Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Chara]

Flea: putting aside that i'm not scum, you think Yin was forced to answer those criminal questions correctly? he answered a lot of questions with random stuff, if he wanted to avoid answering the criminal poe questions wouldn't he just have done that?
he did give the correct answer about the number of mafia i believe, but also said there were three factions.

and yes, it fulfilled the scum wincon at the time to have Infinity and Nakata as criminals, but what about now? it says mafia were aware that the true wincons would be revealed. i'd assume Yin was also aware.

[Amy Dunne]

If Flea was supposed to be one of the scum who gets nominated in this phase... lol

It makes more sense for it to be Pooky/clidd/Chara

Before you all throw the baby out with the bathwater: Yin did tell us Infinity and Nakata were criminals, right?

Pooky was also on Robert wagon.

[Chara]

according to Yin, the criminals are Infinity/Nakata/Chara/Tanner.

[Amy Dunne]

Unless they were tripling up on the "Play weird and get town to kill you" strategy for some reason, maybe to stop too many townies from getting limmed? Idk

Pooky was also on Ircher wagon. So he was onboard with voting out two slots that flipped town. Look at who was opposing Robert and Ircher wagons, because that’s clearly why Infinity and Nakata opposed their lims.

[Chara]

The clock... doesn't move.

"Don't like this sunlight."

The man isn't wearing his suit and top hat anymore. White is traded in for non-descript black. He isn't making a spectacle of himself here. The sun washes out the landscape and bleaches out the color.

"Something bad is happening in this city." She nods at him, but doesn't look as upset as he does. "Right, right. Keep the poker face up."

Yin

, are there criminals inside of Amy, Ydrasse, and Nakata?

Yes there is.

Yin

, How many mafia are scum?

All of them.

@Yin:

Do you trust us?

You can only trust yourself.

yin

, is there a criminal between clidd, Ydrasse, and Ircher?

The novel 1984 was published in the year 1949.

Yin

: is there a criminal in Nakata/Amy/Ydrasse?

George Orwell's real name was Ernest Arnold Blanche.

Yin answered Tweet's question but not Tanner's or mine. though i'm not counting mine because i accidentally asked the exact group Tweetie just did.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im actually thinking maybe flea is town because theres no way anyone picks flea to endgame over infinity

[Amy Dunne]

according to Yin, the criminals are Infinity/Nakata/Chara/Tanner.

Since Yin detonated Ircher to cause chaos I think primarily. Had he not done so, we would just lim outside of Tanner/Chara.

Not he may have been lying to us about who the criminals, or he may have just been partially lying. We have no way of knowing.

Ydrasee is my #1 tr by meta but scum wants us now to doubt her as well as Pooky. I still also hard tr Tweet. We need to lim 4 townies to win and no more mafia, so I think with those 3 we’re good.

Chara wanting to lim Nakata > Infinty doesn’t make a lot of sense if it’s scum, so who was most opposed to Ircher and Robert lims, that’s possibly where you might find scum.

Pooky was hardpushing for Ircher lim as was Tweetie and Pooky and Ydrasse were down with Robert.

[Amy Dunne]

The clock... doesn't move.

"Don't like this sunlight."

The man isn't wearing his suit and top hat anymore. White is traded in for non-descript black. He isn't making a spectacle of himself here. The sun washes out the landscape and bleaches out the color.

"Something bad is happening in this city." She nods at him, but doesn't look as upset as he does. "Right, right. Keep the poker face up."

Yin

, are there criminals inside of Amy, Ydrasse, and Nakata?

Yes there is.

Yin

, How many mafia are scum?

All of them.

@Yin:

Do you trust us?

You can only trust yourself.

yin

, is there a criminal between clidd, Ydrasse, and Ircher?

The novel 1984 was published in the year 1949.

Yin

: is there a criminal in Nakata/Amy/Ydrasse?

George Orwell's real name was Ernest Arnold Blanche.

Yin answered Tweet's question but not Tanner's or mine. though i'm not counting mine because i accidentally asked the exact group Tweetie just did.

So, what is your take on that then?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we are at:

2 mafia
5 townies
1 IC

and we need to get rid of 4 townies before 2 mafia

so if we r wrong on 2 townies we just lose

[Chara]

So, what is your take on that then?

i think Yin could choose what questions to answer with nonsense or not, and wasn't forced to answer the criminal questions.

[Amy Dunne]

im actually thinking maybe flea is town because theres no way anyone picks flea to endgame over infinity

Why not? Flea is decent as scum.

Scum would have likely been opposed to both Ircher/Robert wagons, so whomever was hard opposed to both might be scum right?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think infinity is better at deepwolfing than flea and most people in this game so if she decided to tank it should mean the two scum left are better at deepwolfing than she is.

[clidd]

What's your solve in a town!clidd world, pooky?

