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In post 3065, Gypyx wrote:

In post 3061, Klick wrote:

In post 3060, Gypyx wrote:Also i think HUB very likely was targeted by bell's fruit vend N1 as no one claimed it so we can consider him as conftown ~i think~, like 95%

Why HUB specifically? PoE?


Shelly replacement is posting good stuff.
I felt really strongly on reading that Ydrasse was town, and Mafia Commuter Enabler feels icky af to me as a role. This setup looks horribly unbalanced to me without her role as well. Like I'll go back and look at her ISO when I get a chance but it really doesn't feel right.

We have 3 VT claims

You
HUB
TGP

I don't see scum ever checking you / TGP N1, and HUB claimed VT, which could be seen as a big WIFOM play by scum

This... is a very good point

Wait couldn't scum have just targeted a Commuter or something

Shelly and i were claimed commuters, we know shoshin wasn't commuted N1 because HBB fn'd her

And samantha enchanted pelican N1, who was also a claimed PR

if you're talking about night 1, you were claimed ascetics instead of commuters

not that there's a huge difference

In post 3074, samantha97 wrote:

In post 3031, Replacement for shellyc wrote:I am town

since you're kind of a 3rd party, can you make an objective case for you being town over gypyx? personally I always felt shellyc had more town posts but more mafia-like roleclaims and the inverse for gypyx

Both of us are commuters...??

I am not a 3p is this faketmi?

no I mean 3rd party as an 'other' since you only just joined this game

actually idk how that can be misinterpreted since I said make a case for town right after

I can't believe this.

If Samantha is enchantress, there's probably 4 scum, right? Too much power otherwise. Or Samantha could just be the last mafia if she's lying. I don't want to vote her though because if she's town I feel bad and just die horribly tonight...

Replacement for shelly must be a Replacement for Sujimichi alt

Ircher could have been targeted as well I suppose?
Not that this argument means much, I think HUB is town regardless.
Bell could have also committed the N1 kill

In post 3085, Klick wrote:Ircher could have been targeted as well I suppose?
Not that this argument means much, I think HUB is town regardless.
Bell could have also committed the N1 kill

That's fair, just saying it adds to the certainetly

Hectic my birthday is shortly after this game is likely to end

At least one PR claim is almost certainly scum. Right this second I'm leaning Gypyx because it makes sense that it would be a Parallel Universe and I don't think it's shelly. Who do you think it is

I'm gonna try to make a big delve in setup spec tonight so you'll have to wait for my answer

Are you kidding me? We need to draw out the deadlines then so I can wish you a happy birthday while the game is still alive.

Gypyx has felt towny all game. I think he has a lot more motivation as town than scum and his response times have been low and engagement has been fairly high. I'm just remembering my early seasons to townread him now and how comfortable he felt in-thread, when he can be quite forced early on as scum.

I want to go Samatha or TGP today... my reads have changed a lot since start of day.

How are you reading Ydrasse? I think her emotions are real regardless of alignment, it's just a question of examining whether her takes are real.

In post 178, Ydrasse wrote:like, bell so far feels self conscious in the way that he’s approached things? the first thing i noticed was in the post where he voted tsunami (i am on mobile so no post linking) and the second was the wagon hop.

the first stands out more to me because it felt like... forced casualposting; a bit of conversation with me and then a vote tacked on despite having a few posts prior to having been on the thread. it’s a bit like he just wanted to slip on into things without being noticed much. and the wagon hop just sticks out a bit, like a sore thumb for how it was awkward. it’s definitely my strongest sr right now

In post 185, Ydrasse wrote:the self conscious thing

bell’s posting has an air of discomfort to it that feels at odds with the first few posts he made when he started to interact with me (which might be why it stuck out to me too). it’s self conscious in that i read it as an effort from bell to be Cool and Collected that seems feigned which... just ends up falling flat.

do you know if bell likes playing scum or town more?

Shouldn't you be hard buddying your scummates if you're scum rather than making them feel uncomfortable early on, Ydrasse? Does this mean you're town?! That or Bell hatched a plan in the scum PT like the sneaky bus-loving-Bell he is.

In post 3030, Replacement for shellyc wrote:So btw more reasons to scumread Ydrasse by play

- Singlemindedness on Samantha throughout - lack of trajectory when new info comes in
- Lack of strong takes other than samantha, fence-sitting on Vax/Bell (pre-guilt) in crucial moments.
- Off the Vax wagon
- Bell's nonchalantness with dying prob points to one rather townread wolf - Ydrasse.
- Town comm enabler means Ydrasse dying = town loses lots of power, Ydrasse's play isn't very self-pres at all even after the multiple comms claimed

Ydra/Sam seems p unlikely given ydrasse's push there so ydra/gypyx?????

Hm hm hm

I agree there's probably 1 scum in Samantha/Ydrasse but not both.

In post 851, samantha97 wrote:ok but why did you pretend to think you were lynched when titus voted you? I can only imagine a new player not knowing what the accurate vote count is when they're the one with the most votes

I forgot how much I liked Samamtha for his she interacted with Vax...

In post 866, samantha97 wrote:UNVOTE:

I'm gonna be gone for like 6 hours

I also like this post because Vax was doomed and scum wouldn't want to forgo a spot on the wagon and risk this looking scummy.

*the way she

I'm staying parked on TGP for now, I wouldn't want him to feel lonely on his birthday.

Could you provide meta of TGP efforting as scum, Replacement for shelly?

so hbb is basically modconfirmed town, but I actually really like the story of what him being scum would look like.

Hbb scum would be a split magical fairy messenger. N1 he splits on pelican/shoshin, after that he always splits on the kill +fellow scumbutt. so only one message. He also claims fruit receipt because somehow bell only hit vts with fruit.

The beauty of this is more how it interacts with the flavor than anything else. Hbb is little boonie. Someone who can reach out *across universes* to touch people. And when she touches them, she makes it so other people can reach out and touch them too. Unfortunately, tragically, she's scum.. She touches people's heart, but only to watch them die. How poetic. Beautiful. Moving.

Sadly probably not true because if hbb is lying town had like basically no investigative power ever this game and the setup is like... Really extremely scumsided. Everything in the setup makes more sense if he is town and we can just preflip him town, but before I preflip someone as town it's healthy to review the world of what them being scum would look like. Hbb scum is kinda a beautiful, flavor appropriate role, it just makes the balance of the setup hilariously nonexistent. Does anyone actually think a nonconsecutive fruit vendor is actually enough town investigative power in a setup with 3 commuters and an enchantress? Yeah didn't think so, so we all agree we can preflip hbb yeah?

Actually the only reason to still think about hbb is the shoshin kill because he could kill her to avoid it being revealed he was not modconfirmed fn, the problem being him being real town fn is also the exact same reason scum would kill shoshin, so she couldn't just confirm him.

But once we can preflip hbb I think we can get almost the full picture of the actual setup

I love it. It'll break my heart at this point if you're scum, HUB.

Why "mod"confirmed btw? Oh, you mean setup-specwise? Probably

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