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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:31 am
by Noraa
I think all the prs r town bc as people have pointed out, there's a hole in town power if not.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:49 am
by Datisi
In post 3004, Noraa wrote:VERY ++++ point. If ur scum, smh ur making my conftowns more and more conftown.
lmao sorry what?
In post 3006, TheGoldenParadox wrote:tbh noraa won't be the nightkill in any case; she's proved helpful for scum. it'll almost definitely be ico because he can't self-target
ok can we stop with the "lol town vig helping scum" jokes because they're like, the opposite of helpful right now
In post 3014, Noraa wrote:btw why should I holster if user is town? that means scum team is datisi/alonzo
ok why you should holster is
- there's the "easy mode" solution to this game: scum is all in username/alonzo/datisi, we murder both scum before it's too late, pop champagne town victory etc etc
- however, there's the "hard mode" solution in which not all scum are in that pool, and There's Something Wrong In The Village, and a misvig tonight most likely ends the game in scum victory
- if username flips town, from y'all's pov, it can still be easy mode because alonzo/datisi is viable
- *however* i have the luxury of knowing my role PM is green, which means that the game automatically enters hard mode
- hard mode is still solvable in 5p lylo. it's not good odds, but odds *exist*. as opposed if you vig me (or shit, even town!alonzo, if by some insanity it's bob/tgp) the odds vanish and the game is over

like, fmpov it should prooooobably (though not guaranteed!) be fine to vig alonzo but (1) if username were to flip town i would like to relook this game once again rather than just saying he's scum and (2) i know you don't fully trust me and i wouldn't want to be telling you to vig someone else if that's likely to make you vig
me
instead so like

if we get a green flip today you should holster

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:02 am
by Noraa
what if user flips red?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:06 am
by TheGoldenParadox
shoot alonzo

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:06 am
by Noraa
why alonzo? I want to shoot datisi

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:08 am
by TheGoldenParadox
if alonzo is scum we win

if alonzo is town, then (almost definitely) ico and alonzo are dead by daybreak and it's 3v1 mylo with {me, bob, noraa, datisi} and at that point we go with datisi

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:08 am
by TheGoldenParadox
datisi is +town so if you don't shoot alonzo holstering is better

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:09 am
by Noraa
I don't think so. being + town rn is a great way to win the game

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:10 am
by Datisi
because usename/datisi makes no sense?

pedit: surely this is not username/tgp
it can't be

ppedit: s i g h

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:11 am
by Alonzo
In post 3021, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 2725, Alonzo wrote:I just wonder why no follow up from scum on TGP in the knowledge of icos protect order?
In post 2737, Alonzo wrote:ICo has varying degrees of equity depending on your stance
tries to put ico back into the scumpool
In post 2743, Alonzo wrote:ICo self protects , noraa shoots ICO, Bob follows tgp?
proposes a plan in full knowledge of a scum roleblocker that would massively backfire if scum just roleblocker ico
In post 2813, Alonzo wrote:Are you willing to lose and hold your hands up and say ' damn, scum! Noraa played me like a fiddle' or not @ tho?
In post 2823, Alonzo wrote::?
In post 2819, TheGoldenParadox wrote:HOW IS NORAA SCUM ALONZO

Noraas iso reads ' stay the fuck out of my way or I shoot you' to me
tries to put noraa back into the limpool
In post 2852, Alonzo wrote:Answer me this @tgp why is Ico town?

Because you don't want a doc mislynch/ vig, or something deeper?
In post 2853, Alonzo wrote:Mechanically icos not safe before you hot me with that.
desperately tries, after it is been very clearly established that ico is town, to get ico back into poe

alonzo is seeming very antitown here
Icos maybe town, but he's playing like not maf if not maf didn't pick up his prods.
Mechanically he's safe. Lucky him.

I already stated I'm in noraas pocket , the post you referenced is me stating my belief that noraas iso could well be that of a three shot vig.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:11 am
by Noraa
username/datisi doesn't make sense?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:12 am
by Noraa
if user flips red, I kill datisi. I don't think alonzo is scum.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:13 am
by Datisi
username's been aligning to execute me since yesterday? tf are we doing here if we're scum

pedit: ...
i'm debating with myself whether i have stength to argue here

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:14 am
by Noraa
does bussing just like not exist?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:15 am
by Noraa
I think its a datisi/user solve

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:17 am
by Noraa
Datisi literally agrees with me that everyone is cleared except himself, user, and alonzo yet he tells me to holster if user flips green. From his perspective if he is green, he will say no fucking no the solve is user/alonzo all the way.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:18 am
by Datisi
there's bussing and there's "i'm gonna softly sus my partner while my other partner goes down quietly for ??? profit???"

though i can tell there's no use for me arguing with you
if ico/tgp/maybe bob can knock sense into you, then good
if not, then shoot me because i was either getting executed the next day or scum would bring us both into lylo/mylo for ez win

pedit: did you not read

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:21 am
by Datisi
yeah, i think it's most likely username/alonzo because others have pretty strong reasons to be town
but i've seen insaner shit happen in mafia so like

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:21 am
by Noraa
But u agreed with all the TRs so u shouldnt expect user to even flip green to begin with :/

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:22 am
by Noraa
I don't think this game is extremely hard mode

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:24 am
by Datisi
In post 3043, Noraa wrote:But u agreed with all the TRs so u shouldnt expect user to even flip green to begin with :/
"i don't think username is flipping green" =/= "i am one million percent sure username is not flipping green"

like i also don't think this game is insanely hard mode either
but i *have seen* games turn to shit before
and *if* that happens i'd rather have a shot in lylo to solve it than just instalose because the vig was thirsty for my blood

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:25 am
by Noraa
Alonzo why you keep saying I have you in my pocket?
1) I have done nothing to pocket anyone
2) low-key shade bruh

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:26 am
by Noraa
In post 3045, Datisi wrote:
In post 3043, Noraa wrote:But u agreed with all the TRs so u shouldnt expect user to even flip green to begin with :/
"i don't think username is flipping green" =/= "i am one million percent sure username is not flipping green"

like i also don't think this game is insanely hard mode either
but i *have seen* games turn to shit before
and *if* that happens i'd rather have a shot in lylo to solve it than just instalose because the vig was thirsty for my blood
No I'll holster if user is green.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:26 am
by Noraa
Ico needs to protect me if user is green.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:26 am
by Noraa
if user isnt green, ico do whatever the fuck you want. scum won't kill me anyways since I used my last shot.