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In post 3020, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 3017, unwnd wrote:Based on your own dissertation it sounded like you just disagreed

That doesn't mean my brain isn't working, we're just not on the same wavelength

if you're town, i'm sorry, i just can't construct a realistic model of town!unwnd based on your posting

and i've been trying

In post 2981, unwnd wrote:Taly is a big question mark for me because they don't fit in my mind. This is a curious (?) where I don't think they're townie but also not null. They're a hard elimination and in my absolute tinfoil paranoia

I think they're being protected by scum

. I have less on the motivations of why, but I feel their presence to not be something that relieves me. Maybe it's their nature to weird, but I can't townread weird because something tells me that Taly is probably decent at his own weirdness and using it as a means to be townread. There's nothing entirely wrong with his approach but that alone makes me question because it is presented in such a processed and orderly manner where every appearance by him is very deliberate. It would be townie in another game but not this one, and not based on the events that have happened.

In post 3015, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 2997, petapan wrote:

In post 2987, Infinity 324 wrote:i feel bad but...unwnd still isn't towntelling imo

also i'm not super convinced about the cakez case but at this point i'm ok sheeping it. kinda done with this phase tbh

his walls as scum are a lot more empty

unwnd? that wall felt pretty empty to me tbh

In post 3024, skitter30 wrote:@peta wrt your sircakez case:

cakez is quite clearly not invested in the game, and i think that most of your issues with the depth of his thoughts functionally stem from that.
the issue i'm having with the conclusion that he's scum because of it is that we have gypyx + toog + dwlee to a similar extent playing in a very similar way, and i don't think they're all scum.

cakez' is uninvested and shallow, yeah. i'm not coninvced that's inherently scum-indicative

tonally/emotionally i think he's being very honest about his thoughts and feelings and approach to the game, and i still like his mortal kombat thing from last night
i don't think he's scum and i don't think i can vote him here

In post 3026, Taly wrote:

In post 2981, unwnd wrote:Taly is a big question mark for me because they don't fit in my mind. This is a curious (?) where I don't think they're townie but also not null. They're a hard elimination and in my absolute tinfoil paranoia

I think they're being protected by scum

. I have less on the motivations of why, but I feel their presence to not be something that relieves me. Maybe it's their nature to weird, but I can't townread weird because something tells me that Taly is probably decent at his own weirdness and using it as a means to be townread. There's nothing entirely wrong with his approach but that alone makes me question because it is presented in such a processed and orderly manner where every appearance by him is very deliberate. It would be townie in another game but not this one, and not based on the events that have happened.

The bolded is the epitome of my fear this game but presented from an outside perspective with seemingly incomplete knowledge of my slot.

What unsettles me is that you don't reach any conclusion of my alignment from this information. Am I townblocking with my scumteam or am I good slot to parrot and WK as town for later game WIFOM?

On one hand, I can sympathize and appreciate your POV, on the other - this is the only time you've directly spoken about my slot. So its hard to gauge whether your suspicion is natural.

You are correct about one thing.

I am not a player to take at face value.

In post 3007, ulyana wrote:like 'towntelling' about not knowing how many sabotages there are and such

In post 3022, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2998, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't think we should assume the scum team sabotaged after the target was chosen, I think it was selected before that. So if gamma is town I don't think the sabotage actually says anything about galron's alignment. Also, I'll do this for Peta
VOTE: Cakez
This vote is sort of completely hypocritical cause the reasons Peta are suggesting here are also just how I've been playing so I'm not sure what the difference is to him but sure

Yeah I think it was basically instant so if scum sabotaged because of who I suspected that means they didn’t want someone in (Toog, Galron/unwnd, Ceph, Dwlee) dead, but it’s more likely they just wanted to kill a player who they felt they couldn’t mislim

In post 2981, unwnd wrote:Taly is a big question mark for me because they don't fit in my mind. This is a curious (?) where I don't think they're townie but also not null. They're a hard elimination and in my absolute tinfoil paranoia I think they're being protected by scum. I have less on the motivations of why, but I feel their presence to not be something that relieves me. Maybe it's their nature to weird, but I can't townread weird because something tells me that Taly is probably decent at his own weirdness and using it as a means to be townread. There's nothing entirely wrong with his approach but that alone makes me question because it is presented in such a processed and orderly manner where every appearance by him is very deliberate. It would be townie in another game but not this one, and not based on the events that have happened.

In post 2981, unwnd wrote:I think Skitter is very not afraid to put her stake in things but that makes it dangerous because

I've seen her do so to dissuade town

. It's just this dismissive attitude that is rubbing me wrong and I wish it didn't.

In post 3030, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 3007, ulyana wrote:like 'towntelling' about not knowing how many sabotages there are and such

where did he do this?

In post 2993, unwnd wrote:Why waste a Sabotage (I am assuming they're x-shot, there's no way scum get free reign to sabotage every event) if your teammate is the one at the helm of the event?

In post 3027, petapan wrote:i don't agree. i was wrong on him once because he tends to ramble as town and i had no idea what to think. but he's making points and they're fine and make sense it's not all obfuscation and inconclusiveness

In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.

In post 2983, unwnd wrote:{Gamma}
{Gypyx, Dwlee, Ulyana}
{Dunnstral, Ydrasse, Infinity, Peta}
{Skitter, Taly}
{Toog, Saber, Cakez}

In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.

In post 2996, unwnd wrote:They were already getting an extra free kill if Gamma is scum and just gets to execute whoever the hell they want lol

In post 3005, Dwlee99 wrote:Like what evidence do you think points to the sabotage being selected AFTER Gamma made his choice?

In post 3040, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2983, unwnd wrote:{Gamma}
{Gypyx, Dwlee, Ulyana}
{Dunnstral, Ydrasse, Infinity, Peta}
{Skitter, Taly}
{Toog, Saber, Cakez}

i just kinda look at this and go ???? because it doesn't vibe with my sense of the gamestate at all

pedit ok i can drop it if you don't want to do this. i don't think i can unvote at this time tho

In post 3042, Dwlee99 wrote:This makes me think that we actually should really look at pooky's posts cause scum either 1.) Didn't do the math to realize that it doesn't decrease the chance of them dying (I haven't done the math for more than 1 scum in a list but I suspect it is the same) or 2.) Really wanted Pooky dead.

In post 3047, ulyana wrote:

In post 3042, Dwlee99 wrote:This makes me think that we actually should really look at pooky's posts cause scum either 1.) Didn't do the math to realize that it doesn't decrease the chance of them dying (I haven't done the math for more than 1 scum in a list but I suspect it is the same) or 2.) Really wanted Pooky dead.

to me pooky was basically confirmed and! pooky is a very capable town, so

i just kinda assume mafia took the opportunity to kill pooky because of this