In post 3041, Gloria Cleary wrote:Also if Flea and Ydrasse are scum together, why would she even do that? This makes absolutely no sense, especially since Flea was voting her along with Skitter. Your Flea/Ydrasse scumteam theory makes very little sense.
In post 3075, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm ignoring you at this point pooks. You're deliberately winding me up and ignoring what I'm saying, I swear.
You're the one saying you are chaos like that's somehow an answer.
I've given answers, several of them, and you're ignoring them. Thats on you.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:04 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I'm probably wrong about you the f3 I want and who the scum are.
I'm gonna stop talking and do some work on timeline reconstructing.
I'm not trying to wind you up Flea. I'm trying to get you to the point where I can see you being town because even as hopkirk died he said you were a hard townread and I need to see what he saw.
I'm gonna stop talking and do some work on timeline reconstructing.
I'm not trying to wind you up Flea. I'm trying to get you to the point where I can see you being town because even as hopkirk died he said you were a hard townread and I need to see what he saw.
So who do you think ought to be the 4th person paired then?
And based off of that PoE, who makes the most sense as buddies to you? We’ve already established that Flea and Ydrasse don’t. Just want to point out - not saying anything about your alignment - that Titus said something similar about Tayl0r, that Shelley wasn’t really trying to get her yeeted and that it was scum distancing.
if i liked your answers i would stop talking to you
i am trying to get to the point where I like your answers
I am doing this for you because your ate affected me and hopkirk says you are hard townread.
I am literally the only person here trying to dig you out of the hole you dug for yourself.
You're also one of the people that put me in that hole.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:17 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
no you put yourself in that hole when you hammer hopkirk
dont put this on me.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:20 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Gyp was at E-1 for 3 hours after Infinity voted for Gyp.
So why was the scum team ok with this if your vote is a free floating, you say you hard townread hopkirk, and you have the opportunity to hammer Gyp for instant game loss for the scum team?
That's the hardest part that I struggle with to fitting these puzzle pieces in.
Is the entire scum team asleep and can't switch?
Do they somehow know you won't hammer gyp? How do they know this?
The easiest answer is flea is scum but you're screaming at me this isn't the case so I need to fit it to another answer.
All I'm saying is scum me optimal play was to leave it alone and pretend to be offline. My online presence doesn't show so it would've be easy to do. The hopkirk lim would've gone through regardless. '(ᗒᗣᗕ)՞
Me hammering that as scum is freaking stupid on a whole new lever, lets face it. (－‸ლ)
Lets say I am scum, why the fuck would be left alive instead of ANY OF THEM after doing something like that? Scum didn't know what was happening after either according to Hectic so it was doubly stupid. ಠ▃ಠ
Even hoppy<3 knew that, yeah he was pissed. he still believed I was town though. I had my "No LHF" policy running, hopkirk gave a lot of information, and you know if anyone was taking my hoppy down, it was going to be me.
Why would I put all the "effort" into being town, just to YEET it like that? (*-ω-)
And then, why would I be compliant in not being a dancer and becoming bulletproof when as scum that's a freaking optimal position to be in? Especially when I've been so consistently TR'd right up to that hammer?
Ydrasse has literally lurked her way through D1
Pooky has been slinging dirt and not following up then started yeeting everything out of the pram.
Isis has inconsistencies which have been blatantly pointed out.
Jessie is like 95% IIoA
Gloria's been literal "OMG LAMIST" and AtE'ing
Infinity is the only one I can genuinely say I could locktown pre-paranoia.
Let's face it though, this is WIFOM to be discarded if I'm scum, truth if I'm town. I can maybe AtE if you want instead appealing to logic.
Spoiler: AtE - not to be considered unless you genuinely think it's worth considering, I dislike using it but if people like it, here it is.
I've played frankly my best game ever here, regardless of my alignment. If all that is coming undone because I thought sod it lets have a giggle moment, then frankly I'm just going to literally half arse any more games I play because I can't win if I try and filter my brain, can't win if I just brainspew and play for fun, so there would literally be zero point in me doing anything. This has been my best game because I've had fun, I've been able to play here and have fun regardless of my pain and meds issues.
So just thank you everyone for that.
Infinity was on my line of thinking though seeing if Gypyx was exploitable.
Also I doubt you'll get Infinity and Gloria willing to work together despite them both being town.
If I hadn't turned up... Pooky would've been the one who "hammered" hopkirk. I'd missed that bit xD
If I'd not had a stupid moment, both WIFOMing myself into jessie scum power and thinking "if anyones taking hoppy down its me", it would've been pooky (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))
Gypyx was wrongly townread by tgp, people don't listen to dead people enough, I wasn't going for LHF or lurkers hoppy was a good wagon for info AND would've been dead anyway.
