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↑ jon_h61 wrote:Ok, I didn't really notice that. Does this mean you're seeing Saki as Town? Someone to keep around?

Yes.

↑ jon_h61 wrote:As far as Thor's "not paying attention", I just got home from a weekend of camping/fishing/ drinking/ and eating. Then a long drive. I did notice two dead scum!!! that's pretty cool. And I'm dealing with a new, unexpected member of the family. A two year old Pomeranian. He's still in the demanding attention stage. So yeah, I'm a little distracted. Scum though, no.

The accuracy of my reads is exciting to me when it works.

↑ RachMarie wrote:Suspicion of Thor is going up he is still with us and yeah that is weird.

How many scum directed kills do you think we've had thus far?

Well hi there night 3!

@Rach, why the suspicion of Thor?

Because I'm alive - she literally said that.

Same polarity, did not change, did not get changed.

Ok, so the biggest peices of information we have to work with are obviously that Titus and Doublade were scum so I'm just going to stream of consciousness and go from there.

The two biggest places we can go from on dead are the votes they have and the votes against them, I tend to favor the votes against them so since doublade never really had a big wagon going I'm going to start with titus.

Post#1975 is really the first place that titus has a reasonable sized wagon on him. the votes are

But what matters more are where the other votes are, and how those other votes sway throughout the day. When titus first has 5 votes the other biggest wagon is 3 on dry-fit.

between that point and the next votecount Rach, Doublade, and Eddie, all jump from on to ZZX, Rach and Dou from Dry-fit. I spect one of Rach and Eddie, but not both is scum from this and the fact that dou flipped scum as well. I'm also going to go ahead and put dry-fit on my town list just because of that interaction.

The next interesting interaction is in the spring starflower wagon as necro, Xay, and PN join me, Nero, and ZZX. Not quite sure what to make of this but I actually really like how PN pops on to spring for a moment and right back on to titus, in fact given starflower town, titus scum, and zzx town, I'm going to tentatively Slot PN in to my townpile.

Day 3 quickly starts off with titus and ZZX wagons, but with the ZZX wagon wavering the Saki wagon starts with the page 2758 votecount of Rach and eddie. It's interesting to me that those two appear together again, could have been wrong earlier, these might both be scum.

PN and Xay both get major townpoints for votecount 2851 where they are votes 5 and 6 on the titus wagon, that's not really a normal bus-point.

Thors backstage leading of the ZZX wagon from start to end worries me a bit, but on a completely unrelated note rach just voted him, so I think I might just be getting paranoid.

I will try to get to doublade tomorrow, though he didn't really do nearly as many useful things so I may not bother.

At the end of that kind of half connection half VCA game or perhaps I come out with the following list:


Xayzeck
Dry-fit
The Necromancers
Thor665
TiphaineDeath
Saki
Perpetual Nonsense


PeregrineV
Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Jon_h61
Jordan_Downey


RachMarie
Eddie Fenix

VOTE: Rach

Pedit, Apparently rach didn't vote thor, just suspicioned at him, my bad, still happy with this vote and list.

Well, calling ZZZX "backstage" leading from me aside - how did I end up in the town list in any case? You didn't note Doublade's push on me and that leaves the odd Rach mention of me today only as the towniest thing you're applying to me.

TD, so I only rate neutral off that ey, nice.

Thor, I've been townreading you forever, you would have to do something pretty scummy to end up on my shit list this game.

Town
TiphaineDeath
Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Jordan_Downey
Dry-fit
PeregrineV

Scum
RachMarie
The Necromancers
Eddie Fenix

Everyone else falls in the null, or I'm confused category.

Back at the beginning of the game, I mentioned having doubts about Thor's alignment. Thor mentioned (bragged) that he works hard to make the two indistinguishable. And I believe him. Him surviving into the latter Days worry me too. Bringing up Burden of Proficiency, Thor hasn't been any more accurate than me. I don't know if he's scum, or not. The only case I have, is, the longer he's alive, the more likely he's scum.

The Necromancers have pulled out of the game, and I don't know for sure what that's about. But I get this niggling they might be Town. Malakittens flipped Town, they were right on ZZZX, and a few other things make me think I've been wrong on them. I hope I'm wrong on them. Their interaction with Titus makes me want to lean Town on them.

Saki's another unknown. Saki's not even going to try to scum hunt, he's just going to be esoteric the whole game. If I was a vig, he'd be a target.

Gut says Perpetual Nonsense may be Town, but I don't have anything solid to back it up.

I really get the feeling EddieFenix is Town. His interactions with Thor, as well as with Titus and a few others make me believe I'm right.

