The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

[tubby216]

that makes absolutely no sense, if it came down to a lylo situation perhaps a that would have been warranted. why did you not investigate, Me , Bm, chamber,vaya , any number of good possible candidates. sheesh

and now that your caught in your own web of BS you re-vote

but i still accept my lynch since i by my own nature am a scummy player. However I would like some type of retribution inflicted on stark with extreme prejudice.

i am at l-2 by my own count

[Kise]

@VP - I don't get told who they are. They're voteless, and I get to move around their vote while dead.

@Uncle Ben - the tubby vote wasn't random

[Benmage]

@Uncle Ben - the tubby vote wasn't random

Oh right you did vote...myb.

Who hasnt today...

Vaya, Plum, Llamma(?) Elmo....mmm SB? test vote guys. Missing vote has to be among these last.

Its been a few days since Vaya or Elmo have posted...dont like it one bit.

[Kise]

Are you looking for a voteless player?

[Benmage]

Are you looking for a voteless player?

Yeah. We have what 16 players and 15 votes rights...

[milkshake]

also, you claim that you investigation last nite was on PZ,
PZ claimed cop who caught scum, ie, dram

why would you even target PZ??

I thought Stark investigated PZ because, since PZ claimed cop, cult would try to recruit PZ, and so if Stark's thing resolved after the recruitment (which I don't know if it does or not), PZ could very well turn up as cult...

[milkshake]

I'm not sure about the above though.

PS I don't think Kise is aligned with the council.

[Battle Mage]

also, you claim that you investigation last nite was on PZ,
PZ claimed cop who caught scum, ie, dram

why would you even target PZ??


i think stark is scum and killed PZ last nite, I also think this cult thing is a cover up.

I think there is no cult

Bro, i'm still having a bit of trouble with your claim. You're a hider, but you dont die when the person you hide behind is killed?
Eh, either way, Stark must be lying, and if Stark is scum, you are probably town. But please explain how exactly your role works, if that is indeed your actual role.

BM

[Battle Mage]

also, you claim that you investigation last nite was on PZ,
PZ claimed cop who caught scum, ie, dram

why would you even target PZ??

I thought Stark investigated PZ because, since PZ claimed cop, cult would try to recruit PZ, and so if Stark's thing resolved after the recruitment (which I don't know if it does or not), PZ could very well turn up as cult...

Stark should answer this. But your explanation for him targetting PZ is illogical- about as illogical as having a cult in a game where everyone has a power role. xD lol

BM

[VP Baltar]

PS I don't think Kise is aligned with the council.

Do tell.

[tubby216]

also, you claim that you investigation last nite was on PZ,
PZ claimed cop who caught scum, ie, dram

why would you even target PZ??

I thought Stark investigated PZ because, since PZ claimed cop, cult would try to recruit PZ, and so if Stark's thing resolved after the recruitment (which I don't know if it does or not), PZ could very well turn up as cult...

for 1 read what he wrote
for 2 let him answer i am sure he doesn't need your help diggin his own grave
for 3 if i understand protection roles anything aimed at pz would fail including recruitment so it makes no sense for stark to choose PZ

[Battle Mage]

And that's what a lazy mind will get you kids.

I'm markedly unimpressed. You think Stark-Cult Cop really believed that PZ could be Cult, who fluked claiming a guilty on a mafia member?

That has to be the stupidest thing i've EVER heard in a mafia game. All the more appalling because someone of your ability is buying into it. 0.o

BM

[milkshake]

@BM, you can't just say my reasoned explanation is illogical without explaining why.

@VP Baltar, partially because of a subjective scum read and also because he didn't claim flavor, didn't claim a role that fits particularly well with this game (not terribly, just not particularly well), and his claimed role handy-dandily doesn't take effect until he's already dead and we would already know whether he's scum or not anyway.

[tubby216]

also, you claim that you investigation last nite was on PZ,
PZ claimed cop who caught scum, ie, dram

why would you even target PZ??


i think stark is scum and killed PZ last nite, I also think this cult thing is a cover up.

I think there is no cult

Bro, i'm still having a bit of trouble with your claim. You're a hider, but you dont die when the person you hide behind is killed?
Eh, either way, Stark must be lying, and if Stark is scum, you are probably town. But please explain how exactly your role works, if that is indeed your actual role.

BM

here is what i am saying

roles resolve at different times, these times are left up to the mod to decide how and when they resolve. i think its possible my hide failed. I do not recieve any pms on wether or not my attempts are succesful. only that the mod recieved my targeting pm.

my pm states i only die when i have chosen to hide behind a conveter. that is all i know.

