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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:32 pm
by Yukari Yakumo
VC 3.3
zMuffinMan (L-2):
GoodCop_BadCop | Kise | bubbajack8 | Varsoon | Kagami | pieguyn | Messiah Complex
GoodCop_BadCop (L-8):
Jaqen Hghar

Not Voting:
zMuffinMan, Mac, King Henry, dramonic, Saki, Nachomamma8, Katarina LeBlanc, ActionDan

With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.

The deadline is February 11, 3:30 PM EST.
Countdown: (expired on 2014-02-11 15:30:00)

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:57 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
This may shock and or astound you wayne, but I'm not here for your every whim 24/7. Fuck off and do something productive for once in your life. If you can't figure out how I found those posts within 7 minutes, then you clearly don't have the necessary logic to piece together this game in general.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:15 pm
by waynegg
A boy would use a name as an insult. Seems a man prior was right about much and more, seeing as how he stopped playing and had another face take up where he left off. It's sad that a boy would waste so much energy on such a silly thing. Sadder still that til now, a man believed this was the other way around.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:23 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
Smooth, asshole. Smooth.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:49 pm
by waynegg
[REDACTED]

~Mod

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:52 pm
by Jaqen Hghar
In post 3051, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:This may shock and or astound you wayne, but I'm not here for your every whim 24/7. Fuck off and do something productive for once in your life. If you can't figure out how I found those posts within 7 minutes, then you clearly don't have the necessary logic to piece together this game in general.
Ahem!

A boy's response is paltry. A boy knew a question was coming. A boy saw the question asked moments after he posted. Now a boy is caught and leans on irrelevancies. Time to lynch a boy.

Or, perhaps, would a Wolf be willing to die to to prove a boy's guilt?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:11 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 2453, Lush Life wrote:I'll jump to Dan if it gets traction today.
I don't think this is a cop with a guilty.
In post 2655, Lush Life wrote:muffin is a better wagon, but I'm not fighting AD to get it today, he just needs to go eventually.
This also doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
In post 2676, Lush Life wrote:[] muffina
[] danny boy
This doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
In post 2684, Lush Life wrote:gcbc, varsoon, kagami

it is danny boy
or
muffina. trust us on this
This doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
In post 2709, Lush Life wrote:VOTE: ActionDan

That's what we're doing then.
Again, doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:17 pm
by pieguyn
nacho what happened to you being #YOLO like you were at the end of D2

instead you're hard defending him. this kind of posting does not come from someone with that mentality

plz don't tell me you and zmuffin both rolled scum AGAIN

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:17 pm
by Nachomamma8
I have no idea why the limited time I do have is being devoted to pointing out that Lush doesn't have a cop guilty on muffin. There would be no reason they would be afraid to out themselves with a dead strongman, mollie hasn't been shy about outing guilties in the past ever so I doubt Bork/Majiffy would be.

The initial "we talked during the night crumb" cabd pointed out is fucking dumb because 1) this happened after night 2, where Lush didn't have an investigation, and 2) mollie talks to her partners during the night. The second "oh this is the first time Lush agreed on something" is additionally fucking dumb because mollie and bork were taking the wheel later days, likely because they were pissed about Majiffy's shit.

Why the fuck do towns have a tendency to start throwing shit away because "oooh, we're in the lead"? Muffin claimed tracker when there is a ninja in play, which is actually a claim that's pretty fucking likely to be town barring shit like watcher in which case we're probably going to get another guilty on scum pretty fucking soon. Don't fucking lynch Muffin because of vague maybe crumbs because that's what you're doing; cabd, I expect you not to be a complete fucking idiot in situations like this.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:18 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 3057, pieguyn wrote:nacho what happened to you being #YOLO like you were at the end of D2

instead you're hard defending him. this kind of posting does not come from someone with that mentality

plz don't tell me you and zmuffin both rolled scum AGAIN
oh i don't know the actual cop guilty on CoK might have helped the YOLO attitude
maybe just a little bit

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:25 pm
by zMuffinMan
nacho, were you part of amaranth?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:29 pm
by Jaqen Hghar
Does Azor Ahai (Nacho) see what a man sees? A boy would break his fast on ramping up a false guilty for a quick mislynch, a man thinks. And what better way? On the morrow he could just claim to have misinterpreted what House Lush said before their fall!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:42 pm
by Kise
Has everyone spoken?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:44 pm
by Katarina LeBlanc
Muffin give your reads and stop fucking procrastinating, next post has to be long and have player names.

P.edit: I'm waiting on Varsoon, tbh.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:06 pm
by zMuffinMan
actually, i think this game can almost be won through poe at this point

16 alive

jaqen town, pieguy town

kagami is almost certainly town. he's been consistently leading lynches on scum (gaiden, CoK before the guilty) and his play just looks town

AD is almost certainly town. i don't think the cok thing was a bus.

varsoon is very likely town. i still think everything about his D1 play points to him being town.

bubba is probably town. he has this completely lost feel about him and i'm not sensing any scum intent in the way he's pushing things this game.

katarina is... probably town. the negative track is a semi-confirm and i kinda felt the way she reacted to me today looked town.

i *think* this is mac's town game. there was a sort of confidence about his posts D1 and the way he was questioning people, interacting with people that looked really town. him not being around much the last couple day phases is kinda meh, but still probably town

