott. So probably~ they want to convince you first. If you don't budge, they convince the other townie. Why are they wasting time convincing scum? You don't win convincing someone who you can ask to lolhammer in scum pt

and if taly is being an ass and churros realizes it won't work, next best plan is to disassociate, aka bus

In post 3036, OkaPoka wrote:Like imagine this world

Churros/Taly scum, paragon indicated he was going to lynch eyestott so they save eyestott for game winning mislynch.

But then paragon is like, nah, eyestott is town. So scum are probably going to try a bit to see if the original plan can work, they have to convince aloratom to lynch eyestott. Do you see churros trying to work with aloratom to lynch eyestott?

Alternatively Churros/Aloratom scum, " " " " " "

" " " " " ", they have to convince taly to lynch eyestott. Do you see churros trying to work with taly to lynch eyestott?

Good point. Churros spent a lot of time working/talking to Taly yesterday. He was convinced on both eyestott and Aloratom scum but spent a lot more time talking to eyestott, although eyestott was a lot more active.

Aloratom, where you at?

In post 3038, OkaPoka wrote:Like the dynamics of 5p lylo for scum is quite simple. You need to convince one townie to sheep you on the wrong lynch or you need to disassociate with your partner as much as possible.

And if eyestott is left alive, I'm betting the plan was to lynch eyestott as evidenced by churros voting eyestott. So probably~ they want to convince you first. If you don't budge, they convince the other townie. Why are they wasting time convincing scum? You don't win convincing someone who you can ask to lolhammer in scum pt

In post 3039, OkaPoka wrote:and if taly is being an ass and churros realizes it won't work, next best plan is to disassociate, aka bus

Ja, you make a lot of sense here. How much of the previous day phase did you read?

ive skimmed bits and pieces but its easy to see the pieces when you know the puzzle

and well, im basically cheating here

i know who is scum mechanically

i am a completely fresh face who read parts of the game knowing exactly who scum were and have had previous meta experience with one of the mafiosos

scum could never have catered to my worldview and warped my view of the game

its basically if a spectator in a spoilered dead thread replaced in, which is why my view of the game makes sense and is clear and probably 90% accurate

replacements are cheating btw if you replace out ur a cheater

Lul, who do you have meta experience with? Aloratom? You got any scumtells on him?

But yeah, replacements coming in with a completely different view/explanation can feel like cheating at times. Unavoidable part of the game though.

ANYWAYS

i have little investment in this game, if this is what changes your mind alo probably deserves to win lol

so i pray you find your own reasons to vote alo over me or something, im not going to read much more unless prompted so im not going to block you from coming to your takes

pedit: no i know churros

Maybe I will roleplay to keep the integrity of the game.

What say you ?

see knows im town now

But the choice must make is now an ethical choice

To play to wincondition or to preserve the of the game

, make this easier and claim scum and then make this an argument about preserving the integrity of the game. It's your best chance to survive if you are to be honest and transparent. Argue why you deserve to win! Before I become reincarnated and thus I have upheld the integrity of the game with my excellent .

, you might ask why are you doing this? Why are you helping me to win?

Well I just want to know how accurate I was on your gameplan tbh. Call it a

If you do not accept the deal with me

I shall have no choice but to punish thee

So Aloratom, make a pact with me

For Faust is the true devil - not Lucy