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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:18 am
by CheekyTeeky
My target N2 was DGB so from my PoV it makes sense if Shrek visited DGB to NK them and STD protected DGB and MegA is scum with a fake claim.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:19 am
by LicketyQuickety
In post 3021, Roden wrote:
In post 3001, Roden wrote:
In post 2992, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2988, Roden wrote:
In post 2982, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2981, CheekyTeeky wrote:Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.
If DGB is scum why would it purposely implicate itself as scum with the NK?
I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.
If you think DGB is scum then why do you want to vote Gamma?
Because I think the NK will implicate DGB.
Oof my part got removed.

If DGB is scum then why would it purposely implicate itself with the NK?
Because the NK would be me over DGB and that makes DGB look bad because DGB should always die before me.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:20 am
by LicketyQuickety
In post 3025, CheekyTeeky wrote:My target N2 was DGB so from my PoV it makes sense if Shrek visited DGB to NK them and STD protected DGB and MegA is scum with a fake claim.
I'm not asking what makes sense to you. I'm asking you about what you know for a fact.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:20 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2947, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2944, Dragon of the West wrote:So DGB has a "guilty" in the sense that the person they targeted wasn't added to the PT. But they wouldn't know the difference between that and being blocked
Yeah, and DGB is still pushing the "Shrek is Scum" narrative that is really lacking an awareness of what has been said.
In post 2988, Roden wrote:
In post 2982, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2981, CheekyTeeky wrote:Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.
I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.
If you think DGB is scum then why do you want to vote Gamma?
In post 2991, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2984, CheekyTeeky wrote:If DGB is scum we all owe it to it to nom them after the game.
Uh, no? Because we let NKs solve this. If I die (which is likely) then it paints DGB in a bad light. If Shrek dies, then it paints DGB in a bad light. If DGB dies, then it makes Shrek look bad. If Cheeky dies, it probably does nothing, but dissuades the conversation one more day.

On another note, I think the reason that DGB took my advice to target Shrek is because of who it clears if Shrek is Scum. I would have honestly expected Town!DGB to question my methods of those clears because they are behind closed doors.
HEY

I did question your methods TWICE but the first time you refused to answer and the second you straight up ignored me.

I took your suggestion because I wanted to be a nice guy and give you a chance to test your arcane theories.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:20 am
by Dwlee99
Action failed is different in what way from no result?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:20 am
by Nero Cain
"your action failed" means?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:21 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3027, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3025, CheekyTeeky wrote:My target N2 was DGB so from my PoV it makes sense if Shrek visited DGB to NK them and STD protected DGB and MegA is scum with a fake claim.
I'm not asking what makes sense to you. I'm asking you about what you know for a fact.
this is the first good lead I've seen you pursue in a long time

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:21 am
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3027, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3025, CheekyTeeky wrote:My target N2 was DGB so from my PoV it makes sense if Shrek visited DGB to NK them and STD protected DGB and MegA is scum with a fake claim.
I'm not asking what makes sense to you. I'm asking you about what you know for a fact.
I know for a fact that I targeted DGB N2 and got a action failed result.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:21 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2947, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2944, Dragon of the West wrote:So DGB has a "guilty" in the sense that the person they targeted wasn't added to the PT. But they wouldn't know the difference between that and being blocked
Yeah, and DGB is still pushing the "Shrek is Scum" narrative that is really lacking an awareness of what has been said.
In post 2988, Roden wrote:
In post 2982, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2981, CheekyTeeky wrote:Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.
I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.
If you think DGB is scum then why do you want to vote Gamma?
In post 2991, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2984, CheekyTeeky wrote:If DGB is scum we all owe it to it to nom them after the game.
Uh, no? Because we let NKs solve this. If I die (which is likely) then it paints DGB in a bad light. If Shrek dies, then it paints DGB in a bad light. If DGB dies, then it makes Shrek look bad. If Cheeky dies, it probably does nothing, but dissuades the conversation one more day.

On another note, I think the reason that DGB took my advice to target Shrek is because of who it clears if Shrek is Scum. I would have honestly expected Town!DGB to question my methods of those clears because they are behind closed doors.
In post 2995, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2986, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 2982, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2981, CheekyTeeky wrote:Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.
I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.
LQ, town!DGB is just really accusatory in general and pegs people as scum even without hard guilties. I'd say at best it's NAI but I haven't seen their scum play so maybe I'm wrong
lol guy. DGB like exclusively defended scum and pushed town at least in the early game.

This game?????

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:21 am
by LicketyQuickety
In post 3029, Dwlee99 wrote:Action failed is different in what way from no result?
Action failed is RB. No Result is anything else.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:22 am
by DrippingGoofball
How could Nero say i pushed town and defended scum in this game when no scum flipped????

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:23 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 3020, Nero Cain wrote:oh i get it. When you said "pegs" you just meant calls. It doesn't have anything to do with accuracy.
Yeah my bad. Poor wording

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:23 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3034, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3029, Dwlee99 wrote:Action failed is different in what way from no result?
Action failed is RB. No Result is anything else.
No. No result is what's given on a roleblock. Read the normal guidelines

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:23 am
by Dwlee99
"Action failed" just isn't a thing.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:24 am
by Dwlee99
Or if it is, it's the same as no result. There's no differentiation is what I mean.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:24 am
by Nero Cain
In Normal games, a common example of approved wording for a "no result" PM is "Your action failed, and you did not receive a result."

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:25 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2997, Dwlee99 wrote:So we definitely lim in mega/cheeky.
So what happened to my Shrek target then?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:25 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 3034, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3029, Dwlee99 wrote:Action failed is different in what way from no result?
Action failed is RB. No Result is anything else.
Idk what Cheeky's specific role is but if you roleblock certain investigative roles they get a "no result" pm per the wiki. So action failed = no result of roleblocked unless action failed isn't getting roleblocked? Idk what the scenario would be for action failed?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:25 am
by Dwlee99

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:25 am
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3038, Dwlee99 wrote:"Action failed" just isn't a thing.
Yeah it is a thing, specific to my role which means either I was RB'd or DGB ascetic which I don't think they are due to Shrek/mega claims and STD death.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:26 am
by Nero Cain
cheeky was just roleblocked and much like Jon Snow, knows nothing

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:26 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3041, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2997, Dwlee99 wrote:So we definitely lim in mega/cheeky.
So what happened to my Shrek target then?
Cheeky could have roleblocked you?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:26 am
by Dragon of the West
I should really read for pedits

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:27 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3044, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3038, Dwlee99 wrote:"Action failed" just isn't a thing.
Yeah it is a thing, specific to my role which means either I was RB'd or DGB ascetic which I don't think they are due to Shrek/mega claims and STD death.
You couldn't have been roleblocked if you were seen visiting DGB. So either mega is lying or cheeky is lying.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:27 am
by Dwlee99
VOTE: Mega