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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:03 am
by Dwlee99
I don't think it is Toog here but can compromise over F&G with enchant
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:19 am
by Fun and Games
In post 2976, VP Baltar wrote:
Pookys argument is the that the a50 event was a crucial play by me where i was trying to hammer home a Gamma misyeet.
I'm saying that if I'm scum, me killing a50 and revealing his alignment to the town would be a suboptimal play if I was scum. It would invite blowback and criticism against me, when there were many other kills presumably that would not.
i guess in my mind, while the blowback on a50 isn't great if you're scum, it isn't really a factor i would take as scum when decidding to kill him, if that makes sense
and who else was scum-you going to kill anyways?
~ skitter
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:19 am
by Fun and Games
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:22 am
by Fun and Games
i mean i don't know if that's a towncase so much as me disagreeign with toog's scumcase
but yeah i'm not sure he hammers both of them, and i think he would try to ~modulate~ himself to look better if scum if that makes sense
~ skitter
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:22 am
by Fun and Games
In post 3024, Dwlee99 wrote:skitter repeating my scumread on them is bad WHILE THEY IGNORE THE EXPLANATION THEY ASKED FOR
you wanna requote it?
~ skitter
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:23 am
by Fun and Games
andante you change your mind a lot lol
i think dueling vp and dwlee wagons would be great
~ skitter
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:24 am
by Andante
In post 3055, Fun and Games wrote:andante you change your mind a lot lol
i think dueling vp and dwlee wagons would be great
~ skitter
yeahhhh lol but like, just look at Toog(Dunn) and Enchant, I really do think that's the team
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:24 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3051, Fun and Games wrote: In post 2976, VP Baltar wrote:
Pookys argument is the that the a50 event was a crucial play by me where i was trying to hammer home a Gamma misyeet.
I'm saying that if I'm scum, me killing a50 and revealing his alignment to the town would be a suboptimal play if I was scum. It would invite blowback and criticism against me, when there were many other kills presumably that would not.
i guess in my mind, while the blowback on a50 isn't great if you're scum, it isn't really a factor i would take as scum when decidding to kill him, if that makes sense
and who else was scum-you going to kill anyways?
~ skitter
Haven't thought about it since I'm not in the position to consider. But Bingle has some fairly universal good will. It's not that I don't think a50 would have been considered, but what I'm saying is that it is half as crucial as pooky is claiming, it would be a reason for me to not want that.
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:26 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3055, Fun and Games wrote:andante you change your mind a lot lol
i think dueling vp and dwlee wagons would be great
~ skitter
You seem very concerned with enchant not getting run up. Why's that?
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:28 am
by Andante
In post 3058, VP Baltar wrote: In post 3055, Fun and Games wrote:andante you change your mind a lot lol
i think dueling vp and dwlee wagons would be great
~ skitter
You seem very concerned with enchant not getting run up. Why's that?
You seem to want to challenge everything F&G say? Have you not seen me be "confident" in a million different things the past 24 hours??
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:28 am
by Andante
however, unless we wanna ego vote out VP (or whatever it's called) the team is simply Toog and Enchant
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:31 am
by Fun and Games
In post 3057, VP Baltar wrote:Haven't thought about it since I'm not in the position to consider. But Bingle has some fairly universal good will. It's not that I don't think a50 would have been considered, but what I'm saying is that it is half as crucial as pooky is claiming, it would be a reason for me to not want that.
ehhhhhhhh idk i'm still not sure i buy this or that this would be such a major factor in makign the nk
(at the very least i can't imagine it would be so important for me if i were making the kill in your position)
not sure i have much else to say on this point tho
~ skitter
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:31 am
by Fun and Games
In post 3058, VP Baltar wrote: In post 3055, Fun and Games wrote:andante you change your mind a lot lol
i think dueling vp and dwlee wagons would be great
~ skitter
You seem very concerned with enchant not getting run up. Why's that?
i don't think that that 'very concerned' matches the vibe of that post or really my entire trajectory today
~ skitter
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:32 am
by Andante
I was laughing at 3055 lol it didn't come off as "very concerned"
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:33 am
by Andante
Skitter, my only issue now though, is I don't think you or pooky sr enchant/toog (dun) and that's where I want to vote lol
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:36 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3059, Andante wrote: In post 3058, VP Baltar wrote: In post 3055, Fun and Games wrote:andante you change your mind a lot lol
i think dueling vp and dwlee wagons would be great
~ skitter
You seem very concerned with enchant not getting run up. Why's that?
You seem to want to challenge everything F&G say? Have you not seen me be "confident" in a million different things the past 24 hours??
I'm challenging them because they take every opportunity possible to nudge toward me despite having a fairly weak argument. I KNOW it is a misyeet they are angling for when it comes to me, and there is no way in hell I'm letting them do that easily. If I die, so be it, but I want their bullshit all on record for later so pooky can't go "oops lol" and try to blame it on me.
So yep, I will continue to challenge everything they say in regards to trying to yeet me today.
