BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [END]

[Ydrasse]

the only thing i can really say about you solving the setup is that you're wrong about it + scum can like, bypass commuters + i exist to be found and killed by them if they lose that ability

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Unfortunately I'm going to be real, 'scum magical fairy commuter enabler' is such a brilliant and beautiful way of balancing this game that I am almost certainly not reevaluating because I want it to be true so badly. It makes literally every single thing in this setup work and make perfect sense. I am very unlikely to unvote you but you are welcome to convince other people, if you are scum, which I think you are, I think you have played brilliantly and I am honored to have gone up against your scumgame. If you're town.... Whoops! I got trolled real hard by the setup. But I am pretty sure you're scum now

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

the only thing i can really say about you solving the setup is that you're wrong about it + scum can like, bypass commuters + i exist to be found and killed by them if they lose that ability

This is entirely possible, I just think this reasoning is why you decided to trueclaim half of your role

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

I am going to sleep, have a great night ydrasse!

[Ydrasse]

right now replacement's reasons for scumreading my play feel really shallow and like, just not true? idk why i'm singled out as the ~townread wolf~ without much basis/explanation, the takes on my reads don't reference what was actually happening at the time, and the like, analysis on my playstyle feels so fucking dumb given that the best thing i can do to self-pres is not be obvious in things i do, self-pres included

Do you think replacement is wrong or do you think shelly was scum all along?

replacement's catchup feels scummy as fuck for how it frames me but i feel i have a decent grasp on reading shelly as scum given i've played with her quite a bit and i wasn't getting the feeling i usually do that it's a Classic Shelly Scumgame to me

if she was scum she's playing an arguably better game than she normally does fmpov, and at this point a scum within gypyx/shelly is like... yeah possible? the first thing that pops to mind is that weird as fuck back and forth they had about being ic together for their roles but that doesn't tell me

who

is being weird for like, dumb reasons or weird for possible scum reasons

which feels shitty rn because i feel like i should be able to sit down and sort out "okay, This Is The Scum" and i can't right now!! because i don't fucking know

[Ydrasse]

Unfortunately I'm going to be real, 'scum magical fairy commuter enabler' is such a brilliant and beautiful way of balancing this game that I am almost certainly not reevaluating because I want it to be true so badly. It makes literally every single thing in this setup work and make perfect sense. I am very unlikely to unvote you but you are welcome to convince other people, if you are scum, which I think you are, I think you have played brilliantly and I am honored to have gone up against your scumgame. If you're town.... Whoops! I got trolled real hard by the setup. But I am pretty sure you're scum now

i don't want to be like, mean and i feel like i'm being mean by saying this right now but the reason for not re-evaluating me sucks. wanting to be right over everything else/proving shit is like... red flag poking up for me like oh wow, maybe this is just a way for you to hunker down on pushing through an elim on me and then show up tomorrow like "sorry guys! i just thought my solve was the solve hehe!" and then you probably still get away with it

like i appreciate the compliment LMFAO but in this case you're either just wrong or you're Nefarious

[Ydrasse]

i wish this cat looked more distraught/angry than smug because it'd encapsulate how i felt rn

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Btw when ydrasse flips red I can also explain why sam is town off setup spec yaaaay

Soorry passing out now I'lll post that explain tomorrow if she's not hammered yet

[Ydrasse]

i feel like i'm fucking yelling into the void for nothing rn and it's frustrating so i'm going to bed now good night thread

[Klick]

Reading TGP

I think TGP is town here.

TGP likes playing scum and the lack of real presence (which matches with his rather LHF town meta) + interactions

Plenty of reasons for lack of presence. Has TGP fallen behind in a fast game as scum before? This game is fairly fast-paced.

[Gypyx]

I'll personally wait to see what ari got to say before hammering tbh

This is a strong contrast to what Gypyx did after the Ari slot started saying things

I always let peoples say what they have to say

And my reasons for SR'ing ari were that he was inactive day 1, where town kinda seemed to roll unnoposed, and same for the wagon on bell, which like, unless scum is hyperbussing, we should have had more trouble to get through

Also i think HUB very likely was targeted by bell's fruit vend N1 as no one claimed it so we can consider him as conftown ~i think~, like 95%

[Klick]

Also i think HUB very likely was targeted by bell's fruit vend N1 as no one claimed it so we can consider him as conftown ~i think~, like 95%

Why HUB specifically? PoE?


Shelly replacement is posting good stuff.
I felt really strongly on reading that Ydrasse was town, and Mafia Commuter Enabler feels icky af to me as a role. This setup looks horribly unbalanced to me without her role as well. Like I'll go back and look at her ISO when I get a chance but it really doesn't feel right.

