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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:25 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
its ok u think im scum
i think ur scum
cool
lets see whos right at the end
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:25 am
by Farkran
I'm going to stop here, i think i have made my point clear
Pedit: yes thanks
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:28 am
by Ydrasse
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:32 am
by skitter30
Pooky can you remind me what you think of day?
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:35 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i havent really thought about him very much because i get very tunneled easily unfortunately :/
off top of my head i rememeber:
i thought his tr of lucy was strange.
i liked when he was talking to me about her alignment
I can do a re read of him when I have time tonight to iron out some thoughts.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:45 am
by skitter30
Fair enough. I'll actually read through you/farkran too later
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:38 am
by Menalque
u seem a lil diminished i guess
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:17 am
by Ydrasse
in what sense
if it’s energy wise or game wise the answer is “yeah”
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:36 pm
by skitter30
Can we circle back to day and whether or not we should let the claim live? I'm still thinking no
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:39 pm
by skitter30
Also farkrans' defense of day post claim (~p114) feels kinda icky
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:45 pm
by LegoLucy
Pooky, I'm on mobile but your case in 2908 goes very different from how I selfdescribe playing scum. I emulate my townread and play to get townread. Do you disbelieve my self characterization of think it fits anyway. ? I'm curious which
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:45 pm
by skitter30
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:47 pm
by skitter30
In post 2952, Farkran wrote: In post 2868, Luca Blight wrote:My theory was that Day mentioned a crumb in the scum pt and Norwee forgot it wasn’t mentioned in the game
I do think Norwee/Day makes sense regardless
I think you're wrong here, but i'm open to hear your reasoning
Wrt day though i don't think it count as a crumb but that not's the point - scum!day has little reason to fakeclaim that role so it's probably true. Maybe scum!day makes up the disloyal part, but everything else is very likely part of his true role
I don't think this is scum!day though and norwee is still town to me, tell me why i am wrong
ig i'm kinda ambivalent about the claim being true or not but you seem to be implying that because it's true he's town? i'm not following that part
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:49 pm
by skitter30
In post 2967, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: In post 2746, Farkran wrote:it makes sense for scum!pooky not to oppose town!skitter regardless of mena alignment - i mean, pooky has been arfing at skitter's feet ever since page 5 or something, it would have been an immense scumtell if he went against her to vote town!mena, and if mena is scum all the better for him
like this isnt even about skitter scumreading me
he is saying it is a scum tell for me to vote/push skitters townreads
something which is objectively untrue.
i agree with you on this part
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:50 pm
by LegoLucy
Day's claim is really provable if he roleblocked a mafia tracker and we ask the mafia tracker politely to tell us whether they got a result
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:50 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3035, LegoLucy wrote:Pooky, I'm on mobile but your case in 2908 goes very different from how I selfdescribe playing scum. I emulate my townread and play to get townread. Do you disbelieve my self characterization of think it fits anyway. ? I'm curious which
I think you and I both enjoy getting our hands dirty and the thrill of killing townies when we play the red alignment.
Most people do not like getting their hands dirty, they are worried about being caught.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:51 pm
by skitter30
ok this i s still my conclusion
but if there's scum it's fark
i think pooky is very town here
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:53 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
SS had a nice point about the disloyal part of Day's roleclaim
he can't actually block a town player and get away with it.
for example if a town cop or tracker gets roleblocked, they can come out against day.
also mafia would have to be informed that there are no town roleblockers for him to really attempt this kind of roleclaim? isn't it fairly common for a roleblocker to exist in a mini normal?
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:54 pm
by skitter30
eh i'm p sure i've seen normals with more than one rb
ss's point is decent tho
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:54 pm
by LegoLucy
I shouldn't BoP you right
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:55 pm
by skitter30
maybe he's like a scum loyal rb
~
nsg had at least one normal game at some point where she had compulsive loyal scum aceticizers so although that would be, like, wacky af it's not beyond the queue so like :shrug:
i don't think the claim is important enough to let him live just by virtue of it existing
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:55 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3043, skitter30 wrote:eh i'm p sure i've seen normals with more than one rb
ss's point is decent tho
yea we just played in one lol
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:56 pm
by skitter30
yes that is indeed what i was thinking of lol
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:56 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3045, skitter30 wrote:maybe he's like a scum loyal rb
~
nsg had at least one normal game at some point where she had compulsive loyal scum aceticizers so although that would be, like, wacky af it's not beyond the queue so like :shrug:
i don't think the claim is important enough to let him live just by virtue of it existing
the downside is a lot like worse if he's actually town tho cuz he can get guilties?
I should get on that re-read of Day ISO
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:56 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
You know how amazingly accurate I am when I'm town :3