This is legitimate either way really, but I love you're now treating me as a non-chaotic player (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ)) suddenly I'm just your average super cereal mafia player instead of the super weird fun loving Flea (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))(*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))(*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))(*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))(*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))(*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))(*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))(*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))
I'm half arsing from this point, I can't win either way
Sadly, if all it takes is one bit of chaotic fun to equate me throwing the game, it isn't fun, and I won't be putting as much effort in in future. This has seriously soured me.
4 mins to deadline I dropped the hammer. Votes weren't going to change in that time. Pooky signed the death warrant and Ydrasse was ready to seal it.
why would you hammer hop if he's going to flip greeen?
why dont you vote gyp and try to get me to switch back?
I don't get it flea i really dont
4 minutes left, I want not going to hit gypyx on NOT HITTING LURKERS OR LHF.
Ydrasse had threatened hammer.
If anyone was taking hoppy out, it was me.
AND I'M THE BADDIE.
In post 3022, Flea The Magician wrote:I don't do things for any particular rhyme or reason. I just do. I make incredibly complex decisions in an instant without thinking about them and doing them.
I WIFOM'd myself into Jessie being scum with a plurality tripped power role.
You signed the death certificate. You admitted you weren't going to change your vote.
Ydrasse was set to deliver it.
My voting gypyx would've changed nothing.
Hopkirks Wagon gave information.
So I lolhammered as it wouldn't have made a difference to me at that point.
That's as much reason as there is. The rest is my sheer impulsive and weird nature.
i mean, yes i think pooky is just asking the same question here again which is pretty ???
but also like,
how you weighted
i do not want to eliminate a townread
vs.
i do not want to eliminate a lurker
and decided on eliminating the townread is still lost on me.
Hopkirk wagon gives more information than Gypyx wagon. Cases on someone active with interactions VS cases on a MIA slot. Hopkirk was doomed regardless with ydrasse talking about switching.
Had I know we were going to suddenly drop 4 players I would've been on the lurkers and low content posters.
it's your explanation that doesnt make sense to me.
gyp was at e-1 for 3 hours and you didn't hammer gyp
hopkirk was at e-1 for like 10 minutes and your hammer came down and you said it was "fun" even though you maintained the whole way that you were townreadnig him.
I honestly don't know why you would do this if you are town.
I don't
I really really don't
and then for you to come here and now try to blame us for not understanding you !?! its just crazy to me.
It's almost like I'm a chaotic being who makes split second decisions that often don't make sense because chaos is the best way to do things.
It's almost like you're trying to find logic in chaos.
It's almost like I've said this countless times.
It's almost like I'm a little bit miffed that I'm being repeatedly asked the same question at least twice a page for the past 3 pages...
I like TRQ for town because she feels like she's trying
I like Gloria for town because her paranoia and fears feel real
Infinity town-reading everyone in a game with 6 scum is just too funny if he's actually scum
that leaves me at Ydrasse-Isis-Flea for possible scum.
Ydra feels like she hasn't tried very much, her excitement for day start feels kind of faked? so do her semi-townslippy posts. I could be wrong about this.
Isis:
Isis/Skitter didn't feel like scum-theater, her push on Dunnstral at the end of first part of D1 doesnt feel partnery? I don't like how absence second part of d2 but that could just be because of RL reasons/burnout.
I really can't state how much I've been waiting to dance with her since that time she killed me so brutally in Epilogue. I was beyond excited because this time I actually have a green role PM. I want her to be green too so badly.
In post 2504, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:no im just angry he decided to try to push me as soon as i fell asleep a few hours b4 the deadline and i dont really care anymore
[12 mins before deadline, signing the death warrant]
In post 2510, Ydrasse wrote:fuck do i need to switch for deadline or will it go through? i don’t want this wagonnnn
[same time I hammered]
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:36 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
? I'm not denying I also dug myself a hole and jumped into it.
That has nothing to do with you.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:49 pm
by Gloria Cleary
Both of you are sr Ydrasse. Something isn’t adding up. One thing is clear that without Pooky switching to Gypyx, no way was Gypyx getting hammered. When did MT vote? Post-hammer, I think?
Like, this by ydrasse feels super weird / fake to me, like, idk, it's very short but followed by pretty long posts and it's very AtE-ish while not really saying much, i can kinda *feel this being re-written a few times like, am I thinking stuff?
VOTE: hopkirk i don't think jessie is a realistic wagon on second thoughts
How did anyone voting Hopkirk right after this, seriously not see this as a scum post? Excluding MT obviously.
