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Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 1:54 pm**

Day 2 begins

with 19 players alive.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 1:55 pm**

Votecount 2.0

Not voting

- Almost50, samantha97, Andresvmb, Nero Cain, Kerset, Marky Mark, Dunnstral, DrippingGoofball, NDMath, Anastasia, Enchant, Save The Dragons, KittyTacky, Vasex, Etine, Rathe, bloodhail, WindowsXP, Cabd

With 19 players alive, it will take 10 votes to achieve an elimination.

The deadline for Day 2 is Wednesday, May 19 at 8:55 pm EDT. You have (expired on 2021-05-19 20:55:00).

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 1:57 pm**

Already told the mod about the slip up but public transparency FYI:

My V/LA was entered incorrectly, it ended on Tuesday. Not next month.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 1:59 pm**

I feel immense pain about that death.. I was gonna babysit her and then chose not to because I didn't want both of us to die!

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:00 pm**

Shucks I have all these good boy points on T3's death and nothing to do them.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:01 pm**

iso skimmed people over the night

i think t3 spewed vasex, etine, kittytacky and enchant as town

i also think andres, marky, and kerset look very good as they were pushing T3 hard.

nero cain was chainsaw defending T3 with his attack on andres, looks horrible

strong town: vasex, andres, marky mark, kittytacky, kerset, etine, enchant
weak town: cabd, rathe
null: dunnstral, NDMath, samantha97
weak scum: windowsxp, anastasia, drippinggoofball
scum: nero cain, save the dragons

VOTE: Nero Cain

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:02 pm**

So kerset going on about mafia cop was tmi, right?

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:04 pm**

In post 3080, bloodhail wrote:iso skimmed people over the night

i think t3 spewed vasex, etine, kittytacky and enchant as town

i also think andres, marky, and kerset look very good as they were pushing T3 hard.

nero cain was chainsaw defending T3 with his attack on andres, looks horrible

strong town: vasex, andres, marky mark, kittytacky, kerset, etine, enchant
weak town: cabd, rathe
null: dunnstral, NDMath, samantha97
weak scum: windowsxp, anastasia, drippinggoofball
scum: nero cain, save the dragons

VOTE: Nero Cain

From where I'm standing... I know my own alignment, the 2nd and 3rd wagons weren't voting t3, and there were legitimate reasons to leave t3 for another day, but a scum elim still got rammed through.

There was bussing for sure IMO, it's easy to ignore the 'correct argument' if you know you're right and can look good

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:05 pm**

In post 82, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 77, Etine wrote:So you don't think T3 is scummy?
not really. You could maybe make the argument that he's going after LHF but...

y is he scummy?

In post 90, Nero Cain wrote:my vote was mostly a joke and slight pressure to get you to explain your T3 vote but hard disagree with ur reasoning.

In post 197, Nero Cain wrote:welp t3 is town

In post 209, Nero Cain wrote:I'm mostly being an ass as I think Koba is pretty inaccurate. Last game I played with them they voted 0 scum on d1 lol. but I was never a fan of the T3 wagon to begin with so...

who else do u think is scum?

In post 359, Nero Cain wrote:I responded to cabd in 63 and he hadn't responded yet. You started pushing t3 in 64 and was then being coy about why you scum read him so I pressure voted you and ever since you've been scum "reading" me.

In post 1103, Nero Cain wrote:whats the case on T3?

In post 1116, Nero Cain wrote:there's been a decent amount of pressure on T3 all day. IDK if there we any votes on him and the time of his claim but I'm fairly certain he'd had been getting voted.

Like, I agree with u that if t3 is a town bp he's a dunce but my problem is that when I asked what the case on him was you said it was b/c he claimed a role that was common for a scum role which is sorta as a push. You then followed it up by claiming that he's fake claiming bp b/c town wouldn't claim bp and waste thier role wich makes a lil' sense but im not sure why you didn't lead with that and the change in reasoning kinda makes me worry.