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:38 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3062, Fun and Games wrote: In post 3058, VP Baltar wrote: In post 3055, Fun and Games wrote:andante you change your mind a lot lol
i think dueling vp and dwlee wagons would be great
~ skitter
You seem very concerned with enchant not getting run up. Why's that?
i don't think that that 'very concerned' matches the vibe of that post or really my entire trajectory today
~ skitter
When enchant came up seriously as a wagon was when yall started badgering me incessantly to vote dwlee. When andante votes there, you pop up trying to nudge her away from her vote. So yeah, you seem to have an interest
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:40 am
by Enchant
Wait how you tied me and Toog
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:40 am
by Enchant
What you smok
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:51 am
by Sleepless Assassin
In post 3038, Andante wrote: In post 72, Enchant wrote: In post 69, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 27, Enchant wrote:If i was maf I would put Innocent Child, Jailkeeper and Tracker. More optimal i think.
lolno
Unless you have v high faith in your ability to hunt down TPR before you get whittled down to one I think IC vig cop is pretty much always optimal
Adding Vig is suicide.
but did Enchant add vig and say this? Like, that's what I genuinely don't get, why did maf give town vig? makes 0 sense to me lmao
If I was scum talking here about roles I'd be more likely to be as far off from what I actually picked as possible. I wouldn't personally want the conversation as either alignment though.
Andante wrote:
Just reading the single Dunn interaction, feels like talking to a partner/not taking it seriously/trying to go anywhere with it.
Isn't that kind of how Enchant talks to everyone? What do you think of them being counterwagons to each other Day 1?
skitter wrote:
i mean i don't know if that's a towncase so much as me disagreeign with toog's scumcase
I just meant in general nothing in that makes Enchant sound more likely to be town. The hammer thing is probably just playstyle. Some people would rather hammer than be the driving force and Enchant even made a comment very early Day 1 about preferring to strike later or something.
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:57 am
by Sleepless Assassin
In post 2391, Bingle wrote:
I definitely shouldn't be townread off the back of Dats dying, but thinking this is a reason I'd kill someone is hilarious, tbh.
Hi, my name is Bingle and I actively want to be scumread as scum. And also as town. In the former case because having something to defend against means I don't have to effort about generating reads and in the latter because analyzing why I'm being scumread helps me to generate reads. I truly despise being a UTR regardless of my alignment.
Maybe its the laughing smilie but something in this makes me think you expected me to know that despite it being a very weird thing if true.
Bingle wrote:
If you did hypoclaim yesterday please repeat yourself so I don't have to go searching.
Night 1 innocent result on Gamma.
Bingle wrote:
Also, I just realized that SA slipped back into the not linking his posts to the context and I'm not sure how to take that given the long conversation about the scum motivation behind that.
2413
Oh shit I forgot that.
20452391
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:31 am
by Toogeloo
Sorry, I'm here. What did I miss?
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:33 am
by Toogeloo
Endwalker came out Friday, so... Yeah.
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:35 am
by Toogeloo
In post 3060, Andante wrote:however, unless we wanna ego vote out VP (or whatever it's called) the team is simply Toog and Enchant
Ooo... Interesting solve.
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:35 am
by Dwlee99
This post
In post 2910, Dwlee99 wrote:I have a computer so now I can quote how this is BS
In post 2565, Dwlee99 wrote:For Bingle's request:
Andante - I think town for the energy that went into day two, but she has fallen off and I'm less sure of this now. I think her and VP are unlikely to both be scum so a red flip there would secure her as town for me.
Toogeloo - Town cause cop inno
Sleepless Assassin - I don't think I got a chance to see SA before this day phase so they were previously just poe. I want to townread them now just for the wall posts on the associatives but also it's just so much associatives and I want more reasoning from them that isn't fundamentally tied to that before I will feel really good about this slot.
Everyone else I'm big ??????? right now
So that's...
Bingle
Enchant
F&G
VP
I think F&G's push looks like how I bus so?
I say it could be a bus
Me furthering that VP and Pooky don't have to be aligned even if Pooky is scum
Here's a question I ask Pooky which gets ignored in the ensuing shit fight
A whole night passes and I have slept and enchant is making bad posts.
And THEN pooky jumps down my throat in reaction. Ignores
2639, ignores all of my posts suggesting it could be a bus, and only when I vote Enchant it's how I'm openwolfing and scum and blablabla chainsawing for enchant super hard
Which got this:
In post 2915, Fun and Games wrote: In post 2910, Dwlee99 wrote:And THEN pooky jumps down my throat in reaction. Ignores 2639, ignores all of my posts suggesting it could be a bus, and only when I vote Enchant it's how I'm openwolfing and scum and blablabla chainsawing for enchant super hard
rofl
i said vp baltar and dwlee were scum BEFORE you two ever voted for enchant so this is a pretty funny chainsaw defense accusation.
But this isn't even a response to what I'm saying. The point is that pooky might have been suggesting we were scum, but when I'm around before then he doesn't interact with me, only linking me to VP to push VP. Then when I vote enchant he THEN starts going head-to-head with me, which is the point of the interaction I'm highlighting. Calling me scum indirectly ("dwlee is VP's partner") is not the same as directly attacking me (which is the interaction after I voted Enchant) which is why I think it's a chainsaw specifically and not just an extension of already saying I'm scum
