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Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:04 pm**

like if pooky is a town vig who is a vig shooting n2 is a throw

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:11 pm**

does anyone know off hand if there's been a strongman in a micro in the last year?

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:14 pm**

honestly I think the only value my role can play now is that if you guys accept me as town - scum will have to use a NK on me as I will draw vs scum in a 1v1 endgame but that would require you guys to actually believe me.

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:14 pm**

if you all accept that I have to be town - scum have to NK me because they can't let me get to 3p lylo because even if we miss there, I would shoot the last scum in the endgame

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:15 pm**

There's something so great about being asked to believe in pooky the magical bear

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:16 pm**

so the way I see this playing out is worst protects skitter every night - basically will keep both of them alive - unless scum kill twice there and we try to sort the scum out from the VTs.

If tw is scum( I think this is unlikely) then they won't be able to kill skitter so we'd effectively be forcing scum to kill either me or in the VT pool.

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:17 pm**

The problem is that to accept that plan, we also have to carte blanche accept you as town who will be the final person standing and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:19 pm**

I think if the entire town accepts me as conf-town the scum would be forced to shoot me in order to have a chance of winning so we should be good

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:19 pm**

unless scum think I can't shoot in which case I guess they just treat me as another townie but I don't think they take the risk

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:21 pm**

... at a bare (bear) minimum I think there's enough merit in this that I don't want to eliminate Pooky right now

pedit: yeah I also strongly doubt that scum let town!you live with a x% chance you're a full blown vig.

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:51 pm**

In post 3024, the worst wrote:Trying to decide if I would value noelim and having Pooky shoot (/me die???) more than I would value an elim atp

Yeah, that might be a great idea. We can no execute and leash him to shoot whomever the majority wants because having both an execution plus a vig would only help scum.

@SS what do you think of this idea?

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:10 pm**

@duckling, why would you want Pooky to shoot you though, that part I’m not getting?

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:28 pm**

In post 3035, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3024, the worst wrote:Trying to decide if I would value noelim and having Pooky shoot (/me die???) more than I would value an elim atp
Yeah, that might be a great idea. We can no execute and leash him to shoot whomever the majority wants because having both an execution plus a vig would only help scum.

@SS what do you think of this idea?

If we’re wrong on it being exactly djstr/Pooky.

Actually, we should 100% not rush this in any case. So, I’m not good at mech, so maybe I didn’t completely think it though.

I don’t think no execution is a terrible idea but I just don’t want to be wrong wrt to Pooky, if we can confirm his role.

Posted: **Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:23 pm**

Votecount 2.03

the worst (1) -

skitter30

PookeyTheMagicalBear (1) -

Datisi

Not Voting (5) -

dsjstr, Something_Smart, PookyTheMagicalBear, the worst, Raven Branwen

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-08-20 06:50:00).

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:47 am**

In post 3036, Raven Branwen wrote:@duckling, why would you want Pooky to shoot you though, that part I’m not getting?

I don't want Pooky to shoot me. I want to be a be the scum nk!

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:53 am**

In post 3027, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:honestly I think the only value my role can play now is that if you guys accept me as town - scum will have to use a NK on me as I will draw vs scum in a 1v1 endgame but that would require you guys to actually believe me.

pooky: i don't know if i'm a blank or not
also pooky: as a vigilante i will definitely draw vs scum in a 1v1 endgame

good one yes

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:54 am**

In post 3026, the worst wrote:does anyone know off hand if there's been a strongman in a micro in the last year?

there's been at least one (micro 909)

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:55 am**

In post 3031, the worst wrote:The problem is that to accept that plan, we also have to carte blanche accept you as town who will be the final person standing and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Well. that’s why I proposed a leash, if he shoots anyone else. it would be a scumclaim basically. It depends on how confident we our on who is most likely to be scum but I think Pooky’s role could possibly be confirmable. Because I tl him slightly after ISOing him in coalition, I would prefer to confirm him if possible.

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:57 am**

In post 3039, the worst wrote:
In post 3036, Raven Branwen wrote:@duckling, why would you want Pooky to shoot you though, that part I’m not getting?
I don't want Pooky to shoot me. I want to be a be the scum nk!

Oh sorry, I misread. D’oh

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:09 am**

In post 3027, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:honestly I think the only value my role can play now is that if you guys accept me as town - scum will have to use a NK on me as I will draw vs scum in a 1v1 endgame but that would require you guys to actually believe me.

In post 3028, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if you all accept that I have to be town - scum have to NK me because they can't let me get to 3p lylo because even if we miss there, I would shoot the last scum in the endgame

But you’re not sure you’re not a blank vig, is this correct?

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:13 am**

In post 2985, Something_Smart wrote:enomis was a blank vig. I'd be surprised if Micc didn't clarify that Pooky was a blank vig, because they certainly are.

I’m not familiar with that game but why even have a blank vig in a setup? I’ve heard of modified bgs before but never a blank vig.

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:14 am**

i played in that game, it's a role madness chaos game where there's 3-5 viginaltes, and each has a 50% chance of being a blank viginalte. of course, the vigis themselves are not aware whether they're a blank or not.

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:15 am**

vigilante*, i can't spell. also the person he's claiming to be was a blank in that game, but the role PM doesn't say that.

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:19 am**

In post 3041, Datisi wrote:
In post 3026, the worst wrote:does anyone know off hand if there's been a strongman in a micro in the last year?
there's been at least one (micro 909)

Welcome, [Playername]. You are a Mafia 1-Shot Strongman.

You are a member of the Mafia, along with X, who is a Mafia Goon. You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

Once per game you may strongkill a player, overriding any protection they might have.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name or by posting in your PT.

@mod how would a potential strongman affect a bg? Bgs aren’t like docs so I don’t see how a hypothetical strongman would affect anything.

Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:24 am**

In post 3046, Datisi wrote:i played in that game, it's a role madness chaos game where there's 3-5 viginaltes, and each has a 50% chance of being a blank viginalte. of course, the vigis themselves are not aware whether they're a blank or not.

In post 3047, Datisi wrote:vigilante*, i can't spell. also the person he's claiming to be was a blank in that game, but the role PM doesn't say that.

Yeah, there’s obviously some swing in this: you don’t have a lover, tw doesn’t have a neighbour etc. But I see your point, it’s possible he could be bluffing but then why not just say he vigged N1 but it failed? Why claim he just didn’t try? That’s the part that I’m not getting.

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