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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:28 pm
by Creature
In post 3068, BuJaber wrote:Lynch
DGB
people.
Only I misread something else here?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:28 pm
by DrewVa
In post 3052, RCEnigma wrote:We only get one Lynch today Tails. If Nancy intends to Lynch a guilty party wrt Toog being pushed to vote, who else but RR whom had the biggest influence in pushing it.

I don't want to Lynch RR for that in particular, I'm just saying put up or shut up.
I’m not a fan wrt to you assuming intentions I’m not stating. I have a right to react to your Toogeloo comment and I don’t like you inferring from that, that I want to lynch RR.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:28 pm
by Creature
In post 3072, CheekyTeeky wrote:I think he scumslipped.
Who? What? Where? When?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:29 pm
by Creature
If it's Gamma about the multiball hinting thing, no: it's not a scumslip.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:29 pm
by Tails
Why!

P-edit: Rats! Missed it!

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:30 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3074, Tails wrote:@Cheeky: You mean the other team part?
Yeah, he has one out.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:31 pm
by Tails
Eh. I've been assuming 2-3 teams and 2 SKs until proven wrong.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:32 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3060, profii wrote:the !other-scum team are probably in there,
@Creature.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:32 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3081, Tails wrote:Eh. I've been assuming 2-3 teams and 2 SKs until proven wrong.
Why?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:33 pm
by RCEnigma
I didn't imply you wanted to Lynch RR, but if you don't then why are we still talking about Toog. Does it suck that he was forced to flip? Yes. Did I want him to flip today? Without a case predicated on Clemencys self vote...maybe. but that wasn't strong enough for me to want to flip him today.

Is it better that he flipped himself early rather than let town Duke it out on who's right or wrong, waste a large portion of the day, and miss out on hunting the ACTUAL scum connections? Imo yes.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:34 pm
by Tails
It's an Overkill game. I expect the mod to maximize death possibility. So more than 1 scum team. I also don't think he decreases the amount of SKs from last game. So minimum of 2.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:34 pm
by profii
In post 3067, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3065, profii wrote:because?
Like how is 3 votes before you "people piling on" and what do you mean by "the other scum team" and why is RR holding back AI??
Yesterday I searched the thread for "gamma" and looked at people interested in lynching him after the N1 flip. There were 5 - might not all have been votes but it felt like something happening.

by "the other scum team" I've already said I think this is multiball

and RR is town for coming in like 'whats going on' because

my theory is Gamma made some Chick defense, as I said very minor. So let's theorise Gamma = Clemencys team.

This means, in multiball, !otherscum can legit scum hunt Gamma - hence my perception of momentum so they are going to be on that fast.
Players who are on the theoretical Gamma/Clemency team, don't want to lose another buddy, so they will resist (I have a list of 3 obvious people that did this)

Then player who are town and have no idea whats going on would do what RR did and be like whats going on can we case this properly - I had to go rummaging through the ISO to work out why Gamma was getting pushed, so if your agenda is town motivated - i.e. lets lynch the right people, you want to do things in a considered way, if you motivation is scum or 3p - you know who you can/cant lynch so you are a bit more rapid about things.


So to me, the push on gamma has given me 8 people to keep a close eye on and 1 person to give town points to. So lets go for it

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:36 pm
by profii
In post 3082, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3060, profii wrote:the !other-scum team are probably in there,
@Creature.
this is in the flip:

You still are a member of a group of kids forming a street gang, but are generally considered to be the Underdogs of this crime-infested "warzone" town. You do everything together, which should make things easier but at the same time
you have to face some serious new problems going against major crime forces, professional killers,
and law enforcement officers alike


that says to me !otherscum + serial killers

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:36 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3085, Tails wrote:It's an Overkill game. I expect the mod to maximize death possibility. So more than 1 scum team. I also don't think he decreases the amount of SKs from last game. So minimum of 2.
You just got out of an Overkill game where you were part of the only scum team right? HoB was the only scum team iirc.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:38 pm
by Tails
And I expect this game to be bigger. Especially since one of the criticisms of the last game were the lack of nks. I think the mod is going to ensure we get the crazy kill nights this time. So that equals more than one team.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:38 pm
by Creature
In post 3082, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3060, profii wrote:the !other-scum team are probably in there,
@Creature.
How is it a slip?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:39 pm
by Creature
The best we can do is hope there's no more than two scumteams and no more than two antitown 3ps

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:40 pm
by Creature
In post 0, Almost50 wrote:A maximum of FOUR players of the TOWN faction can die in the same cycle (D1/N1, D2/N2, etc). Similarly, a maximum of TWO players of any ANTI-TOWN faction can die in the same cycle.
This rule also indicates the kill power

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:41 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3087, profii wrote:
In post 3082, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3060, profii wrote:the !other-scum team are probably in there,
@Creature.
this is in the flip:

You still are a member of a group of kids forming a street gang, but are generally considered to be the Underdogs of this crime-infested "warzone" town. You do everything together, which should make things easier but at the same time
you have to face some serious new problems going against major crime forces, professional killers,
and law enforcement officers alike


that says to me !otherscum + serial killers
Gamma said this too. It strikes me as odd that you both jump to multi-team conclusions before a night where we can actually get real info. To take the flavour literally you'd also have to assume law enforcement officials being a serious problem means corrupt cops that are scum right? Like I just don't buy the assumptions you guys are making so confidently that you're now sorting the game this way.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:42 pm
by Creature
Not sure if A50 would go "wow there are 3 antitown players dying, I'm gonna mysteriously save one of them"

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:43 pm
by profii
BTW

I said my theory is people pushing Gamma are probably !otherscum trying to find scum!gamma for associative to Chick-lemncy - of which Gamma fits the bill.
!otherscum don't care if Gamma is town or scum as a lynch is fine.

IMO it seems prudent to work on the assumption of multiball until something suggests it's single ball and now we have

1. CheekyTeeky pushing gamma.
2. CheekyTeeky calling my theory on this awkward - It comes over weird that you would discredit the idea of multiball if you were town, however !otherscum have to push it to create the idea they are legit scum hunting the !scum team.

IMO I think we will find our first !otherscum here.

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:43 pm
by BuJaber
In post 3094, Creature wrote:Not sure if A50 would go "wow there are 3 antitown players dying, I'm gonna mysteriously save one of them"
Huh.. what is this in response to?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:44 pm
by profii
In post 3093, CheekyTeeky wrote:assume law enforcement officials being a serious problem means corrupt cops that are scum right?
no because that flip was a scum PM - obviously cops are a problem for scum so why would they need to be corrupt.

I read that as "there are cops in this game"

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:44 pm
by Tails
@profii: Are you no longer scumreading gamma?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:46 pm
by profii
In post 3098, Tails wrote:@profii: Are you no longer scumreading gamma?
There are definitely potential links to Chickadee in the ISO but it's not like sound the alarm we've caught scum here guys or anything like that. It's one to just be aware of.

Cheeky is way way higher on the scale of scum right now for the points I just made