[Chara]

of course scum wouldn't actually want town eliminated, but i'd think they would have to pretend otherwise on some level. scum knew that the real wincons would be revealed, and that they would have to endgame. it's like how in a normal game, scum obviously don't want their buddies eliminated, but bussing is still a thing for towncred.
it's pretty much Isis's Undertale spare mechanic.

[Amy Dunne]

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Votecount 1.24

(FINAL)

[7] Infinity 324:

Tanner, Ydrasse, NorwegianboyEE, Amy Dunne, Ircher, Chara, clidd

HAMMER

[3] Ircher:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Robert M Hunter, Morning Tweet

[2] Satoru Nakata:

Infinity 324, Flea The Magician

[1] Morning Tweet:

Satoru Nakata

With 13 alive, it took 7 to sentence.

The deadline was (expired on 2021-07-07 18:10:20).

Joint moderator ISO.

Tweetie and Pooky are town for being on Ircher. I’m really kicking myself now for not hammering him. Oh well.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What's your solve in a town!clidd world, pooky?

i am at the beach rn and have not done even 2% of the work i need to do to re-orient myself

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

of course scum wouldn't actually want town eliminated, but i'd think they would have to pretend otherwise on some level. scum knew that the real wincons would be revealed, and that they would have to endgame. it's like how in a normal game, scum obviously don't want their buddies eliminated, but bussing is still a thing for towncred.
it's pretty much Isis's Undertale spare mechanic.

i imagine isis and hectic were cackling when they made this setup

undertale with spares only but we dont tell them we are sparing rofl

[Amy Dunne]

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Votecount 2.5

(FINAL)

[6] Robert M Hunter:

Ydrasse, Tanner, Robert M Hunter, Ircher, clidd, PookyTheMagicalBear

HAMMER

[1] Satoru Nakata:

Morning Tweet

[1] Flea The Magician:

Chara

[1] Tanner:

Flea The Magician

[2] Not Voting:

Amy Dunne, Satoru Nakata

With 11 alive, it took 6 to sentence.

The deadline was (expired on 2021-07-17 20:00:50).

Joint moderator ISO.

Ydrasse and Tanner, Clidd, Pooky were on Robert.

It’s also possible scum could have tried to trick us, we should probably use play/meta/interactions as our most reliable tools.

I’m going to re-ISO Infinity and ISO Nakata.

But now we know why Infinity tunnelled Nakata so hard.

[Amy Dunne]

i think infinity is better at deepwolfing than flea and most people in this game so if she decided to tank it should mean the two scum left are better at deepwolfing than she is.

But scum wincon here is comparible to Trust Fall, is it not?

Scum need to die, not endgame.

[Amy Dunne]

The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.

They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-

Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her

EVEN HER.

His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.

If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.

His fingers snap.

DETONATE.

Yin

, why did you detonate Ircher? I thought you were a NPA?

Now I have a mason PT with Yang, also allegedly an NPA.

Maybe Yin and Yang are not in fact NPAs but maybe stumps and Hectic was actually lying to us about that?

[Chara]

i think infinity is better at deepwolfing than flea and most people in this game so if she decided to tank it should mean the two scum left are better at deepwolfing than she is.

i don't know Infinity's scumgame at all, but Flea's scumgame isn't bad. that said, if it was the plan for fae to endgame, i don't think this is how fae does it at all.
but it's not 100% that the game actually went to plan for scum. it doesn't seem like Nakata at least was purposely tanking like Infinity was, his day 1 seemed to be normal solving and trying to look town. maybe he was intending to endgame and then had to be eliminated when it didn't work out.

GTH i would say Tanner/Ydrasse/me/either Pooky or clidd, but i'm worried i won't be able to be townread enough to offset the paranoia so i can't really count on being in the pool.Tweetie could absolutely still be town but part of my townread on her besides general energy level and vibes was her voting scum and her Robert townread. there was no reason for scum Tweetie to stick her neck out for Robert like that, but knowing that scum didn't want him eliminated and he was anyway she's the one i'm concerned about the most atm.

[Amy Dunne]

Hectic, have you been lying to us about Yin and Yang being NPAs and are they actually in fact stumps?

[Chara]

of course scum wouldn't actually want town eliminated, but i'd think they would have to pretend otherwise on some level. scum knew that the real wincons would be revealed, and that they would have to endgame. it's like how in a normal game, scum obviously don't want their buddies eliminated, but bussing is still a thing for towncred.
it's pretty much Isis's Undertale spare mechanic.

i imagine isis and hectic were cackling when they made this setup

undertale with spares only but we dont tell them we are sparing rofl

yeah. once again i have been dragged into a townhunting setup against my will. because coalition went so well the last time.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when i say endgame i mean the 2 scum at the end of the game. they have much harder time getting out than the 2 scum in the beginning of the game

[Chara]

actually it did go well, i just played 0 part in the victory and spent the whole game paranoid of the town leader.