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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:04 pm
by Datisi
vote count 4.06

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 4 ends in (expired on 2022-10-14 01:15:00).


firing
furtiveglance [3]:
mastina, PenguinPower, Ydrasse
Malakittens [2]:
fireisredsir, furtiveglance
Uncrowned [1]:
Andresvmb
Andresvmb [1]:
Dannflor
fireisredsir [1]:
Malakittens
Something_Smart [1]:
Uncrowned

not voting [3]:
Klick, Something_Smart, jjh927


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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:31 am
by Uncrowned
Yeah I'm with Fire and Furtive on this one. Let's see if Mala can get some votes

VOTE: Malakittens

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:38 am
by Uncrowned
In post 3007, Uncrowned wrote:i don't really get this

scumcrowned never needs to vote take vote off ircher i don't think there's a world after what transpired that ircher wasn't the d1 elim

unless you really believe i had enough influence to get roden miselimmed over ircher d1 and still think that ircher would be let off the hook and survive for more days after that

seems a bit contrived to me but that's all wine so do with it what you will
mr andre are you going to engage with me or am i scumbinned

i'm not sure you actually believe my vote switching is scum motivated

if you actually factor in gamestate at the time, i don't think anyone outside of mastina was interested in a roden D1 elim (and even then she was more stuck on Ircher so?)

again the question: do i have enough d1 influence to get quite literally almost everyone in the game (bc keep in mind, even slots who weren't on ircher at the time where all saying "yeah i'd be down to elim Ircher" - fire jumps out as an example of this but there were definitely others in the same boat) to abort the Ircher wagon which was pretty much guaranteed to go through

fmpov, scumcrowned has two options given d1 gamestate

1: float on the wagon and get *some* towncred (probably wouldn't be a lot)

or

2: switch vote onto someone else and actually case them to try and swing the wagon (probably not beneficial, ircher most likely gets elimmed D2 anyway even if I am successful)

again, find it hard to believe you actually think the switching of votes is scum motivated unless you just think "oh yeah this guy sucks at scum" and would switch vote just to not actually really hard push the guy i've switched to

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:52 am
by Ydrasse
is this mala’s mafia meta

like what’s the endgame goal here for her team ig

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:09 am
by furtiveglance
In post 3053, Ydrasse wrote:is this mala’s mafia meta

like what’s the endgame goal here for her team ig
If the team is Ircher/Titus/Mala +1, the endgame goal probably died on D3 with Titus. Mala appears to be just chilling hoping no one votes them.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:11 am
by Malakittens
In post 3049, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3046, Malakittens wrote:
In post 3044, fireisredsir wrote:sure ok

VOTE: mala

i kinda liked andres on this page a little better
Flail harder bro
In post 3047, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 3046, Malakittens wrote:
In post 3044, fireisredsir wrote:sure ok

VOTE: mala

i kinda liked andres on this page a little better
Flail harder bro
do you actually think im scum

all you said when you voted me was "what are we doing? voting fire?"

that doesn't really make it sound like this is a real opinion you hold
In post 2810, Malakittens wrote:Busy will be here.

Work am.

What are we doing? Voting fires?

VOTE: firez
Yeah I'm with Fire on this one. Let's see if Mala can get some votes

VOTE: Malakittens
:good: :good: :good:

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:30 am
by Ydrasse
i feel like the day has stagnated and we should probably consolidate now so it doesn’t get bogged down with apathy

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:31 am
by Ydrasse
inherently i don’t think mala is a wolf but i don’t have strong evidence against it either

i still believe fire or furtive could be good votes as well. i will hear out any other options

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:13 am
by Datisi
replacing Klick. if he posts before i find someone, he can stay.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:30 am
by PenguinPower
In post 3056, Ydrasse wrote:i feel like the day has stagnated and we should probably consolidate now so it doesn’t get bogged down with apathy
People should hop off their vanity wagons then.

Yell directly at them with as much sarcasm as you can muster.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:00 am
by Klick
Hello hi I'm here sorry please don't replace me

Just starting to get better today after being sick
Also admittedly feeling apathy about this game specifically; I think I'm on the wrong track currently and I don't like being wrong, it makes me feel lost

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:09 am
by Klick
In post 189, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 39, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 19, Ircher wrote:As long as we achieve 1,275 points out of 1,700 points each day, we will be fine. If mastina is setting hers to 0%, then we need to average 80 points per player to avoid the extra night kills.
Is this just you guessing that this game is a 17:4, or did I miss that info somewhere, or?
Ircher hasn't been on since this. It totally assumes 17/4 whereas I assumed 16/5 like other large games I've seen.
In post 195, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 192, Titus wrote:
In post 189, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 39, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 19, Ircher wrote:As long as we achieve 1,275 points out of 1,700 points each day, we will be fine. If mastina is setting hers to 0%, then we need to average 80 points per player to avoid the extra night kills.
Is this just you guessing that this game is a 17:4, or did I miss that info somewhere, or?
Ircher hasn't been on since this. It totally assumes 17/4 whereas I assumed 16/5 like other large games I've seen.
Ok....does the setup state how many scum and I missed it?
No, the setup states we don't know. The point is Ircher could be doing a sus TMI scum slip!
In post 198, furtiveglance wrote:We shouldn't fire Ydrasse, I think they're an Employee. I'll vote Ircher for now but I might unvote if they come on and explain why they thought 17/4.

