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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:32 pm
by ulyana
In post 3062, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3039, ulyana wrote:
In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.
i was miselimmed once very sad experience +(

skitter was even trying her hardest to save me!
which game?
and i try!
silent star: lunacy

morning tweet and dunnstral were on the wagon

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:32 pm
by SirCakez
In post 2987, Infinity 324 wrote:i feel bad but...unwnd still isn't towntelling imo

also i'm not super convinced about the cakez case but at this point i'm ok sheeping it. kinda done with this phase tbh
this gives me MAJOR ick
literally no WIM at all

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:32 pm
by unwnd
In post 3074, unwnd wrote:Skitter what is your read on Peta.
Newpage

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:32 pm
by skitter30
In post 3074, unwnd wrote:Skitter what is your read on Peta.
probably town

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:32 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3065, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3050, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3009, Infinity 324 wrote:disagree on toog. most likely outcome is not that scum!them decided to do nothing and try to get townread
I don’t think Toog’s plan has been to get TRed, just to coast
So while unwnd’s specific logic is not good that doesn’t make the read wrong IMO
fair enough, i'm not deeply attached to this read it's just not the first place i would look

like wouldn't you try to do at least a little if you wanted to coast?
Not exactly
I was scum in a “vote for town” setup once and I was very disengaged and there was like no reason to change that because trying to rock the boat would have just been a scum claim
I feel like as long as we keep looking for scum in the same spots there’s not gonna be any call for him to change his play

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:33 pm
by unwnd
Cakez towncase yourself for me

Doesn't need to be a big one but like why am I just wrong on you

Moreover, why can't I just..be wrong on you? Why is it scum motivated

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:33 pm
by SirCakez
ftr - I am definitely invested in this game - I just can't manifest massive walls and 24/7 posting like some of you can
my brain and time don't work on that level

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:34 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 3076, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2987, Infinity 324 wrote:i feel bad but...unwnd still isn't towntelling imo

also i'm not super convinced about the cakez case but at this point i'm ok sheeping it. kinda done with this phase tbh
this gives me MAJOR ick
literally no WIM at all
why is that scummy? i don't believe there's much more productive that will come out of this phase

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:34 pm
by skitter30
sorry, uninvested may have been the wrong word

i meant more like 'has a limited amount of time/brain energy to focus on this so just says what he thinks when he is here'
i probably could have said that better

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:35 pm
by SirCakez
In post 3080, unwnd wrote:Cakez towncase yourself for me

Doesn't need to be a big one but like why am I just wrong on you

Moreover, why can't I just..be wrong on you? Why is it scum motivated
basically - the way you entered this game and have been playing seems like you're trying to widen the elim pool and put people who generally weren't being considered (like Taly, Skitter and myself) into play while diverting attention away from people like Peta and Dunn who were sussed after Pooky and Ceph flipped town

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:36 pm
by skitter30
In post 2981, unwnd wrote:Anyways, about Skitter. I just disagree with her. I disagree with her a lot and often. Does disagreement need to be the reason why she is scum? No. No I didn't want to believe that, and I was trying to find compromise and not end up in a situation like Siege where I backed out of my townread of her because we came to a disagreement. I think Skitter is very not afraid to put her stake in things but that makes it dangerous because I've seen her do so to dissuade town. It's just this dismissive attitude that is rubbing me wrong and I wish it didn't.
also since you're not responding to my earlier question i just want to say that i take significant issue with most of this, especially coupled with how you're interacting with me now

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:36 pm
by SirCakez
In post 3028, petapan wrote:
In post 3024, skitter30 wrote:@peta wrt your sircakez case:

cakez is quite clearly not invested in the game, and i think that most of your issues with the depth of his thoughts functionally stem from that.
the issue i'm having with the conclusion that he's scum because of it is that we have gypyx + toog + dwlee to a similar extent playing in a very similar way, and i don't think they're all scum.

cakez' is uninvested and shallow, yeah. i'm not coninvced that's inherently scum-indicative

tonally/emotionally i think he's being very honest about his thoughts and feelings and approach to the game, and i still like his mortal kombat thing from last night
i don't think he's scum and i don't think i can vote him here
i don't care if he's uninvested he's capable of stringing togethere coherent reasoning and what he's shading people for is just scummy
how? you can call my reasoning shallow and scummy but is it illogical? no (except for maybe my one point about you making sense on a team that kills Pooky, ig that theory doesn't really work)

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:37 pm
by unwnd
In post 3084, SirCakez wrote:
In post 3080, unwnd wrote:Cakez towncase yourself for me

Doesn't need to be a big one but like why am I just wrong on you

Moreover, why can't I just..be wrong on you? Why is it scum motivated
basically - the way you entered this game and have been playing seems like you're trying to widen the elim pool and put people who generally weren't being considered (like Taly, Skitter and myself) into play while diverting attention away from people like Peta and Dunn who were sussed after Pooky and Ceph flipped town
Taly/Skitter thoughts are just thoughts. I'd be more intentional and call-to-action if I thought I could widen the elim pool. I also don't think I could realistically get either elimmed so what's the point of me as scum talking about them lol.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:37 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3061, SirCakez wrote:also it's fucking BS to say I'm accusing everyone when Peta is staging this to look like I accused all of these people at the same time when in reality this is a game-wide pregression.