[Battle Mage]

@BM, you can't just say my reasoned explanation is illogical without explaining why.

Actually i can. And erm, i have.

But, because i'm feeling nice, i'll help you out. Cults recruiting non-vanillas is generally avoided by Moderators, because it either leads to complications with cults having power roles- and cults in this situation will almost inevitably win, or the town losing a large proportion of it's power roles due to recruitment. Alternatives include having certain roles that are recruitable, and some that arent, but again, this is unlikely. The kind of setup you are alleging, is one where the Cult Recruiter is effectively a Cop, right? Or, are you saying he can recruit Converters too?

The whole thing is just too ridiculous for words. But i guess its misleading to say the main logical flaw is you defending his cult-copping of PZ. The real logical failure, is assuming he is cult-cop in the first place.

BM

[Kise]

Didn't know you wanted flavor as well. I am an old fart -- the oldest person among both the city and within Council. Respect your elders, milk.

[Battle Mage]

also, you claim that you investigation last nite was on PZ,
PZ claimed cop who caught scum, ie, dram

why would you even target PZ??


i think stark is scum and killed PZ last nite, I also think this cult thing is a cover up.

I think there is no cult

Bro, i'm still having a bit of trouble with your claim. You're a hider, but you dont die when the person you hide behind is killed?
Eh, either way, Stark must be lying, and if Stark is scum, you are probably town. But please explain how exactly your role works, if that is indeed your actual role.

BM

here is what i am saying

roles resolve at different times, these times are left up to the mod to decide how and when they resolve. i think its possible my hide failed. I do not recieve any pms on wether or not my attempts are succesful. only that the mod recieved my targeting pm.

my pm states i only die when i have chosen to hide behind a conveter. that is all i know.

Then, that means you arent a hider at all, correct? You're simply a weak Cop. Pretty shite role, but makes a fair bit of sense in a set up like this.

Easy to disprove though. Has anyone else recieved a PM saying they got roleblocked?

BM

[milkshake]

Yes, that's an explanation for why there isn't a cult not an explanation for why Stark wouldn't target PZ...

i guess its misleading to say the main logical flaw is you defending his cult-copping of PZ. The real logical failure, is assuming he is cult-cop in the first place.

It isn't just misleading, it's wrong. But it's what you originally said! You thought you could get away with it, is why you said it. ^^

[milkshake]

Didn't know you wanted flavor as well. I am an old fart -- the oldest person among both the city and within Council. Respect your elders, milk.

Well, it was specifically requested along with your claim.

Elder respecting aside, I think you had yet to make it up, is why you didn't post it. <3

[Benmage]

Didn't know you wanted flavor as well. I am an old fart -- the oldest person among both the city and within Council. Respect your elders, milk.

Well, it was specifically requested along with your claim.

Elder respecting aside, I think you had yet to make it up, is why you didn't post it. <3

Disbelieve it/him if you like...but dont say it was a time thing...all scum have had a millennium to perfect their claims and dont need a reason to rush.

Stark lynch sounds so nice.

But tubby's claim is sooo bad.

[VP Baltar]

And that's what a lazy mind will get you kids.

I'm markedly unimpressed. You think Stark-Cult Cop really believed that PZ could be Cult, who fluked claiming a guilty on a mafia member?

That has to be the stupidest thing i've EVER heard in a mafia game. All the more appalling because someone of your ability is buying into it. 0.o

BM

I'm not saying it was a good night choice, but the explanation is at least plausible. Much more so than tubby's "I hid with the dead guy and yet here I am because I live in a magical make believe world where a kill resolves before a hide".

You ready to claim yet?

[VP Baltar]

Didn't know you wanted flavor as well. I am an old fart -- the oldest person among both the city and within Council. Respect your elders, milk.

This is seriously all the flavor you have?

[milkshake]

Disbelieve it/him if you like...but dont say it was a time thing...all scum have had a millennium to perfect their claims and dont need a reason to rush.

I didn't say it was a time thing. I said he just made it up now after his claim. Of course he had time before, this is a play-by-post game, we all have tons of time. But if he already had it for real, he would probably have posted it along with his claim, don't you think?

This is seriously all the flavor you have?

QFT, Kise is very lazy.

[Kise]

I'm the oldest in the Council as well as the city. Back in my younger times, ANYBODY could be born right next to the Goma, as I recall it. I have an understanding of the Converters since I don't like the way things are in our city, but I don't approve of their ways to get things done. I used to ignore what they'd do and turn my cheek, but the death of The Giver was the last straw. They're going down.

I see what you're doing, milk.

[milkshake]

I see what you're doing, milk.

And I you.

Benmage claim?