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Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:44 pm**

VOTE: TBM

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Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:50 pm**

↑ The Mini-Librarian wrote:
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:I'm not posting much because I'm dying tonight.

Why? Who's going to shoot you?

Nobody.

Just wait until morning, my flip should make things more clear but I'd rather not go into too many details now for :reasons:

Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:53 pm**

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Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:14 pm**

↑ Pretentiousdra wrote:It was recommended not to use logic~ on you.

Well that's just dandy for me because I took a look at your iso and you smell like SK.

Here's a piece of Dramlogic.
If I was SK OD woulda died 3 times by now.

Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:51 pm**

Also I notice DGB completely evaporated after it was shown she wasn't reading the thread.

Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:51 pm**

↑ Iecerint wrote:
↑ vollkan wrote:i know ive often ranted against VCA in the past, but putting that aside - why is it that i rate so high? if its due to minimal voting, keep in mind that, as i think you well know, thats part of how i play

People who score high are on lots of wagons where few scum have already flipped and many town have already flipped, especially if they were "easy" wagons. DGB doesn't correct for voting volume at all, so low voting volume will tend to make your score show up lower rather than higher. She thinks scum vote for wagons more, anyway, so it doesn't bother her.

Taking the numbers game this seriously (AFAICT) is probably a towntell for DGB. I've been scum with her where she fakes it as scum, and the difference is usually pretty clear (e.g., she'll minimize how much junk she presents and only use the parts that supports whatever she wants to happen). I haven't played with DGB-scum in ages, though. Anyway, I've had a mild town read on DGB all game, and it's promoted to a stronger one now.

I don't agree with her lynch targets, though, mainly because I don't think one of SPB and DW is necessarily scum. The main "spooky" thing about them is that their roles are so similar, but the fact that both abilities have been corroborated makes this less spooky than it might otherwise be. I think it's more likely that there are two similar roles in the game than that Reck gave a duplicated rolename as a fakeclaim (or that scum ignored a fakeclaim).

Dram is a good lynch. Refer to my posts earlier today.

Vote: dramonic

i reread as much as much as i could, and this is relationally a strong tell.

Dram+7

mainly for post 992 in which he suggests BT/TH as comparable lynch targets (ala the vote/FoS tell) and declaring strong suspicion on TH without making args or actually pushing TH's lynch

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I dont see the basis for the TBM push - just seems like a lurker lynch

Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:52 pm**

ebwop:

Dram+7

Posted: **Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:53 pm**

Were/Are you going to leave us with any reads TBM?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:10 am**

↑ Zoidberg wrote:Also I notice DGB completely evaporated after it was shown she wasn't reading the thread.

My analysis is shit and no one wants to see not-scumhunting-fatescum?

Screw you all.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:35 am**

I'll state some thoughts:

1. It's weird that the VC reset and the vote threshold went down by 2 after I counter-claimed SPB. I don't know if that was some townie using a power to decrease the lynch threshold because he believed SPB to be scum, or if there really are two dreaming gods and scum wanted to help an SPB lynch along. But given the nature of this game, it could have been random or triggered by some not-so-apparent event. This is null.

2. The wagon on SPB after my CC was primarily myself, zoraster, DGB, and dramonic. The DGB counter-wagon was led by Wyrd, SPB, Kawaii, TheTrollie.

3. DGB and TheTrollie bailed their wagons to go to Wyrd.

4. The Butt On Men wagon consists of P-dra, Zoidberg, Kawaii, Mini-Librarian, most of which were not on any of the main wagons for the day.

5. Not sure what to make of 2 through 5, but I'm sure this will come in handy for VCA later.

6. If anything, the DGB wagon looks like an obvious counter-wagon to SPB and the TBM wagon looks like a compromise wagon pushed mostly by people who don't know what to do about the counter-claim situation.

7. I never enjoy Fate/DGB arguments because they run the same way every time regardless of alignment.

8. If the SPB lynch doesn't pan out, I'd support a Trollie lynch. Trollie has been fence-sitting as hard as possible while Wyrd and DGB duke it out.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:46 am**

Hai guiz.

I'm lazy.

Like, super lazy.

So can someone explain to me the DeltaWave/SlumberPartyBois counterclaim scenario? I'll be your best bud.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:48 am**

↑ Magua wrote:So can someone explain to me the DeltaWave/SlumberPartyBois counterclaim scenario? I'll be your best bud.

My role is Dreaming God. SPB claimed Dreaming God in the hydra thread on D1, which I missed because I only skimmed the copy that was posted for things relating to Wyrd. Today, P-Dra referred to SPB as dreaming god, after which I counter-claimed.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:51 am**

Hydra thread?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:52 am**

EBWOP: Do you have any knowledge of your when your powers are used / what they do / what they did?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:56 am**

Also, I believe DW over SPB because my role explicitly references God as a role in the game, which DW claimed, but SPB had some other role name. That doesn't necessarily mean that DW is town.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:04 am**

Apparently all the hydras are in a QT together. Someone posted a log of the QT up until that point on D1.

