Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Andante]

ahhh tbh I shouldn't have knowingly let town!Dragons die d1

knowingly?

you're seriously claiming you knew dragons was town and were willing to hammer anyway?

p-edit i think a maf neo is highly unlikely in this scenario. not out of the question, but you keep doing this thing where you assume that a fake town PR claim must come from the mafia equivalent of the same role and i don't really know what the reasoning behind it is

and ooh on the 2nd part lol, it's cause that's what I always did as scum.. just claim the town equivalent of my role, like being a mafia watcher was fun, and town believed I was a legit watcher

[InsidiousLemons]

ahhh tbh I shouldn't have knowingly let town!Dragons die d1

knowingly?

you're seriously claiming you knew dragons was town and were willing to hammer anyway?

p-edit i think a maf neo is highly unlikely in this scenario. not out of the question, but you keep doing this thing where you assume that a fake town PR claim must come from the mafia equivalent of the same role and i don't really know what the reasoning behind it is

did you not read my day 1? I kept yelling dragons town, even at the end I said it was flipping town... no one would listen, so I said "whatever" and let yall have it

i know you kept yelling dragons town. i just find it absurd that you would choose to make such an anti-town play as hammering a TR. stop playing like you don't care if you win or lose

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE:

[Andante]

ahhh tbh I shouldn't have knowingly let town!Dragons die d1

knowingly?

you're seriously claiming you knew dragons was town and were willing to hammer anyway?

p-edit i think a maf neo is highly unlikely in this scenario. not out of the question, but you keep doing this thing where you assume that a fake town PR claim must come from the mafia equivalent of the same role and i don't really know what the reasoning behind it is

did you not read my day 1? I kept yelling dragons town, even at the end I said it was flipping town... no one would listen, so I said "whatever" and let yall have it

i know you kept yelling dragons town. i just find it absurd that you would choose to make such an anti-town play as hammering a TR. stop playing like you don't care if you win or lose

Technically I didn't hammer it... I never said I don't care??

[InsidiousLemons]

you threatened to hammer, which caused anya to do it instead. threatening to hammer a player you actively townread is not caring whether you win or lose. knock it off

i'm gonna stop fighting about this now but seriously you've been making consistently anti-town plays this whole game and your only defense has been "yolo"

[Andante]

like, implying that I don't care if I win or lose.... excuse me?? if that were the case I'd be yeeting Asteria right now just like those who are voting her.... that's all they've done today "yeah get her! worst case VFP confirmed town"

[Andante]

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i never said she definitely gets shot, but point taken.

i mean you said she'd be not a very useful town PR cuz she'd get shot at night

but getting shot at night is pretty damn useful? helluva lot better than needing to use an elimination on them tbh

[InsidiousLemons]

like, implying that I don't care if I win or lose.... excuse me?? if that were the case I'd be yeeting Asteria right now just like those who are voting her.... that's all they've done today "yeah get her! worst case VFP confirmed town"

this u?

VOTE: Asteria

I'm 100% down to speed vote this though lmao

ehh I'll bite VOTE: Asteria

worst case, Asteria is real, but VFP would be confirmed town

I might be down to just kill this neo claim, the claim itself is PERFECT for scum, like, it couldn't be much better... I might just yeet asteria tbh then we go from there

I'm kinda down with just hammering day here with an Asteria elim, and we discus stuff tomorrow

[Andante]

and why would I be unvoted right now if I didn't care?

[DkKoba]

VOTE: andante

[Andante]

excuse me koba?

[Andante]

yeah I'm just leaving, I'm clearly not wanted right now

[InsidiousLemons]

i never said she definitely gets shot, but point taken.

i mean you said she'd be not a very useful town PR cuz she'd get shot at night

but getting shot at night is pretty damn useful? helluva lot better than needing to use an elimination on them tbh

like i said, point taken. i'm not even voting asteria right now. let's go through the options here

1) asteria flips nea
VFP is conf-VT and there is a non-zero chance scum immediately seizes the opportunity to NK him because of that fact. we lose ~1 nea result and scum doesn't have to spend a NK to make it happen. the worst outcome, but not a terrible one if VFP lives. even if he dies, that's an extra day's worth of GS results/vig shots.

2) asteria flips scum
VFP is now all but confscum after the whole reaction test thing. we get 2 scum for the price of 1, which is a pretty damn good deal.

now what we have to decide is which of these 2 is the more likely outcome. i'm torn between them, but you guys are beginning to sway me towards viewing #1 as more plausible than i'd thought.

p-edit @koba why

[DkKoba]

im crazy and trying to provoke stuff

[InsidiousLemons]

is it working

[Andresvmb]

it looks like that slot somehow managed to only make shit posts so far! those are not to be confused with shitposts, which are not shit.

This is my favorite post all game. Next time I try to be sarcastic, I hope I have the ingenuity to come up with something like this.

[Andresvmb]

I've skimmed Andres ISO and I think he is scum. First,he is in my PoE. Second, it's almost like he's only posting content when asked. He isn't asking questions or doing anything, only responding to people when it directly involves him. That ppretty much sums up my scumread.

This is such superficial bullshit. It makes me sad.

[DkKoba]

is it working

Id say so, looks like the votee ragequit

[Andresvmb]

like, playing like "well if she is town, we know VFP town" I really feel like that's not the optimal plan here. ahhhhh

I disagree, actually. A Confirmed Town can be very useful. VFP’s contributions haven’t been great I mean they think I’m Scum for some reason but still.

[Andresvmb]

Well that flip definitely would have made for some unhappy scum.

VOTE: anya

like, what scum starts the day with this. I think she's flipping town

Well I would be posturing too if I had participated in a shot that turned out horribly.

[Andresvmb]

Yeah, but I'm not thinking about a T3 flip instead of Asteria anymore, like, I'm thinking about finding an actual scumread.

name starts with an a and ends in ndresvmb

I think your way of finding Scum is bad. Why do you think that only Scum reacts to mentions of their name? And do you think Town don’t get offended about being misread?

[Andresvmb]

Cause literally everyone on the Asteria train keeps saying she's flipping neo, I don't feel good about it... ahhh

no i dont think she'll flip nea. i'm saying that even IF she does, that's not a total loss

The one thing I do worry about is that the Scum are somewhat forced here to shoot the Neopolitan before Night 3. The problem is that if we don’t find any Scum at all, then we’re in ELo by then. Which is also a bit the genius of the play if coming from Scum. And if alive, you’re probably going to get a 1v1 at that point. It’s almost inevitable. Would the Scum risk that? I don’t know.

[DkKoba]

Cause literally everyone on the Asteria train keeps saying she's flipping neo, I don't feel good about it... ahhh

no i dont think she'll flip nea. i'm saying that even IF she does, that's not a total loss

The one thing I do worry about is that the Scum are somewhat forced here to shoot the Neopolitan before Night 3. The problem is that if we don’t find any Scum at all, then we’re in ELo by then. Which is also a bit the genius of the play if coming from Scum. And if alive, you’re probably going to get a 1v1 at that point. It’s almost inevitable. Would the Scum risk that? I don’t know.

2 normal games come to mind here which is my main motivation in voting asteria here - although rn im fine exploring other players to gain more info as a tunnel gives us nothing

[Andresvmb]

scum won't just shoot town!VFP tonight and leave us back at square one trying to figure out if Koba and Andante are the real deal?

Would you? With the claims that are left to sort? You can deal with the confirmed Town who is convinced another Town is Scum a bit later in the game. You probably want to avoid straight mechanical solving before you care too much about a slot that’s wildly wrong.