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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:12 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 3042, Colonel Guile wrote:Alright Goat gets to live until tomorrow DGB.

If we're not lynching Angelious, Rubicon, or Goat, then who the fuck are we lynching? :P
AN or qwints.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:13 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 3047, Colonel Guile wrote:
Unvote; Vote: Messiah


DEATH TO MESSIAH
Is he scum?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:15 am
by Colonel Guile
Who knows? He's as good a bet as anyone else, right?

brb, ISOing.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:15 am
by qwints
In post 3049, Colonel Guile wrote:You can't pick Goat, AN, or Rubicon. Who's next on your list?
Viomi. Then Mac.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:31 am
by Colonel Guile
Actually, we should all unvote, and not rush this.

Viomi, let's have a little chat. Are you scum? Can you tell me anything useful you've done this game?

Mac, I want to know why you think Messiah thinks/thought you are/were scum, in your own words.

Messiah, tell me what you think of EVERYTHING in the game please.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:32 am
by Colonel Guile
In good faith:
Unvote


I expect everyone else to follow suit. Please.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:36 am
by qwints
fair enough. UNVOTE:

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:38 am
by Antilles
In post 347, Messiah wrote:
In post 163, Approximately Normal Guy wrote:1)The "this is exactly why I voted for you" doesn't even make sense. I cited a previous game where basically the exact same thing happened and I flipped town, and you're saying that's exactly why you voted me.
2)You argue that it's too early (via page numbers) for town to get upset about a vote on them, yet simultaneously argue that your vote is totally legitimate.
2b)You emphasize so strongly the specific page number and don't even cite the correct page.
3)You proceed to call me scummy for questioning the shitvotes I have on me.
1.) I was obviously referring to the "town doesn't say that" part, which is why I then proceeded to start the next sentence with "Town doesn't..."
2.) I
almost
see your point. Your reaction to your wagon has been awful all around, mostly down to the way you demanded everyone present a case so you can defend yourself. You're trying to make a distinction between that and "You can't PROVE I'm scum!" but I don't see one, at all, even a little. The fact that it was so early in the game just made it worse, as if you somehow expected AP to be giving you cases to pick apart on page 4. (And yes, post 90 was on page 4. Go check.)
3.) I think you reacted to them in a way that appeared more scum than town, but nice try twisting it to sound better.

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The Goat is probably town, and the votes on him are stupid. I feel like he would be a lot more appeasing in this situation if he were scum. He admitted to having skimmed the thread before voting when he could have just said he saw the thread was up and just quickly voted before dinner because he remembered that's what you're supposed to do in post 230. I also think the way he explains that people's problem with his late random vote is "[their] problem, not [his]" like in post 275 reads as more townish in this situation too, for the same reason.

mastin and Ms Marangal can be scum. Would definitely vote them.

ANG still reads as scum for the reasons I've previously stated, and I don't like the way he's continued only focusing on his attackers and responding to direct questions. In post 181 he states that GIF and I could be scum on his wagon, but offers absolutely no insight into his thoughts there. I would write something about the hypocrisy there, but it's self-evident so etc.
Oh and Nero, what do you think of Ms Marangal and DGB?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:43 am
by qwints
Who is this?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:48 am
by Mac
In post 3054, Colonel Guile wrote:Actually, we should all unvote, and not rush this.

Viomi, let's have a little chat. Are you scum? Can you tell me anything useful you've done this game?

Mac, I want to know why you think Messiah thinks/thought you are/were scum, in your own words.

Messiah, tell me what you think of EVERYTHING in the game please.
Messiah thought I was scum because I thought Slandaar was town and during d1 voted for CryoNudist first & then him to counter my townreads wagon. he then accused me of waiting for his results and trying to discredit them by questioning him afterwards, which is a pretty shit excuse because I waited for both results before commenting and then asked why he felt the need to hold them back for a while into d2, almost letting piratecat get lynched.

right now, I couldn't tell you what he thinks of me or anyone cos his contribution has been zero lately.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:44 pm
by Viomi
I somehow managed to skip over where he claimed the name.

Still voting goat :3

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:24 pm
by The Goat
Well, I made the sale. Yay me. I'm on my computer, and popped open a beer. Will answer questions.

I'm aggravated as hell now, and here are my random thoughts in no particular order.

1) I sincerely do not give a rat's ass at this point if I get lynched or not. I'm the town doctor, and have protected Messiah every night. I do find it odd that nobody even took a SHOT at him...and I even mentioned that yesterday. To this end, I am not 100% convinced that he's town. I do not think, if he IS scum, he's on the same team as Slandaar, as he pretty well cooked Slandaar's goose. I am also not convinced Guile is town. If I don't get lynched, I may or may not protect either of them. I do not expect to survive the night.

2) Guile, you're all over the place, like a ferret on crack, just ITCHING to lynch anyone. I DEFINITELY want to know what the hell this mechanism is you set in place.

