if he were really the Town Tracker he would have come right out and answered surely and confidently the exact day, hour and minute he received his result
. He would also have had no problem paraphrasing what his message said, just like Klick had no problem doing this to prove what he's saying is true.
The only explanation is the obvious one - that
Tchill has entirely made up his claim
.
This also explains the fake VT claim, the unusual timing of his Tracker claim and the fact he left no breadcrumb.
lol
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:27 pm
by Luca Blight
That was also true. You obviously weren’t aware of the rules, so there was no reason not to say when you received your result.
And I’m saying my point still stands regarding your slip.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:30 pm
by Chemist1422
Poking gobbledygook.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:30 pm
by Tchill13
I wasn't aware a scum pr could do his action and the night kill also. Am I town for that?.... I doubt it.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:34 pm
by Chemist1422
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:05 pm
by gobbledygook
Things have settled down for me so I can post tonight.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:07 pm
by gobbledygook
Since this page caught my eye, Tchill you’re actually maintaining you’re a tracker? I thought that was a claim a la Alisae
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:28 pm
by Klick
Gobble, you were at L-1 and I didn't hammer you.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:33 pm
by gobbledygook
Well there goes my Klick LUV scum team in that case.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:35 pm
by gobbledygook
Cluck. That means I was wrong about one of Tchill and Luca. This explains the crossvotes.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:03 am
by Klick
Which one do you think you might be wrong about?
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:49 am
by gobbledygook
Honestly no idea. Gut says Tchill because I don’t think his claim is true, but I want to see his answer. I actually hate being in this position because it throws all my associative reads out of whack.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:24 am
by Klick
So the theory is that Tchill came into today and claimed a guilty on his partner?
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:44 am
by gobbledygook
See. That’s what I’m stuck on. It’s why I mentioned my associative reads being messed up. I don’t really understand why Tchill claimed and is continuing to claim Tracker.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:55 am
by Klick
If you're town, I believe the only scumteam worth considering at all is Luca/LUV. Tchill/LUV and Tchill/Luca are both unrealistic.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:24 am
by Tchill13
Yes I'm maintaining my tracker claim.
I got a guilty on luv. I tracked luv to icon.
No I didn't Crum BEFORE mass claim. I literally said I feel like one of the vt's is gonna claim something different in lylo.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:57 am
by gobbledygook
Can you quote that post where you said that Tchill?
LUV/datisi will, still be in the game 100 percent. If not then scum are killing off a mislynch candidate in lylo, which they won't do.
And I'm pretty sure one of the vt's lied and is gonna claim something in lylo. Highly doubt all those vt claims are true.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:18 am
by gobbledygook
Why didn't you crumb?
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:27 am
by Tchill13
Before? I forgot to. A very "foot in mouth" moment given how much I've roasted icon. I caught myself and tried to make the best of a bad scenario.
Once again. Another example of how terrible I'd be as scum if I were to do that and think it was a good idea.
There's much more "bad town" play in my game than "scum driven" play in it. Mainly because I'm town.
I just ask that you read the last 6 or 7 pages with "scum driven agenda or bad town play" in mind.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:35 am
by Tchill13
That can really summarize the entire game.
Does tchill believe roasting someone for not crumbing for a majority of the game will allow him to fake claim in lylo without SOLIDLY crumbing before his claim allows him to get away with it?
Because the datisi lynch, the amount of dead ppl that read Luca as scum, waiting until lylo to claim...
Are all things that make Scum! Tchill's life easier if they happen the opposite way (I'd say faking 1 night action would be easy enough, and I'd have reason to live even had I claimed before this given icon is an invest)
So is Tchill's ENTIRE scum game based off wifom or not? And if I'm not scum with you gobble, who am I scum with?
One is the main question klick has to deal with, and both are questions you must answer.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:54 am
by gobbledygook
I guess I’m most confused because the claim came out of nowhere, you claim it as a guilty, and yet you are not currently voting LUV. The claim and the play do not match up, especially as you noted you were harping on Iconeum for not crumbing. In that moment, I would expect you to start crumbing, but you’re saying you didn’t. So you deliberately chose that despite calling out the behavior elsewhere as anti town.
You see how that’s cause for concern and doesn’t make sense?
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:02 pm
by Tchill13
I was caught up in the situation and it honestly didn't pop in my mind.
I think it's becoming more evident you haven't read too much.
I've made the case for conf scum team luca/luv.
I even used your reasoning as why I shouldn't vote you so klick could be conf town. I knew uzi was scum due to a guilty.
So it's Luca/luv. My reasoning is why I'm on Luca.
You see.... A much better "fake track" than uzi would be icon. It's believable, it's what I should have done. It would give klick more confidence in me that I'm town because I'd be Conf towning klick on that alone. Then the guy that already thought it was luca/uzi would come into the day would be more likely to work with me.
So does my play make sense as either alignment? No.
But this is an abomination of a game if I'm scum here.
Lynching datisi (datisi was never gonna sr me), pushing klick at day start (he thought the team was luca/luv) claiming tracker in lylo (could have claimed it at mass for reasons stated in last post), claiming I tracked uzi (just stated why I'd be better off faking that I tracked icon, so klick would be more in line to back me up)
Where has all that "wifom" gotten me? It's gotten me to be suspect number one. I've time and time again explained why this play isn't worth the risk for getting "wifom points"
If these events played out the opposite way it just plays out way too well for Scum! Tchill here.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:35 pm
by Luca Blight
You would never have ‘fake tracked’ Icon as scum because you’d then have to know who he targeted - and there was no way of knowing that other than a pure guess.
Tchill’s whole defense of himself essentially boils down to ‘I wouldn’t have made mistakes if I were scum’. Even though he’s said he is rusty at this game having not played for a long time. I do believe Tchill is generally a good scum player, but it doesn’t make him perfect. I believe he’s genuinely slipped massively with this Tracker claim.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:43 pm
by Tchill13
Lol. Explain why I don't claim tracker at mass given that icon would be the reason I make it to lylo. I'd have to fake one night action.