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In post 500, Leafeon and Glaceon wrote:i think cakez and nm are the two scummiest slots in the game rn

i like vft/nacho/kismet to varying degrees

i have also kind of disliked infinity's push on us - there was this one part where she repeated some of the stuff i mentioned being the reasoning for me being low motivation that just felt odd

~leaf

In post 604, Leafeon and Glaceon wrote:Infinity feels really town to me.
Unless they are very good at faking being confused and struggling to articulate reads :V

~Glaceon

In post 1065, Leafeon and Glaceon wrote:i think infinity is town

i think nm actively avoiding creating content and catching zero heat for it makes him very likely scum

~leaf

In post 3027, Infinity 324 wrote:Why does scum!salsa keep flipflopping on her nacho read during her catch-up?

In post 1070, Salsabil Faria wrote: I'm liking

Nachomamma8

's 345; 347 seems okay too; 348 is also good, though the tunnel thing on

Not_Mafia

tells me take a step back but his reply for 284 makes me thinking differently. I've to read more from him to understand him properly; 349 also ok ig; I'm feeling naked after reading the 350 :facepalm: :facepalm: (I need to change my town/scum gameplay but really don't know how :cry: )

In post 1129, Salsabil Faria wrote:

I'm changing my mind about you. I don't like when people start to use AtE. I'm leaning scum on you.

UNVOTE: Disaster Cartel

VOTE: Nachomamma8

In post 1142, Salsabil Faria wrote:

Nachomamma8

's 953 I'm keeping under consideration. By doing this, I just realize that my heart still wants to give a pass to him on Day 1. So, I'm unvoting again (sue me if you want but this game is hard! :( )[/color]

UNVOTE: Nachomamma8

In post 1524, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 1257, notscience wrote:Would a scum team of mena nacho mom lg notmaf want to let nacho die or the habitual lurk scum. If you are townreading this wagon of four you have to understand scum want no part in killing nacho which should tell you anyone trying to derail it is immediately sus.

Actually, I don't see

Nachomamma8

as a scum yet, because of this:

In post 1230, petapan wrote:he starts off the game with a move that draws negative attention to himself like trying to policy n_m as scum because he knows he'll get blowback,

I mean, why scum!

Nachomamma8

will do that in Day 1?

In post 1527, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 1264, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 1248, Venus Fly Trap wrote:i mean of course you're gonna say that since he's defending you >:(

Yes. Yes I am. It is refreshing to have someone defending me for once because I am obviously town here and anyone who has glanced at my recent scum meta would know it.

I am looking for players who are flippable other than me. Because I am town and they are possibly not town. Because me in town for another day is much more advantageous to town then Bulge in town for another day regardless of his alignment at this point.

I maybe would not be playing so heavily for survival at this point if I haven't been public enemy #1 for the entirety of this game (and I don't think I've fucked up significantly!!! I've been weird but I'm a weird person but I don't think I've fucked up this game to deserve this level of heat!!!).

And yeah maybe he is scum who is defending me because I'd expect him to townread me here but that's okay. Because Petapan makes me happy. And if he makes me happy then I don't want to die trying to kill him even though yes. Figured people would dislike me moving my vote.

This is gross!

In post 3031, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't know why she goes through that

In post 3030, Kismet wrote:it would be one thing if you said "why does salsa flip flop on nacho apropos of nothing"
because that might imply the impetus was "independent reeval" which i agree might be a towntell
but here she's just digesting more and more content over a short period of time, so she's just going to react based on what she reads - that is your impetus, and to me that seems null.

In post 3033, Kismet wrote:

In post 3031, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't know why she goes through that

...to get townread by people?

In post 350, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 330, Kismet wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=85994 some salsa scum meta (do not read on sepia)

possibly not the only reason i linked that game just now you tell me

don't feel like i'd be able to meta her w/ any kind of confidence; and she played pretty well in this game only kinda just getting inched out of a win at the very end

i'm a little worried about the giant pass nacho is willing to give and i liked noddy's reaction to nacho's pushing it his way

I did read her entrance and compared it to her before I started advocating her shining light towniness. I think she's night and day here compared to there; she's inquisitive, she's a bit scattered without having an agenda attached, she's hilariously pure. I expected that notsci would be able to pick up on the same things that I am but apparently he's decided to enroll in the Cabd School of Reading Nacho (tm) and as a result is completely failing in reading me instead.

One of the big weaknesses that new scum players tend to have (and Salsa certainly had in the game you linked) is a difficulty in hiding their agenda. You'll notice a lot of her questions in that game were shallow (aka acting people to elaborate on reasons they didn't explain), she was careful was she expressed suspicion or explained her votes. She was also a heck of a lot more defensive in that game versus here (when she thought I suspected her, she called me paranoid and brushed it off vs there where she seemed to get indignant that someone was "shading her"). Here she's just carefree, more inquisitive, more likely to do things that don't have a clear scum agenda. Instead of just asking people to elaborate on random suspicions, seems like she's genuinely trying to understand the stuff going around her.

And while of course I'll be reanalyzing this read constantly, I'd be very very surprised to see this slot flip scum at this point.

In post 3034, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah, but there's also an element of "this might look scummy" that might discourage her from flip flopping. It's hard to evaluate in an unbiased way "hmm I probably would be flip flopping as town here" and it's easier to just be consistent imo

In post 2493, Infinity 324 wrote:I guess part of what's frustrating me about this interaction is that I don't normally expect my reasoning to be 100% clear to people and often expect to have to be asked clarifying questions to sort things out. So when I do that and then am told that I'm lying it's like wtf do you want me to do? I also tend to be quite careful expressing opinions as scum, as I think most people are, so I don't really have a reason to lie about what I said because I already thought it through. If I'm trying to be unbiased, I think you have a decent chance of being town, especially if NM flips scum, but if you are town you're sorting me in totally the wrong way.

In post 2499, Infinity 324 wrote:Idk why scum sends bulge to solo push me, if there are more townread members of the scumteam then that would give the push a lot more legitimacy. Even just a quantity of people pushing on me would help to give it more legitimacy. Scum play is messier that I'm describing here but I think if scum!bulge wanted to push me he would probably not go all out?

In post 3045, Kismet wrote:i mean the person that most implicates is _me_ imo