Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia (Game Over)

[StrangeMatter]

Then there's Wisdom, who at this point I'm so confused about with a near 360, where they had originally pushed me for what everyone's been saying until now, then said I could just be newbie town, then goes back to suspecting me. Then there's the stuff with the townblock day 1 which I still don't like at all, especially now with VFT flipping red.

PEDIT: I'm sorry what? I looked through Jada's ISO and saw no mention of the bear-pair outside of #2917, so I have no clue what you're talking about with that.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Vote Count 1-13

A man made the news recently for "stealing" mountain dew, for which he faces several years as a felony, despite thinking he'd overpaid in a rush.

Milk & Mocha (4): Dunnstral, Venus Fly Trap, Lady Lamdadelta, Towelie
E. M. M. I. (3): ssbm_Kyouko, Gamma Emerald, Wisdom
ssbm_Kyouko (1): Critter
Dunnstral (1): Milk & Mocha
Gamma Emerald (1): StrangeMatter
Critter (1): MUSHSHAGANA

Not Voting (2): Something_Smart, E. M. M. I.

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate a flavor.

Current Deadline: (expired on 2021-11-02 20:02:57)

MM town

[Gamma Emerald]

Then there's the stuff with the townblock day 1 which I still don't like at all

oh yeah can you talk more abt this
I kinda din't like the way u expressed it

[StrangeMatter]

Hmm. Yeah, I'll give Jada that I highly doubt that both scums there, goes and buses their own partner.

The reason I don't like the thing about the town block was in particular #1692, where it gives that feelings that I've expressed earlier that it reads like you shouldn't question the town block. It's really scummy to me especially when VFT flipped Mafia day 1.

[StrangeMatter]

And I don't mean literally.

[Wisdom]

Hmm. Yeah, I'll give Jada that I highly doubt that both scums there, goes and buses their own partner.

I thought you agreed with me that pushes matter more than votes

Votes dont mean much
Show me the pushes

This is probably the only time I kind of agree with Wisdom here, votes really don't really matter, it's really the pushes that say a lot more.

[Wisdom]

So making such an easy conclusion from Jada's vca seems to go against that statement. You only looked at votes and made it.

[StrangeMatter]

Hmm. Yeah, I'll give Jada that I highly doubt that both scums there, goes and buses their own partner.

I thought you agreed with me that pushes matter more than votes

Votes dont mean much
Show me the pushes

This is probably the only time I kind of agree with Wisdom here, votes really don't really matter, it's really the pushes that say a lot more.

I still agree with both though. Votes are pushes, but not all pushes have to be votes.

[StrangeMatter]

Also yeah I said I kind of agree, I really didn’t explain that well either way.

[Wisdom]

SM, show me what you consider your best completed town game

[StrangeMatter]

Just trying to clear this up.

Votes have times where they do and don't matter. When you want to look into the push itself, that's when the vote really doesn't matter, and the content of the push itself says more. In the case of the VCA, you're looking at the votes themselves and looking at the people who we know what role they are, and who they were voting, such as the two flipped scum.


PEDIT: Sure. Not sure if this is really my best but here. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=87240
I'm going to head off from this game for right now.

[Wisdom]

Your iso in that game tells me youre capable of actually playing

In this game youre only talking about vague theories about townblocks and votes

You feel detached from the actual game

VOTE: strangematter

[StrangeMatter]

Gee wiz, I wonder why. Maybe it's like that's the issue I've been having this ENTIRE game? And we can't all be super invested into our games.

So annoying, I'm out.

[Gamma Emerald]

If you could back your feelings about why the townblock was bad I might feel good about you being town

[Gamma Emerald]

Like sure the conclusion was right but I wanna see your work

[StrangeMatter]

Like sure the conclusion was right but I wanna see your work

I can't actually prove this sadly, it's mostly experienced on mafia games off-site. Though it usually goes along the lines of, townblock forms through (a lot of means, sometimes by scum or just town putting scum in it), and scum wins due to this fact. Similarly in another Newbie game, Roden had attempted and managed to get town read by most slots, and made it hard to pursue them.

[Gamma Emerald]

I personally feel like townblocking is kinda a necessary evil for me a lot of the time. I have a hard time forming scumreads I can rlly depend on sometimes but can form a good base of TRs at which point it’s easier to townblock and lim in the names I don’t have in it. The issue is I have a bit of a weak spot? In a past game the mod of this game actually clued me into my tendency to hard defend scum. But I would rather play my way while just keeping one eye open to that blind spot vs. forcing myself to play in a way that is harder for me.

[Towelie]

Alright troops this is the Bork and notty show now shape up or ship out

Report in now, I’m babe ruthing this bitch to send us into postgame

[Towelie]

We're synced. I'll let him take it from here; he likes this part.

-b

[Towelie]

Final scum is SM. Final answer, cut the stupid TvT Shit I don’t care who mush wants to shoot tonighg because she’s not going to have to. Everyone else is town, we’re stuck in this loop because we don’t want the answer to be this easy. Dunn early interactions make ssbm town plus her play. Dunn repeatedly fanned Pooky paranoia and had some awkward ducking posts about Pooky. Dunn had that weird FoS Shit on mush I’ve literally never seen him do before.

SM struggles to engage as scum. Go to their completed games, hit their ISO without checking alignment and see if they’re engaged. I bet you they’re town.

I want the hammer.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: StrangeMatter
Good enough for me!

[Towelie]

Someone else vote so I can hammer and go to bed pls and thx

[StrangeMatter]

I have about as much consistency in my games as my memory, beyond awful. Well, let's hope this decision means you all reevaluate after my flip because I'm not scum here.

[Towelie]

I picked three games at random and was able to correctly guess your alignment off the tell I just shared.

[StrangeMatter]

Still don't see why you'd eliminate a slot that can only be a goon in this when there's already been a goon flip though? So we're assuming that it's 2 goons and 1 Two-Shot Roleblocker I guess?

Also, I'm bringing this back, 25 cents for every time someone says I'm scum and I'm not.