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[Andresvmb]

I think if Rathe, Kyouko and VFP consolidate onto one player, I think the rest of the Town should follow. These slots I am fairly certain are Town.

[Andresvmb]

STD and perhaps Anya I have as solidly Town also. And I think the rest of the game can all get executed as far as I’m concerned. At the bottom of my pyramid so far are Titus and T3. But I need to still finish reading to have all of the information.

[Andresvmb]

But anyway. I still need more time. I was trying to pour some time into this but I have some work I need to take care of and it’s just been busy.

[Andresvmb]

Honestly T3 should really get executed. Nero thought they were Town by meta but frankly the slot has a lot of horrifying takes D1. Has anyone even read the game all that closely? I know Rathe wanted to but they mostly just cleared Kyouko (correctly in my view).

[Dwlee99]

I agree on sheeping VFP at the very least.

[Dragon of the West]

I could compromise on a T3 or Andre lim for today. I think either one of those flips gives us good game info and I think it's fairly likely one of them is scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

T3 is town.

You really have no basis to say this to be honest.

No I do, the gauche attempt to draw a kill as vt is one such basis.

[Andresvmb]

T3 is town.

You really have no basis to say this to be honest.

No I do, the gauche attempt to draw a kill as vt is one such basis.

Let’s agree to disagree for now.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

What's the case on Andres?

I thought it was weird for him to say "I'll try to avoid being the default [elim] for the day". When I say weird I dont mean scummy, it seemed weird because it didnt seem to me like he was in that position. Looking back though it does seem like he had the most votes at the time so I guess i get that.

[Gypyx]

votecount 3.4

Andresvmb (3) :

Dwlee99 - VFP - ChaosOmega

T3 (2) :

Andresvmb - Anya

Anya (2) :

DrippingGoofball - Titus

Titus (1) :

Save The Dragons

ssbm_Kyouko (1) :

Dragon Of The West

Not voting (3) :

T3 - Rathe -ssbm_Kyouko

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-07-05 10:26:12)

, with 12 alive, it takes 7 to slap someone

annoncements

prodding ChaosOmega, as this is their third prod, a replacement search will be started, it will be stopped if they come back to the game

flavor

video number - 511
summary - Very fast song
would recommend ? - you gotta like, really like fast songs to like that

[ChaosOmega]

I'm here! Responding to 2971, still working on it.

[Dwlee99]

What's the case on Andres?

PoE? I also felt like he went AWOL at the end of day 2 which might just be IRL stuff but I don't like.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Maybe dwlee vfp you can talk about why andres? Maybe it's
further back in your iso but I'm on mobile atm and not seeing why

Pedit: is everyone else out already or who is partner? I saw VFP's post about the unvotes indicating a bus

[Dwlee99]

Can you clarify what you're asking in your pedit?

[ChaosOmega]

So nothing he's done makes you town-read him, good to know.

Well what makes you Scum Read me? Maybe talk me through how you’re seeing the game because honestly I find you null.

VFP has already gone into this a bit, but your push in 2817/2821/2823 that you're town because you voted osuka all day D1 is dumb. He was in 0 danger, and you avoided this game at the end of D1 while posting elsewhere. When osuka was actually eliminated on D2, you didn't vote for him because you town-read him. The leading counter wagon was Anya, which you disparaged in 1878 and then jumped on in 2315 to try and push through. Your tone in defending yourself today has shifted weirdly, you started with the osuka point earlier, got pushback, and switched to an AtE in 2830/2833. These two thought processes don't make sense to me together, showing how town you are because of your scum vote and woe is me, my reads are so bad. It looks like you're just trying to see what defense works best for you.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Can you clarify what you're asking in your pedit?

Yeah I mean is everyone else out of your poe for today already, or who do you think could be andres' last partner?

I saw VFP made a post (below) somewhat recently that he said means there was a bus. Not sure which wagon he's talking about but I thought he was concluding that andre was being bussed by either STD or Chaos based on the context.

I think Andre is a good shout here.
The hop off from everyone in my lim pool just makes me think there was a bus.

The fact that Dwlee and Chaos are still on while both being town reads says a lot too.

Regardless though, T3 should claim more I at least agree with that.
And let's not give any false information if town, T3.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Or actually I think he TRs Chaos, maybe prior to the VC someone else was on and unvoted and that's who he meant

[Dwlee99]

Yes I think he meant someone other than chaos. I think he is saying he townreads chaos there. Not everyone else is out of my PoE. Off the top of my head t3 and STD are still there.

[VFP]

Maybe dwlee vfp you can talk about why andres? Maybe it's
further back in your iso but I'm on mobile atm and not seeing why

Pedit: is everyone else out already or who is partner? I saw VFP's post about the unvotes indicating a bus

It's purely just down to PoE.
The fact none of my PoE are voting there now and that the wagon dragged out and hasn't gone anywhere really suggests scum though.

I've seen some points to why Andre isn't buddies with Osuka here. But the way Osuka played I can see thiae responses from either scum Andre or town. It's NAI itself.

I'm not convinced fully that Andre is scum so I'm not the best the sheep if arguments are better... but I don't think Andre is a bad shout here.

T3 plausible still scum for just claiming VT but I can't go into detail why. I just feel scum T3 was preparing a fake claim then goes with "lying" there anyway.

[DrippingGoofball]

the wagon dragged out and hasn't gone anywhere really suggests scum though.

That's meaningless, 2 scums are already dead, they can't swing wagons on town as nimbly as they'd like.

[Titus]

T3 plausible still scum for just claiming VT but I can't go into detail why. I just feel scum T3 was preparing a fake claim then goes with "lying" there anyway.

I agree with this, but I can't say why T3 is town. So I understand the suspicion.

[VFP]

the wagon dragged out and hasn't gone anywhere really suggests scum though.

That's meaningless, 2 scums are already dead, they can't swing wagons on town as nimbly as they'd like.

Considering that all other 3 in the scum pool were voting Andrew and not now means 1 of 2 things.

Scum bussed and helps cause doubt to get the unvotes
Both scum votes Andre and for some reason unvote on town.

Regardless this tells me that that PoE of Andre, Dragon, T3, and Raith is on point.

And saying that scum can't influence with only 2 left is wrong and you know it.

The only reason I see both scum jumping off town Andre is to not lim in the PoE. This suggests Dragon with either T3 or Raith. Since Dragon is voting Titus, and the other 2 also did.

[Dwlee99]

If Andre's reads catch up is good we can lim somewhere else in the PoE.

[Dwlee99]

By catch up I mean reread

[VFP]

I'm thinking Dragon anyway.
The way the Dragon didn't want me and Nom to go at it, and the strange stance he takes of wanting to ignore me because it's T/T.
Also, Dragon said that early on he lost interest in the game but he felt involved and strongly opinionated re reading there.