In post 1233, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1170, Vasex wrote:
In post 1110, Nero Cain wrote:Also I don't have to be on a wagon with DGB and Andre!

In post 1169, Nero Cain wrote:or we could help DGB bus
funny
my point was that DGB left a viable t3 wagon to vanity vote. From my POV that looks like scum that doesn't want to be on a ml.

In post 2967, Nero Cain wrote:dunn, t3, anya are prob voting scum but the chance we swing to an andre lynch is slim to none so join the cabd wagon.

enchant, self voting is dumb. I get it though but its time to move on.

bloodhail, Kerset stop voting town u dummies.

Anastasia prob won't join the cabd wagon b/c vasex is on it but he's not scum.

a50 being useless? no one saw that coming.

In post 2970, Nero Cain wrote:im not!

could I be wrong? sure but I feel like STD, math, vasex are all p town. If I'm wrong on any1 its Windows but eh. If my choices are between cabd wagon and t3 then Im not gonna join the wagon with dgb and etine just eww

like seriously holy shit

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:06 pm**

In post 3077, Cabd wrote:Already told the mod about the slip up but public transparency FYI:

My V/LA was entered incorrectly, it ended on Tuesday. Not next month.

Hey now that you're here. I don't think you ever sent me a distress signal this game. Can we at least agree that when you said that it was a mistake, and so your resulting read was a mistake?

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:08 pm**

In post 3082, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3080, bloodhail wrote:iso skimmed people over the night

i think t3 spewed vasex, etine, kittytacky and enchant as town

i also think andres, marky, and kerset look very good as they were pushing T3 hard.

nero cain was chainsaw defending T3 with his attack on andres, looks horrible

strong town: vasex, andres, marky mark, kittytacky, kerset, etine, enchant
weak town: cabd, rathe
null: dunnstral, NDMath, samantha97
weak scum: windowsxp, anastasia, drippinggoofball
scum: nero cain, save the dragons

VOTE: Nero Cain
From where I'm standing... I know my own alignment, the 2nd and 3rd wagons weren't voting t3, and there were legitimate reasons to leave t3 for another day, but a scum elim still got rammed through.

There was bussing for sure IMO, it's easy to ignore the 'correct argument' if you know you're right and can look good

bussing is possible, there's always at least one but i don't want to think about that now, NKs will usually narrow it down

starting to chop people who were on the wagon would be dumb as fuck

i also think scum really didn't want to lose T3 day 1

like i get what you're saying about kerset but i don't see why he'd commit so much to burying T3

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:09 pm**

I may not have explicitly sent one addressed to only you, but I certainly felt like I was putting them out writ large.

Doesn't matter though, we have data I can dig into instead. I'm pretty much resetting myself with the exception of the mara read~ You're welcome to cross-temporal neighborize me though, if you'd like.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:10 pm**

Opposite opinion of Dunn, I think we should be elim'ing off of yesterday's wagon.

Willing to full clear Mark off the mafia cop. Also agree with bloodhail's spews.

Mafia cop also implies Traitor;
Deathnote (now A50) reads as the traitor to me.

Spoiler: referring to these posts

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:11 pm**

T3 [11] - Rathe, KittyTacky, Etine, samantha97, DrippingGoofball, Marky Mark, Kerset, Anya, Vasex, bloodhail, Enchant [ELIMINATION]

most of that wagon looks pretty damn townie

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:12 pm**

My argument is that logic was ignored in order to push t3, and a lot of correct but awkward conclusions appeared from nowhere:

-Mafia having a cop
-Traitor in the game (which is implied with a mafia cop)

And neither of these things are natural to think about. Thinking that mafia have a cop is not a natural conclusion at all. And kerset walked it back but I don't fully buy that

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:13 pm**

In post 3080, bloodhail wrote:iso skimmed people over the night

i think t3 spewed vasex, etine, kittytacky and enchant as town

i also think andres, marky, and kerset look very good as they were pushing T3 hard.

nero cain was chainsaw defending T3 with his attack on andres, looks horrible

strong town: vasex, andres, marky mark, kittytacky, kerset, etine, enchant
weak town: cabd, rathe
null: dunnstral, NDMath, samantha97
weak scum: windowsxp, anastasia, drippinggoofball
scum: nero cain, save the dragons

VOTE: Nero Cain

The one thing I love most about this read list is that I'm invisible.