3) Qwints, I don't know the connection between Guile and Rubicon, if there is any. Here's what I know.

a) I'm the town doctor
b) Rubicon counterclaims, then completely disappears.
c) Guile then says that Rubicon is going to die tonight ANYWAY, because of "a mechanism that he set in place". Again, this happened after Rubicon counterclaimed.

Now, obviously I have the advantage of knowing that I'm not scum. Look at it from my perspective. Why would one of the remaining scum stick their neck out to try and counterclaim, when they'll be hyperlynched the following day? Would it be worth eliminating my protection for a night and gaining an additional action? Probably not. So why do it? The only thing that makes any sense is if Rubimajiffy ALREADY KNEW he was going to die tonight anyway.

Also, I didn't panic. I was eating lunch and phone posting, and I miscounted. And I'm a little pissed about the way the whole thing went down.

4) Viomi...seriously?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:45 pm
by The Goat
..and now I need another beer.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:06 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:I do find it odd that nobody even took a SHOT at him...and I even mentioned that yesterday. To this end, I am not 100% convinced that he's town. I do not think, if he IS scum, he's on the same team as Slandaar, as he pretty well cooked Slandaar's goose.
This is most interesting.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:07 pm
by The Goat
Wat?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:09 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:ferret on crack
Welcome to UberNinja's cage.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:11 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 3064, The Goat wrote:Wat?
Would two scum teams assume that he's doc-protected for 5 days? When did he claim?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:16 pm
by The Goat
In post 3065, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:ferret on crack
Welcome to UberNinja's cage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3vnbe2_EGE

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:17 pm
by Rubicon
UNVOTE:
although I still want Goat to die.
In post 3026, qwints wrote:Flavor for both of you?
The gist is that I can deliver supporting fire to protect someone who's under attack.
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:I'm the town doctor, and have protected Messiah every night.
I do find it odd that nobody even took a SHOT at him
...and I even mentioned that yesterday. To this end, I am not 100% convinced that he's town.
Doctor shouldn't know this.
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:Why would one of the remaining scum stick their neck out to try and counterclaim, when they'll be hyperlynched the following day? Would it be worth eliminating my protection for a night and gaining an additional action? Probably not.
You make an excellent point, Goat.
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:So why do it? The only thing that makes any sense is if Rubimajiffy ALREADY KNEW he was going to die tonight anyway.
...Right.
I can only think of one way Guile could
know
I was going to die tonight, and it's not something I could have known before he said it. Here's an alternative suggestion, which makes a bit more sense: I'm the town doctor, and you're scum.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:21 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Night 2 and Night 4... only one kill.

Why you say that no one tried to shoot Messiah?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:26 pm
by The Goat
In post 3068, Rubicon wrote:UNVOTE:
although I still want Goat to die.
In post 3026, qwints wrote:Flavor for both of you?
The gist is that I can deliver supporting fire to protect someone who's under attack.
Do better. My role pm was a good bit more detailed than something you could get a "gist" from. I apparently have this cool vehicle. What do you have, other than made up stuff?
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:I'm the town doctor, and have protected Messiah every night.
I do find it odd that nobody even took a SHOT at him
...and I even mentioned that yesterday. To this end, I am not 100% convinced that he's town.
Doctor shouldn't know this.
I'm working from flavor. I'd like to think that a protect should appear in a writeup. Remember when I asked AN about why he thought there was a protect very early today? Interesting, no?
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:Why would one of the remaining scum stick their neck out to try and counterclaim, when they'll be hyperlynched the following day? Would it be worth eliminating my protection for a night and gaining an additional action? Probably not.
You make an excellent point, Goat.
Just wait till I get going. Where was I?
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:So why do it? The only thing that makes any sense is if Rubimajiffy ALREADY KNEW he was going to die tonight anyway.
...Right.
I can only think of one way Guile could
know
I was going to die tonight, and it's not something I could have known before he said it
. Here's an alternative suggestion, which makes a bit more sense: I'm the town doctor, and you're scum.
Well golly gee whillikers, Liary Liarpants...you want to share that with the class?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:28 pm
by The Goat
In post 3069, DrippingGoofball wrote:Night 2 and Night 4... only one kill.

Why you say that no one tried to shoot Messiah?
I'd like to think that it would have shown in the writeup. There's been a tremendous amount of flavor this entire game. I doubt a kill attempt would have been edited out.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:30 pm
by The Goat
Misread the "supporting fire" part. Interesting that there's a mention of "cover fire" (paraphrased) in the writeup from today...and it didn't save anyone.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:48 pm
by Colonel Guile
In post 3065, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3061, The Goat wrote:ferret on crack
Welcome to UberNinja's cage.
Daykill: DrippingGoofball

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:49 pm
by Colonel Guile
In post 3060, Viomi wrote:I somehow managed to skip over where he claimed the name.

Still voting goat :3
Answer my fucking questions.