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In post 3054, Bell wrote:Whoops I mixed up games my bad. I retract everything I just said and keep the question for grayice to explain within this game’s context if he can when he has time.

In post 3059, Tammy wrote:Nacho is home for a little while after being out of town for a week before he leaves for another week. We were going to play mafia independently when he got home, but he and LLD were very rudely shot just before he got home, so we're doing something else.

I'm not sure about DGB. I don't really understand their read on me? Yes, that's a scumtell that they use pretty regularly, but they stopped using scumtells like that on me quite a while ago and always said they can read my tone, and it came after a good 12-hour chunk of time where I was here and posting. I thought maybe interaction would help with my read there, and I was interested in their GreyIce read since I'm pretty sure they played together a bit in the before time, but I think I'm on their foe list now and so I guess I don't get a response.

I did skim their play in wall street and that's the type of play I mostly expect whereas here it feels different, but I do not know what to make of that.

Oh I think i know what they're hinting to prism mayyyybe, but if it happens to be that DGB gave Prism an artifact then there is scum in DGB or Cakez. (I don't think that is, but Prism's response left me wondering if that could be it.)

LLD - Thanks! And fair enough.

I thought I had something else but it's late and I'm tired

In post 3060, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3054, Bell wrote:Whoops I mixed up games my bad. I retract everything I just said and keep the question for grayice to explain within this game’s context if he can when he has time.

What game did you mean then?

Is like nobody going to note how Bell seems to be inventing reasons to scumread me?

Like I get wanting your question answered but like can you all explain how you’re townreading Bell when this is like the 7th (hyperbole) time I have asked him to expand why and he either can’t or it’s factually incorrect?

I am having a hard time seeing how people are townreading Bell. Would love an explanation.

In post 3059, Tammy wrote:Nacho is home for a little while after being out of town for a week before he leaves for another week. We were going to play mafia independently when he got home, but he and LLD were very rudely shot just before he got home, so we're doing something else.

In post 2954, Tammy wrote:Cakez - Thank you for writing your case, not necessarily because it tells me anything new about Pooky, but I kinda want to put to bed my suspicions on you for it, I think.

THESIS
Pooky's entire day 1 strategy revolved around buddying people and coasting until he got pressure from me for it. After that point, he dedicated the rest of his day to an essentially OMGUS push on me INCLUDING SIGNIFICANTLY AT THE KEY POINT WHERE IT WAS EITHER MASTINA OR I WHO WAS GOING TO BE ELIMMED.
He did not perform ANY original scumhunting day 1 - all of his pushes day 1 consist of either sheeping or attacking people who attacked him.
He used being leashed to LLD as an excuse to not take responsibility for his vote.
He repeatedly expressed fake-ass indignation that anyone could be scumreading him - despite all of the above.

Not on my computer at the moment, so I’m just pulling that. I agree that all of these are problematic from Pooky, they are in large part why he’s been giving me problems this game, and every time he tries to use the Mastina protocol or whatever it is to say he’s confirmed town, I want to reach through my screen and rip the stuffing outta that bear. And while I don’t think typically scum actually try to abdicate responsibility for their vote in such a blatant way, the leashing thing is stupid and juvenile and I wish they’d stop.

So this is mostly to say that I read your case, I understand and some of those things bother me too, except the buddying as a buddies myself it’s not inherently scummy, but I’m not entirely sure it’s from scum. I wish I had experience with Pooky town to know if my concerns aren’t just playstyle rather than alignment indicative. I have appreciated his thread health moments that haven’t felt like posturing. And I liked his post about the mason issue because in a sense it felt like he was opening himself up to suspicion on that part, and we both know that he’ll happily pretend to be a mason as scum. And the moments in Between the above feel natural and I like his presence at those times. The possibility that he could be a mason too is enough for me to consider he’s just town here as well.

In post 2965, Titus wrote:@Cakez, We agree on practically everything, yet you feel my posts are bad. Cog dis?

In post 2968, Titus wrote:Bork is a bad elimination.

It's DGB BM and one of Cakez/Pooky/Math/LLD.

In post 2982, Tammy wrote:

In post 2957, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:hey so

Prism what's your feelings on bork

Can you talk about your read on greyice at some point?

I’ll admit to not being the best greyice reader. I’m pretty sure one of the only times I got his alignment correct was when we were masons, and most of the other times he’s been in my possible or decently strong townreads as scum, so a little help would be nice because he’s not in my town reads right now.

My first concern was the way he called you scum, and a few times threw out the possibility of you as scum. He does not scum read you. I went back and looked at alisae and pine I think it was, which I had loosely followed, and he clearly scum read you there and pointed out why, whereas here there is no bite. Here’s my question is this just a kinda trolling interaction he’s having with you because why not and that’s totally cool if so OR is he feigning a bit of paranoia at you?)

I thought he started the Mastina wagon yesterday but looking back over things that isn’t the case. He was third after mathblade and bell though mathblade didn’t stick around for long, and his vote on Mastina was almost from a dare by Mastina to get on the wagon, which he did. I do very much like his interactions with Mastina because he called her out on all her bullshit, but I would have expected him to rally the troops onto Mastina more than he did.

His titus push feels off, mainly the argument that she read Mastina iso and saw how bad she looked and was responding out of that oh shit kinda of way, which doesn’t ring true when titus was aware of Mastina s treatment of her yesterday, and recognizing that scums treatment of you was wrong can easily come from town too. (I know that’s not the crux of his case but that bit hit wrong)

His bit about prism being scum and he got there by accident and is just that good hit wrong too.

Are these dumb concerns?

In post 2990, Prism wrote:Maybe I should just give up the ghost and accept that DGB is God itself, correct reads up and down the board with no sweat, calmly and patiently pointing out every error made by others like a Zen master....except to whack Titus with the "ur bad" bat ofc

But to me this slot is blatantly informed about alignments between Pooky, Cakez, Titus, me/Math, etc. and throwing LLD in scumleans awhile back does not change this imo

In post 3019, Bell wrote:Can we not wait until the last minute to eliminate someone this time?

In post 3024, Prism wrote:Current ordered preference: GI, DGB, Titus, Cakez, Dunn, Math, BM