↑Randomnamechange wrote:You said you weren't sure if he replaced out.
Tactically was the operative word in that sentence.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:42 am
by T S O
↑Passionate Storm wrote:Did I say doc heal? No I said jailkept. Second, strongmen are things.
Now, can we wagon PV or Random unless anyone has a good reason for those slots to breathe?
Can you lay out specifically what you think happened to Gwen that night? Because I don't see how, for example, a Jailkeeper alters anything.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:43 am
by T S O
Gwen couldn't be targeted by a JK, and a JK is functionally the same as a Doctor in terms of protection for Gwen's target. I am not sure if Strongmen supersede Hiders.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:43 am
by T S O
Jason - hypothetically, if a Strongman targets a Hider who is hiding behind someone else, what would be the result?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:46 am
by Garmr
@tso
if his using natural night resolution strongman's shouldn't even be able to touch hiders since hiders activate first and you can't target something that isn't there.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:12 am
by T S O
I thought that too, but I just find it so hard to believe that Gwen didn't perform an action that I feel like exploring every avenue.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:37 am
by Elyse
Varsoon, explain your random scumread. I'm on the fence.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:49 am
by Varsoon
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:52 am
by Elyse
That helps
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:56 am
by Varsoon
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:15 am
by ZZZX
I will answer the question that were given to me (I read them all but I am kinda busy to quote all of them right now) tomorrow morning
but I need a few things to know about from Both Varsoon and TSO to start filtering people in and stuff
1- Can you list your biggest (2-3) town and scum reads with reasons? I'd like to compare between reasons and my iso-ing and see if I get anything interesting/etc
I had a few more questions but i cant remeber. its quite late in the night
↑Passionate Storm wrote:If Random is scum, lynch the fuck out of Shiro tomorrow.
How can you want to lynch Shiro, when Shiro posts stuff like this?
HOW!?!?!?!?!?!?
Too adorable.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:26 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
holy cow you guys have been active. Oh wait, it's TSO. Means I don't have to read any of it. Awesome!
Also TSO your 322 posts only counts as 32.2. Since you spam post like no tomorrow.
↑T S O wrote:So, the scumpool is Errant/random/EE/IAI/inte, I guess?
↑Errantparabola wrote:Eagle, i am quite sure that i explicitly responded to your elyse question.
I didnt care for your read.
The one thing preventing me from voting aneninen is the clotilde gambit because ultimately that was really game-solvy.
Im happy with my mohis vote after reading the past 20-odd pages.
Ok, cool. So you're saying you were never interested in the Elyse wagon?
That would be awesome if you could confirm this for me because I can quote where you showed otherwise and then we can confirm your lynch today after adding lynch all liars to the reasons you're scum.
He gave a reads list earlier, which I like. Glanced at day1 stuff, but not drawing any conclusions from it.
ISOed Klingon and Errant together. Some back and forth, but didn't seem overly adversarial.
However, Errant did hammer Klingon with 9 days left in the day. And didn't seem to try to gain any towncredit from the hammer or the flip.
Probably not my first choice for lynch today.
Mmm. Look at his interest in the Elyse wagon when Klingon becomes viable lynch. And then his sudden forgetting of the topic. Also watch how is reads on people flip back and forth literally from post to post.
Also add in that he.didn't try to take town cred and you ha r lurker scum who don't want the attention.
↑ZZZX wrote:I will answer the question that were given to me (I read them all but I am kinda busy to quote all of them right now) tomorrow morning
but I need a few things to know about from Both Varsoon and TSO to start filtering people in and stuff
1- Can you list your biggest (2-3) town and scum reads with reasons? I'd like to compare between reasons and my iso-ing and see if I get anything interesting/etc
I had a few more questions but i cant remeber. its quite late in the night
-Z
Ok. Errant is my number one scum read. After that TSO and random. Errant because he's buddies people- he called spiff town for no reason and his friends appear out of thin air. Just town reads whenever convenient. He also showed interest in Elyse as counter wagon to Klingon(who flipped scum) but his interest last an entire post and then it disappeared into thin air after people started getting called out for it. His reads day one flipped back and forth literally in back to back posts and they flipped seemingly depending on who it looked like was under pressure. Yes also taken no strong stances on really anything and has lurked like shot since d1 ended.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:37 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Oh craps I forgot my other reads. Random has been in an interesting spot. He seems to state something that is actually untrue about the game mechanics on multiple occasions which is weird for me. He's also kind of WIFOM y everywhere. Few stances, although I did kinda like the stance he did take. I want to drag this day out before lynching him.
Tso is scum because he somehow hasn't noticed my question about whether or not him having bad reads makes him scum based on a self meta even though I've brought it up multiple times. Yes also pushed lynches on town, and quick lynched at that, both of them. He is actually hunting lurkers now and keeps talking about guessing between one of three but also mentions that if his guess is wrong town can't afford to do it twice. So he admits he's wasting a town lynch if he's wrong. He also seems to not really look for scum. He's not defeated or looking at his reads and where he was wrong. He is avoiding questions about errant and has done so since d3. He isn't avidly and openly defending anyone. But I can quote where he's directed people away from wanting to lynch actually scummy players. He spam posts his thoughts in the thread and runs over town. Which isn't necessarily scummy, it's just anti town. Je has also misrepped and blatantly lied about me on a couple occasions and refuses to acknowledge points where he's wrong, he just straight up ignores them. Tl;dr he wants to waste town Lynch on lurkers and not willing to consider other places.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:40 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Town reads: aneninen because he still has his wits about him and he's not associated with anyone, Titus because conftown, Elyse because she's paying attention and I love her thoughts at this point. And random because I can see where hea coming from and I've agreed with him a lot this game.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:46 pm
by Errantparabola
alright, eagle.
let us dance.
↑Extrapolated Eagle wrote:That would be awesome if you could confirm this for me because I can quote where you showed otherwise and then we can confirm your lynch today after adding lynch all liars to the reasons you're scum.
uh huh. sure.
i put elyse on the backburner because i thought a large part of your case could be dismissed as conf bias and there was bigger fish to fry d1 fmpov.
idk if i was chronologically focused on you back then, but i know you took up a lot of my time d1.
↑Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Errant because he's buddies people- he called spiff town for no reason and his friends appear out of thin air. Just town reads whenever convenient. He also showed interest in Elyse as counter wagon to Klingon(who flipped scum) but his interest last an entire post and then it disappeared into thin air after people started getting called out for it. His reads day one flipped back and forth literally in back to back posts and they flipped seemingly depending on who it looked like was under pressure. Yes also taken no strong stances on really anything and has lurked like shot since d1 ended.
1. Spiff was fucking town. No reason my ass.
2. So is all of this D1 evidence something that you just came up with now to frame me? Where's the fucking consistency? Why haven't you been pushing me harder earlier?