VOTE: Ircher

Uncrowned I voted someone.
I don't buy this progression as a scum progression.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:09 am
by Klick
In post 196, furtiveglance wrote:I think Titus is town.
This post exists too right in the middle there

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:19 am
by Klick
I buy his progression on the Titus slot as well

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:23 am
by Klick
In post 2193, Malakittens wrote:I’m ok with yeeting Titus.
There will never be a day where I’m never not yeetong Titus
In post 2288, Malakittens wrote:VOTE: titus

i got u lukewarm bby
In post 2631, Malakittens wrote:zzzzzzzzzzoooooooooooooooooooom
byeeeeeeeeeee titus
you scumrat

<3
So what exactly is Mala!scum *doing* if anyone could explain that that'd be great

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:28 am
by Klick
In post 202, Uncrowned wrote:i mean now we play the game

what's more likely

mr. ircher just guessed the ratio or he's a very informed doggo
I guess I can see this as gently suggesting the possibility that Ircher's town without pushing it?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:12 am
by fireisredsir
In post 3064, Klick wrote:So what exactly is Mala!scum *doing* if anyone could explain that that'd be great
hoping people buy into this, probably

i mean i don't really see any evidence of her solving that you mentioned earlier so idk what makes her town. it doesn't feel like her posts have any real town thought behind them

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:38 pm
by Uncrowned
In post 3065, Klick wrote:
In post 202, Uncrowned wrote:i mean now we play the game

what's more likely

mr. ircher just guessed the ratio or he's a very informed doggo
I guess I can see this as gently suggesting the possibility that Ircher's town without pushing it?
the opposite actually sir

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:41 pm
by Uncrowned
furtive does deserve to die tho for betraying me ngl now that I think about it

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:52 pm
by mastina
Btw I need to take another
24-48 hour V/LA


I know, I know, no content until like Wednesday in spite of none for half a week. But I need the time for resting and a mental reset.

I wanna say this though:
I realize that most of the slots in the game have good reasons to be town.
I realize that most of the slots have at least some reason to be scum.

But
someone
has to be scum,
And most of the players are going to be town.

The scum are going to have things that can, or do, look town;
The town are going to have things that, thanks to their imperfect knowledge, in hindsight look like scum.

So it's mostly about weighing the probabilities of these events.
A few notable ones: {Ydrasse, Dannflor, Something_Smart} are the three players hardest cleared imo off of the scum flips. I'm never budging on these reads.

{Andres, Uncrowned} are the next tier in acting a way that I feel scum would not, but are not as hard-cleared as the above. I'm not supporting pushes on them until we get to like 5p and maybe not even then.

{PenguinPower, jjh} are the next tier in both not having any hard-clearing aspect but individually looking town and having solid contributions that demonstrate a thought process I feel to be town. I'm not supporting any push on them today, but I admit they require re-evaluation at a future date.

{Klick, Malakittens} are below that in neither having anything looking good for them in terms of interactions, but both vaguely looking town by play, just not as strong as the above. I'd prefer not to elim them tho.

{furtiveglance, fireisredsir} are the bottom tier for me simply because their reasons for being town look weakest to me and they have more reason to be scum than anyone else. Yes, they have things looking town. But most of what makes them town, are things that I don't think are actually indicative of being town. I recognize that I could be wrong, because I
see
the town--I just feel strongly in my gut that the things looking town, are not actually town.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:03 pm
by jjh927
In post 3064, Klick wrote:
In post 2193, Malakittens wrote:I’m ok with yeeting Titus.
There will never be a day where I’m never not yeetong Titus
In post 2288, Malakittens wrote:VOTE: titus

i got u lukewarm bby
In post 2631, Malakittens wrote:zzzzzzzzzzoooooooooooooooooooom
byeeeeeeeeeee titus
you scumrat

<3
So what exactly is Mala!scum *doing* if anyone could explain that that'd be great
Surviving

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:05 pm
by Klick
And she expects this to get her to endgame because

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:21 pm
by jjh927
I don't think scum have to have some master plan where they decide who is going to endgame. I also don't think players who aren't good at scum just immediately give up when they roll scum.

As a reminder we've limmed scum 2/3 days, so if scum have a master plan it probably sucks or relies on a single good scum player surviving (which is not a plan)

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:24 pm
by jjh927
How come when you were quoting mala posts you missed out these gems
In post 333, Malakittens wrote:
In post 140, Titus wrote:
In post 74, Malakittens wrote:Andre is prob town.

VOTE: Mastina

Back to bed for ma
:/ Uh what? Why?
The vibe I got here if Titus flips scum I have a feeling one of these is her partner.

I'll explain it later if I can, but it's a vibe check, AND I'M ALL THERE FOR IT OK
In post 377, Malakittens wrote:towntold

HA

SORRY TITUS

I'M MORE OBVTOWN THAN U

GET OVER IT

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:27 am
by Ydrasse
i guess i would just be baffled if mala made 333 as mafia lol