But seriously, can you town case yourself for me before you start giving reads on others? Like, if you said something specifically that contributed directly to the T3 elimination then please quote. All I know is you were late to the party, so to speak.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:14 pm**

In post 3087, NDMath wrote:Mafia cop also implies Traitor;

How so?

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:15 pm**

DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3087, NDMath wrote:Mafia cop also implies Traitor;
How so?

Because what else would a mafia cop be used for? Aside from multiball, but this is a normal game.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:15 pm**

In post 3087, NDMath wrote:Opposite opinion of Dunn, I think we should be elim'ing off of yesterday's wagon.

I was thinking that too tbh, but I wanted to wait to see what my main suspects would say.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:15 pm**

I actually thought that was addressed to me, but I said pretty much the same thing anyway

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:15 pm**

In post 3093, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3087, NDMath wrote:Opposite opinion of Dunn, I think we should be elim'ing off of yesterday's wagon.
I was thinking that too tbh, but I wanted to wait to see what my main suspects would say.

Can you remind me of who that is

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:16 pm**

In post 3090, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3080, bloodhail wrote:iso skimmed people over the night

i think t3 spewed vasex, etine, kittytacky and enchant as town

i also think andres, marky, and kerset look very good as they were pushing T3 hard.

nero cain was chainsaw defending T3 with his attack on andres, looks horrible

strong town: vasex, andres, marky mark, kittytacky, kerset, etine, enchant
weak town: cabd, rathe
null: dunnstral, NDMath, samantha97
weak scum: windowsxp, anastasia, drippinggoofball
scum: nero cain, save the dragons

VOTE: Nero Cain
The one thing I love most about this read list is that I'm invisible.

But seriously, can you town case yourself for me before you start giving reads on others? Like, if you said something specifically that contributed directly to the T3 elimination then please quote. All I know is you were late to the party, so to speak.

i forgot to put you there because your content is nonexistant but you're still scum

fuck off i'm not towncasing myself

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:17 pm**

In post 3089, Dunnstral wrote:My argument is that logic was ignored in order to push t3, and a lot of correct but awkward conclusions appeared from nowhere:

-Mafia having a cop
-Traitor in the game (which is implied with a mafia cop)

And neither of these things are natural to think about. Thinking that mafia have a cop is not a natural conclusion at all. And kerset walked it back but I don't fully buy that

The traitor speculation might me TMI - a kind of signal, even.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:17 pm**

In post 3087, NDMath wrote:Opposite opinion of Dunn, I think we should be elim'ing off of yesterday's wagon.

Willing to full clear Mark off the mafia cop. Also agree with bloodhail's spews.

Mafia cop also implies Traitor;
Deathnote (now A50) reads as the traitor to me.

Spoiler: referring to these posts
In post 106, DeathNote wrote:11 votes is a lot of votes.

I should help. Idle votes are the mafia's handiwork right?

VOTE: Vote: T3

In post 170, DeathNote wrote:
In post 129, T3 wrote:I.. didn't ask why. I responded to something another player said with a valid reason.
No one is going to tell you how to be town except for maybe your scum team in a private thread. Is your response just going to be "but give me reasons?"

Because lot of players to get through........

In post 174, DeathNote wrote:Cool cool. I'm the other miller too so that should help us solidify this block

I like this. Specifically, posts 106 and 174 look like traitor softs to me.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:18 pm**

In post 3087, NDMath wrote:Deathnote (now A50) reads as the traitor to me.

I dunno what bsee in those posts that indicate a Traitor crumb, but I think I'll enjoy the trip.

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