[Replacement for shellyc]

So btw more reasons to scumread Ydrasse by play

- Singlemindedness on Samantha throughout - lack of trajectory when new info comes in
- Lack of strong takes other than samantha, fence-sitting on Vax/Bell (pre-guilt) in crucial moments.
- Off the Vax wagon
- Bell's nonchalantness with dying prob points to one rather townread wolf - Ydrasse.
- Town comm enabler means Ydrasse dying = town loses lots of power, Ydrasse's play isn't very self-pres at all even after the multiple comms claimed

Ydra/Sam seems p unlikely given ydrasse's push there so ydra/gypyx?????

so like, this is flat out isn't true, i've been firm in my townreads as they've formed over time and i've been trying to consider who's scum this game; for vax, i came to the conclusion that vax was probably scum in 938 and was willing to hammer it and said so and the only reason i wasn't on the wagon was because vax's next post came when i wasn't even awake and it was like, a final chance for him to actually post a claim bc he was being stubborn as fuck (which like, obvious why now), so idk why you think that's fencesitting? i think it's like, you can say that about bell maybe because my read fluxuated on him i guess?

and i don't get why my play should be hyper-survivalistic after i've outed my role? like before i didn't feel a need to do anything special bc 1) it wasn't as if people were looking to elim me at all so i didn't need to fight away anything and 2) i'm not going to crumb anything like that at all to give REASON that i should be acting so strongly about me living and give a sign to the mafia that hey, i am someone important maybe you should kill!

also i like, don't even know why bell being nonchalant would even point to me? i wouldn't even call him that since he posted a big ass wallpost in an effort to sway people last minute and was trying to ask people to sway their votes away from him like "you guys really believe bef?" that's desperate more than anything

This is a classic scumpost

Yes that is the problem you've not been re-evaluating and you haven't held a stance to who scum is honestly

You came to the conclusion that vax was scum but did you do anything about it?

You did not be hyper-survivalistic before you outed your role

"Big wallpost = opposite of nonchalance" is not true my dude. You are surface-levelling; Bell did not make more than a cursory attempt to fight back, the pushback was discrediting and had no substance, I would not have bought into Bell's defense

[Replacement for shellyc]

pkay, that makes more sense, it was pretty frustrating to read that because it's something completely out of my control beyond like... a player doing something to rope me in?

I agree with my pred that you are emotionally reacting in a disproportionate way comparing to what I'm putting forth

[Replacement for shellyc]

right now replacement's reasons for scumreading my play feel really shallow and like, just not true? idk why i'm singled out as the ~townread wolf~ without much basis/explanation, the takes on my reads don't reference what was actually happening at the time, and the like, analysis on my playstyle feels so fucking dumb given that the best thing i can do to self-pres is not be obvious in things i do, self-pres included

This is classic discrediting

"Replacements reasons for scumreading me feel shallow/not true" instead of "replacement is scummy for blah blah blah"

I deliberately did not put forth my case on you in much detail to

bait out this response

from scum!you

[Gypyx]

Also i think HUB very likely was targeted by bell's fruit vend N1 as no one claimed it so we can consider him as conftown ~i think~, like 95%

Why HUB specifically? PoE?


Shelly replacement is posting good stuff.
I felt really strongly on reading that Ydrasse was town, and Mafia Commuter Enabler feels icky af to me as a role. This setup looks horribly unbalanced to me without her role as well. Like I'll go back and look at her ISO when I get a chance but it really doesn't feel right.

We have 3 VT claims

You
HUB
TGP

I don't see scum ever checking you / TGP N1, and HUB claimed VT, which could be seen as a big WIFOM play by scum

[Replacement for shellyc]

replacement's catchup feels scummy as fuck for how it frames me but i feel i have a decent grasp on reading shelly as scum given i've played with her quite a bit and i wasn't getting the feeling i usually do that it's a Classic Shelly Scumgame to me

if she was scum she's playing an arguably better game than she normally does fmpov, and at this point a scum within gypyx/shelly is like... yeah possible? the first thing that pops to mind is that weird as fuck back and forth they had about being ic together for their roles but that doesn't tell me who is being weird for like, dumb reasons or weird for possible scum reasons

which feels shitty rn because i feel like i should be able to sit down and sort out "okay, This Is The Scum" and i can't right now!! because i don't fucking know

Fence-sitting

[Replacement for shellyc]

Plenty of reasons for lack of presence. Has TGP fallen behind in a fast game as scum before? This game is fairly fast-paced.

Let me check

I don't think I've seen scum!TGP in a large

[Gypyx]

Plenty of reasons for lack of presence. Has TGP fallen behind in a fast game as scum before? This game is fairly fast-paced.

Let me check

I don't think I've seen scum!TGP in a large

But have you seen town!tgp?

[Replacement for shellyc]

Plenty of reasons for lack of presence. Has TGP fallen behind in a fast game as scum before? This game is fairly fast-paced.

Let me check

I don't think I've seen scum!TGP in a large

But have you seen town!tgp?

Yes

He was fairly LHF in that game

[Replacement for shellyc]

i mean MBoS10 btw

[Boonskiies]

Day 4

Vote Count 4.06

TheGoldenParadox [3]:

Happy Birthday Boonskiies, Ydrasse, Klick

Klick [2]:

TheGoldenParadox, Samantha97,

Ydrasse [1]:

Replacement for Shellyc

Not Voting [2]:

Happy Unbirthday Boon, Gypyx

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December 22nd.

Mod Notes

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[Gypyx]

i'll try to readd that game

[Gypyx]

Oh god 333 pages

On second thoughts, i'm *not* doing that

[samantha97]

I am town

since you're kind of a 3rd party, can you make an objective case for you being town over gypyx? personally I always felt shellyc had more town posts but more mafia-like roleclaims and the inverse for gypyx