MC's play around the gaiden wagon did not look like bussing, and the way he's been approaching reads this game looks really town

kise is some sort of gifter or something. i haven't liked much about his play but this alone makes him probably town

i had a gut feel about amaranth being town but i really wanted to see more from the slot to solidify this

of the remaining players,

GCBC probably shouldn't be around if this game goes near lylo. i don't buy their explanation for claiming the bulletproof - they were better off not claiming at all, and saying that kise pointed out a crumb made them claim is dumb because it suggests they were crumbing the bulletproof. also not really sure what the prohawk head is doing atm; the VCA D2 was lacklustre and i expected more from the analysis

dram i dunno. he's done nothing this game, really. could be coasting scum. negative track result doesn't mean as much when scum had a ninja performing the kill. Varsoon (L-4): ActionDan | dramonic | Mac | Lush Life | GoodCop_BadCop | The Chamber of Kittens | Varsoon <- either him or GCBC for second scum on this wagon, i think

i didn't really like anything the tsukasa-slot did. the tone of his posts and the way he was approaching things looked like scum. replacement hasn't been here. very likely scum

and saki is being saki
katarina wrote:Muffin give your reads and stop fucking procrastinating, next post has to be long and have player names
i believe it was confucius who first said, "suck on my chocolate salty balls."

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:04 am
by zMuffinMan
cabd

what are your current reads?

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:09 am
by zMuffinMan
also what are your thoughts on 3056 and 3058?

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:38 am
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 3048, Jaqen Hghar wrote: A man thinks a man prior was correct after all. GoodCopBadCop is definitely a BAD Cop and must needs have his neck stretched.
And here I started to like you D2... guess it wasn't you after all?

Muffin, I was taking it easy since Cabd told me that we had a cop guilty entering D3... doesn't look to be that simple tho. What does concern me is you hunting the Varsoon wagon and not
your own quick wagon
. If you really are town, it should be pretty freaking obvious from the speed and reasoning behind your wagon that scum would be salivating to hop on.

I also don't like how you are writing off Varsoon as very very likely town because his D1 play points to him being town when I absolutely disagree, and echo Jaqen's sentiments re: Varsoon from D2.

I will let Cabd respond to your questions, since you specifically addressed him, but would like your thoughts on my comments.

Nacho, I realize that there is a possibility that Lush may have not gotten a guilty, but why are you talking like its the end of the world with "Why the fuck do towns have a tendency to start throwing shit away because "oooh, we're in the lead"?" That is absolutely NOT what is happening here. Are you trying to say there is a zero percent chance that Lush got a guilty? Cause that's pretty dumb and you are NOT a mafia god.

If there is a chance that Lush had a guilty and was trying to convey that in the form of a lynch push then we should be pursuing that avenue for lynch candidate today. You are also clearing Muffin solely on claim alone? I expect you to actually contribute and not be freaking dead-weight as town.

~GC

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:01 am
by zMuffinMan
gcbc wrote:What does concern me is you hunting the Varsoon wagon and not your own quick wagon. If you really are town, it should be pretty freaking obvious from the speed and reasoning behind your wagon that scum would be salivating to hop on.
it is hard to distinguish players who legitimately think there was a cop guilty on me from players who are pretending to, but if you actually read the reads i just gave, you'd see i was thinking about this (see the read on katarina, for example, and while i didn't explicitly state it, the bubba read is also partially influenced by his responses to me today).

also not really sure why this bothers you. suppose i do get lynched. how are you going to look back at the wagon on me and discern scum from town?
gcbc wrote:I also don't like how you are writing off Varsoon as very very likely town because his D1 play points to him being town when I absolutely disagree, and echo Jaqen's sentiments re: Varsoon from D2.
mm. it is largely a meta read - there are a lot of things that don't make sense about his play from the perspective he's scum. i went over this a lot D1 and you didn't seem to have an issue with it then :/

i read that jaqen post, and i don't agree with it at all. what "sentiments" do you "echo"? his point about #2063 didn't make a lot of sense to me because i don't think it was a slip and it's nonsensical for varsoon to say something like that in thread if he "us" was referring to his scum team. also disagree with the idea that he was sacrificing himself for the team; i went over this yesterday when i quoted the part of the thread where he voted gaiden.

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:03 am
by zMuffinMan
for reference, what i mentioned yesterday re: varsoon
In post 2826, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 2227, Messiah Complex wrote:
Vote Gaiden


Why go lva when they have been nonexistent all game?
In post 2228, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: Gaiden
Going fur it.
In post 2229, Varsoon wrote:It's a worthless mislynch, but it's a shot in the dark that's better than letting myself die.
this series of posts didn't look like it came from varsoon-scum knowing gaiden is scum and it kinda invalidates the theory he was protecting gaiden

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:02 am
by Katarina LeBlanc
The lack of CC is unnerving.

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:21 am
by ActionDan
As a rule D1 counter wagon to scum is town.

If Kise is 100% track giver than that's a cc. But if he gives different things then no (btw track is weak to give.)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:56 am
by Kagami
Flavor claiming, since I've already roleclaimed: I'm China.

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:14 am
by ActionDan
What are the other flavor claims.

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:19 am
by Kagami
Muffin has claimed Aya (very reasonable tracker)
I have a good idea who kise is
Kat is Yuyuko (very plausible oracle)
You are Remilia (not sure why a kill-cop, governor or redirector would make way more sense)
Varsoon is Tewi
bubba is Okuu

That's what I remember so far. I'm curious about GCBC's