I'm at null on Toog
ended up with town for Ceph
still TR Dwlee
nulltown Ulyana
nulltown Gamma
I don’t remember your full progression on me but you did hammer me out of what looked like paranoia that the wagon would shift to you?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:37 pm
by SirCakez
also Toog just doesn't really feel like scum here and it seems like my scumreads are trying to get him into the duel pool when that would be a frankly very unhelpful elim today

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:37 pm
by SirCakez
In post 3088, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3061, SirCakez wrote:also it's fucking BS to say I'm accusing everyone when Peta is staging this to look like I accused all of these people at the same time when in reality this is a game-wide pregression.

I'm at null on Toog
ended up with town for Ceph
still TR Dwlee
nulltown Ulyana
nulltown Gamma
I don’t remember your full progression on me but you did hammer me out of what looked like paranoia that the wagon would shift to you?
no I hammered because I thought you would be a high-information flip

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:37 pm
by Taly
In post 3059, unwnd wrote:
In post 3054, Taly wrote:
In post 3043, unwnd wrote:
In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.
Is this because you think your reads aren't good? Susceptible to pocket? Still would like a little bit more cause yeah my thoughts were genuine and this is opportunity to get a more personal looka t you.
No and yes. Your predecessor,
Galron
, was right. I'm very susceptible to AtE.

I also have unpredictable read progressions.

I usually die the moment I get a strong solve.

I've had very strong elo performances but I still tend to lose them because scum takes advantage of people misinterpreting me.
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Who is exactly bothering you and how it is affecting your reads? I don't remember what a readlist from you looks like.
Saber/Cakez
are people I'm afraid of being pocketed by.
Infinity/Peta
to a lesser degree but I have a lot of recent reasons to negate that with viewing them with town motive.

Dwlee
doesn't feel agenda based at all. My only reference of scum him was that he had a clear position to take that was advantageous to him and there is nothing for him to cling on here.

Uly
Town.
Skitter
seems like a team player judging off my last comvo with her.

Ydra
is a slot I want to townread but I feel could easily be in a team with most players.

Toog
too but I feel like he is more LHF than definitively scum or town.

Gamma
hasn't made many pushes this game that I approve of but I think they're sincere intention-wise.

Dunn
is stiff and someone I want to see an event result around to read better.

I felt generally good about
Galron
and I kind of feel like the heat your slot gets is very mob-centric and something I don't entirely trust, but can understand the reasons of suspicion.

Where is
Gypyx
?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:37 pm
by skitter30
In post 3089, SirCakez wrote:also Toog just doesn't really feel like scum here and it seems like my scumreads are trying to get him into the duel pool when that would be a frankly very unhelpful elim today
this ^

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:39 pm
by SirCakez
VOTE: dunnstral
I think this is now my strongest scumread
He is playing to his scum meta to a T - drive-by posting, lack of investment, few memorable posts or pushes
I can't really think of a scum team in this playerlist that doesn't have Dunn in it while I could see Peta or Unwnd not being in one

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:39 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3090, SirCakez wrote:no I hammered because I thought you would be a high-information flip
I don’t recall anything about this in the moment
What did you think my flip would reveal? And why were you immediately willing to spare me given that thinking?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:39 pm
by unwnd
Above all else I would be shooting Saber.

Toog is not my priority. I don't agree with the townreads and gave my own disposition.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:40 pm
by unwnd
You wanna test me? Put me up with Saber.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:40 pm
by SirCakez
In post 3093, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: dunnstral
I think this is now my strongest scumread
He is playing to his scum meta to a T - drive-by posting, lack of investment, few memorable posts or pushes
I can't really think of a scum team in this playerlist that doesn't have Dunn in it while I could see Peta or Unwnd not being in one
his entire day 2 is totally awful - literally no scumhunting at all, just occasional reads drops and defending himself for spending all of day 1 on Gamma

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:40 pm
by Dwlee99
Also skitter is scum for the awful infinity read seriously

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:41 pm
by Taly
I don't care for this gladiator bullshit tbh.

I want a duel I think is S/S.