My flavor is that I'm God, who has a Zune that contains Elton John songs. I can make one person listen to a song each night.

N1: Played "I Feel Like a Bullet" for Ythan. No effect as far as I could tell, but it might have caused the governor thing to happen.
N2: Played "Postcards from Richard Nixon" for Wyrd. It was a watch effect. It said nobody visited him. I was either redirected or Wyrd is lying.
N3: Played "Your Song" for The Butt on Men. I got no PM back from the mods, but TBM confirmed that it made him use his power twice last night.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:51 am**

↑ DeltaWave wrote:N2: Played "Postcards from Richard Nixon" for Wyrd. It was a watch effect. It said nobody visited him. I was either redirected or Wyrd is lying.

Did you get these results, or someone else?

How does a "no one visited Wyrd" result translate to Wyrd lying?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:14 am**

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:
↑ The Mini-Librarian wrote:
↑ TheButtonmen wrote:I'm not posting much because I'm dying tonight.

Why? Who's going to shoot you?

Nobody.

Just wait until morning, my flip should make things more clear but I'd rather not go into too many details now for :reasons:

Your role, an action someone took on you, or do you not want to say?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:26 am**

A summary of the dreaming god claims and related info for Magua.

↑ SlumberPartyBois wrote:n1 i targeted icerint with "pink flamingos" with no apparent result.
n2 pdra with "desperate living" in hopes it was a doctor. was a watcher
n3 wyrd with cry-baby with no apparent result.

↑ SlumberPartyBois wrote:im john waters my abilities are named after his movies.

↑ SlumberPartyBois wrote:alright. the only person to target [P-dra] n2 was ythan. no one else visited you. which is why i was loathe to claim whether or not anyone else visited you.

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↑ DeltaWave wrote:My flavor is that I'm God, who has a Zune that contains Elton John songs. I can make one person listen to a song each night.

N1: Played "I Feel Like a Bullet" for Ythan. No effect as far as I could tell, but it might have caused the governor thing to happen.
N2: Played "Postcards from Richard Nixon" for Wyrd. It was a watch effect. It said nobody visited him. I was either redirected or Wyrd is lying.
N3: Played "Your Song" for The Butt on Men. I got no PM back from the mods, but TBM confirmed that it made him use his power twice last night.

↑ Wyrd wrote:Context my ass. We received a golden girls youtube clip from the mod N2. Something definitely affected us and triggered the video, and I'm going to go out on a MAJOR LIMB and say it was BETTY WHITE. At the very least the whole NOTHING VISITED YOU is probably bullshit.

↑ TheButtonmen wrote:Also the action that targeted me last night tried to empower me to use an action twice during night 4.

↑ zoraster wrote:Role information that confirms the existence of God. I'm Lucifer, and I'm a hated townie.

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I don't think I'm missing anything major, but feel free to add anything if I am.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:44 am**

↑ Magua wrote:
↑ DeltaWave wrote:N2: Played "Postcards from Richard Nixon" for Wyrd. It was a watch effect. It said nobody visited him. I was either redirected or Wyrd is lying.

Did you get these results, or someone else?

How does a "no one visited Wyrd" result translate to Wyrd lying?

I got a PM from the mods saying that nobody visited my target.

What I said to Ythan on D2 likely made scum think I was an inventor, so they probably redirected me to one of their own in order to get my baubles.

Someone apparently DID visit Wyrd and left him a golden girls video.

Something also tells me that Wyrd would want my bauble, so if Wyrdscum exists, then they'd be likely to redirect me to them. But they didn't.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:03 am**

↑ DeltaWave wrote:Well when did someone corroborate SPB's claim?

DeltaWave wrote:Someone apparently DID visit Wyrd and left him a golden girls video.

I had thought the Golden Girls video was due to SPB's action...?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:37 am**

Why are we striking off the possibility that the DW action triggered the Golden Girls YouTube clip?

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:43 am**

Hey DGB Buttons, your previous "look at this scumfuck lurker no ones checked out, ILL MAKE A CASEO N HIM" is being wagoned to fuck and back and you have literally no comment?

Buttons I'm only going to ask once. Claim.

Posted: **Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:43 am**

Hey DGB Buttons, your previous "look at this scumfuck lurker no ones checked out, ILL MAKE A CASEO N HIM" is being wagoned to fuck and back and you have literally no comment?

Buttons I'm only going to ask once. Claim.

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