I've been so far off this game, I don't think I'll be sorely missed as the game goes on. But anyone who wants to scum read (vote) me, I'd appreciate it if you'd make your reason for voting me clear. Even if it's just "sheeping Thor". It'll help the rest of Town pick out the scums hoping to ride a mislynch without drawing too much attention to themselves.

@ Rach I'll get around to reading your GTKAS, and I really, really do empathize. Though I don't have diabetes, I do deal with ongoing health issues that are unpleasant, and time consuming. Growing old, sometimes, sucks. I'll give your slot another look over, and I'll try to be open to being wrong.

I haven't read the thread through since back when Thor and I were the only ones voting ZZZX. I don't even know what happened to turn the Day back around to him. So, I'd best shut up and go read the end of Yesterday. Who knows, there may be things in that, that will make parts of this post obsolete.

Eddie fenix is on your scum list but "I really get the feeling EddieFenix is Town. His interactions with Thor, as well as with Titus and a few others make me believe I'm right." was a quote from that same post..... Really dude?

↑ Thor665 wrote:And Thor fer' Smurf's sake.

Tis the price of fame. Hell, I've never played with you, yet even I know how this works. I think I pretty much played out your whole playbook on it, sight unseen.

I see where Doublade was pushing for a Saki lynch, so maybe Saki gets left alone by me.

I'm not in the mood to sheep Thor. I'll probably just hang back and let the cards fall where they will, for now.

↑ jon_h61 wrote:I'm not in the mood to sheep Thor

I'm voting...you.

↑ TiphaineDeath wrote:Eddie fenix is on your scum list but "I really get the feeling EddieFenix is Town. His interactions with Thor, as well as with Titus and a few others make me believe I'm right." was a quote from that same post..... Really dude?

Really. I made that post over a few hours this morning. I pulled up his ISO to get a better feel for him. It was actually you calling him scum that made me ISO him. I'm pretty lost right now, so I might as well admit it and do what I can to try to make it better. The only way I know is read ISOs, look over player interactions, etc.

In my defense, I haven't seen anyone doing all that great in getting scum lynched.

@ Thor I know.

↑ TiphaineDeath wrote:Wow, so we have a Scumteam, an SK, A Vig, and

whole fuck load of switches that just got thrown

. I'll be back later tonight or earlyish tomorrow, probably with a big post and a vote.

What does this mean?

My basic most powerful mafia strategy is to set up equations where someone being town or someone being scum = someone else being scum or someone being town.

I got overexcited and it turned out to be an over-exaggeration, as you can see by the fact that I still have like 4 neutrals in my list, but when I saw two scum flips I thought I was going to be able to call the rest of the game.

Also@ jon, if you're lost you should sheep me and vote rach.

↑ TiphaineDeath wrote:Also@ jon, if you're lost you should sheep me and vote rach.

She has been my longest running scum read. I didn't like how she kept trying to say my case was "lurking" even though it never entered into my case. And the AtE was thick. But I can understand some of it. Getting that kind of news would make the best of us emotional. And, I've had an embarrassing blowup of AtE a few times myself. BUT my scum read preceded both the bad news, and the "lurking".

I don't remember what all was in my case on her, and she be right, she might be Town. It makes me almost feel bad to do this, like I was kicking a puppy or something... but

VOTE: Rach

This is the closest thing to a sure feeling I have ATM.

aphix, if you see this before you see me we need to talk tonight, badly. I've seen a couple of things recently and I need to ask somebody if I'm smoking peyote or if my thought bubbles make sense. If my thought bubbles make sense this game just got easy.

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:aphix, if you see this before you see me we need to talk tonight, badly. I've seen a couple of things recently and I need to ask somebody if I'm smoking peyote or if my thought bubbles make sense. If my thought bubbles make sense this game just got easy.

↑ TiphaineDeath wrote:Eddie fenix is on your scum list but "I really get the feeling EddieFenix is Town. His interactions with Thor, as well as with Titus and a few others make me believe I'm right." was a quote from that same post..... Really dude?

Glad you pointed this out, as I was just about to point this out myself.

I haven't had a chance to reread unfortunately. I want to know what people think of perpetual nonsense. Nacho wasn't much of a factor when he was in the game, and they haven't been either. Yet somehow two players placed them as town in their reads lists on this page. I don't like much of the content they have produced either.

This game is next on our priority list. One head is really busy and lazy.

This head has been having irl-related catchup issues, and is lazy too.

Also we haven't produced any content, so I'm guessing you mean you dislike much of our nonsensical postings of no content.

Lastly it sounds like you're gauging whether people are willing to vote us without committing to anything.

↑ EddieFenix wrote:Well hi there night 3!

@Rach, why the suspicion of Thor?

This first sentence makes us want to vote Eddie.

I think we will.

VOTE: Eddie