Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:34 am
look im sorry if you're right and gamma is somehow town despite like, literally giving up when they're about to get eliminated in lylo
this vote happened 23 hours agoIn post 2909, petapan wrote:i skimmed his iso one last time to be sure and didn't see enough to make me doubt myself
VOTE: gamma emerald
but you don't even think twice about what i'm saying could be realIn post 3048, innocentvillager wrote:im reading your posts and i don't see why the Dunn/DV thing has to be scum blitzing
it could be real
im still 90-95% sure gamma is scumIn post 3051, Iconeum wrote:simple math says that if ur *that* sure about scumerald, you'd have voted there by now
hence, ur not as sure as you are saying
which means part of what i'm saying is getting thru, right?
but you don't even consider the risk that scum!me would be taking by night actions and claim playIn post 3049, innocentvillager wrote:it's also just kind of an unnecessary risk that they would have had to have taken at start of day
the agenda is that he's burnt out frm playing all these scumgames and getting elimmed so he's not really trying anymoreIn post 2981, Iconeum wrote:gamma literally has no agenda in his playIn post 2905, innocentvillager wrote:gamma/iconeum/midway could be the solve hm
i think im feeling gamma/midway as probable scum and DV/Iconeum has the hard f3 choice now
scummy vibe from giving up? I get that
but he tried to reach out and work with me... vs DV and Dunn who magically alligned their reads all of a sudden?
come oooonnnnnnnn
this came after town did nothing for 3 days. i think you got greedy and changed strategies with all the town apathy you think you saw and tried to power a town vote onto town!DV or town!DunnIn post 2985, Iconeum wrote:nice theoryIn post 2917, innocentvillager wrote:theory is that MWB/Gamma/Ico are praying we go Gamma -> DV -> MWB v Ico and are setting up the Ico v MWB on f3 to make us think we're on the right track there, but hopefully running through DV on D5
it makes more sense to for scum to set up DV as a miselimination, especially with DV as the counterwagon to Albert on d5
this makes a lot of sense for a scum agenda, actually
how does my hard defense of gamma fit in here? for this to actually be a thing, i'd be bussing gamma already, no?
elaborated aboveIn post 2986, Iconeum wrote:sure, and i'm just straight up denying the bus as scum, who are setting up said bus? ???????In post 2918, innocentvillager wrote:im not wording this well but what i mean is that, if DV is town, scum's agenda is certainly to set up DV for a miselim, regardless of how they try to do that
one such vector, that I'm positing above, is that they bus Gamma, gamma flips (so gamma is intentionally giving up rn to set up the narrative for Gamma/DV/? team), then we flashwagon DV the next day to stall Ico v MWB, and then scum wins on DV's flip
you can always kill a confirmable townie later?In post 2987, Iconeum wrote:i'm not saying my nightplay and claims fully or auto clear me, i'm saying they heavily suggest thatIn post 2924, innocentvillager wrote:yes, he did say thatIn post 2922, petapan wrote:actually didn't ico explicitly say he thought datisi was ascetic lmaoIn post 2921, innocentvillager wrote:meanwhile, datisi even softed being a PR on D2, and im sure the scumteam can think of reasons to kill Datisi potential strong PR like Ascetic X over lol!FriendlyNeighbor. we don't have all the information as town, maybe they're informed, maybe XYZ idefk.
as either alignment, he thought Datisi could have been Ascetic X
Datisi is a strong player and potentially could've been a huge asset to helping us solve today too, and Iconeum knows that as well
im saying there's plenty of reasons for us to not clear Iconeum on his claimed nightplay
and 'just' a conftown? Not a thing. I knew this was gonna be a heavy pr game before entering (knowing gypyx as a mod). A CONFIRMEABLE townie is a HUGE kill. A datisi that is townreading me is a HUGE asset for scum!me.
autoclear? no
town!indicative? i think yes
it's not town!indicative from dunnstralIn post 2988, Iconeum wrote:so a weak reason to switch my read on you is scum!indicative of meIn post 2926, innocentvillager wrote:i get that these are two separate points in the game, but this interaction definitely pinged meso im like, completely within my scumrange from 2175 on D2, suggesting that he's thinking about that game when evaluating me a lotthe next day, he's clearly been thinking about (or at least pretending to think about) my alignmentthen when i bring up the self-meta point how this is out of my scumrange, he immediately goes, "oh yeah, fair point, you're liekly to be town"it pings because the first quote suggests that he is considering 2175 to evaluate me strongly, but somehow in reading me in between those time periods, im still a strong candidate for scum. Then all i have to do is bring the scumrange argument up again, and he flips 180 on me? really? im supposed to believe that he hasn't been thinking about my play in relation to 2175 this whole time, and only now was reminded of it?it's certainly possible from town!ico, but i have to admit that this pinged me and reads as not a genuine read on me
but ZERO reason from dunn to switch reads on DV is town!indicative?
gtfo
i don't think it's as crazy as you think, this stuff happens to scum?Iconeum wrote:ok last shot
Does nobody find it strange that EVERY OTHER SLOT OUTSIDE OF ME AND GAMMA is fine by yeeting gamma?
also, im not saying scumrange is a weak reason at allIn post 2988, Iconeum wrote:so a weak reason to switch my read on you is scum!indicative of meIn post 2926, innocentvillager wrote:i get that these are two separate points in the game, but this interaction definitely pinged meso im like, completely within my scumrange from 2175 on D2, suggesting that he's thinking about that game when evaluating me a lotthe next day, he's clearly been thinking about (or at least pretending to think about) my alignmentthen when i bring up the self-meta point how this is out of my scumrange, he immediately goes, "oh yeah, fair point, you're liekly to be town"it pings because the first quote suggests that he is considering 2175 to evaluate me strongly, but somehow in reading me in between those time periods, im still a strong candidate for scum. Then all i have to do is bring the scumrange argument up again, and he flips 180 on me? really? im supposed to believe that he hasn't been thinking about my play in relation to 2175 this whole time, and only now was reminded of it?it's certainly possible from town!ico, but i have to admit that this pinged me and reads as not a genuine read on me
but ZERO reason from dunn to switch reads on DV is town!indicative?
gtfo
holy fucking shit are you kidding meIn post 3066, petapan wrote:i really don't have the patience to wake up and wade through 50 posts of pure noise from iconeum now
to be clearIn post 3063, Iconeum wrote:i don't have anything to add to my cases here, other then going around in circles
as for your 'elaborate please'
your point is that scum are setting up gamma to bus
your point is that i'm scum
i'm clearly not setting up gamma to bus
?????
i can't fight 5 other people on my own here
i can handle 1 or 2 scumbuts
but not 5
i'll give the credit to other people given that i didn't have anything on you despite suspecting that one claim was fake, but thanks?In post 3067, Iconeum wrote:holy fucking shit are you kidding meIn post 3066, petapan wrote:i really don't have the patience to wake up and wade through 50 posts of pure noise from iconeum now
fine
i'm out for today
go congratulate yourselves with how you caught gamma and me