I think Johhnny need to go. I tried to think what to do with MathBlade vouyer and remaining rolecops but i just can't think about something without pit and i am tired.
MathBlade and me both Vouyers
Titus and Frog both Rolecops
Johhny and Marci both protectives
wIll think about it more tomorrow i sleep.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:21 am
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 3065, Cape90 wrote:If this flips town, you are dead to me, got it
Man I just got here
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:30 am
by Cape90
In post 3069, Titus wrote:Cape might be scum here. In the last 5 posts he has FoSed me, math, johnny, luke and marci just riling people up.
If I had to guess, there are 2 scum that are claiming PRs and 1 scum that is claiming VT. In fact I am certain of that
marcistar (doc mix with tracker but more doc)/Johnny (1-shot Loyal BG)/Titus (X-Shot Rolecop???)/MathBlade (Vouyer)/Possibly Toogeloo idfk/Enchant (voyeur part 2)
I think I will roll with Titus/Johnny +1 world
VT Claims = me/Lukewarm/Maria/Toog?????
Notice how it's like 3/4 VT's versus 5/6 PR's?
In post 3070, Titus wrote:I pretty much hard TR everyone else (well almost hard TR Enchant, mild paranoia but I am like 95% sure town there).
That scum team for the most part lurks. A surprise wagon on lurker Greeting would bring a lot of heat and be town driven and Pooky plops on.
Pooky isn’t one to do something without believing it helps him town or scum.
So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.
That doesn’t add up to me.
I'm feeling a Pooky+Dragons+furtive+BCG scum team right about now.
VOTE: furtive
This was Frogsterking's last readwall before being shot. He was shot BEFORE not mafia or math who could in theory cause a clear chain giving us arguably an extra clear or scumfirm.
We know Furtiveglance was wrong.
If we do lim Johnny and it flips scum, I want Luke tomorrow. No questions asked.
Then we sort Math/Cape.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:52 am
by Titus
In post 3078, JohnnyFarrar wrote:So wait do we not have a mech win? I haven't really thought critically about the game since hearing that
We don't because Math spammed out the right play and wouldn't listen.
Ideally we'd do Luke today but I'm going to get spammed down again.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:00 am
by JohnnyFarrar
Alright, is anyone actually 100% confirmed? I gotta start solving for my life it seems
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:08 am
by Cape90
Nobody is 100% confirmed. The person who was the closest just died so
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:23 am
by Toogeloo
In post 3079, Titus wrote:This was Frogsterking's last readwall before being shot. He was shot BEFORE not mafia or math who could in theory cause a clear chain giving us arguably an extra clear or scumfirm.
We know Furtiveglance was wrong.
If we do lim Johnny and it flips scum, I want Luke tomorrow. No questions asked.
Then we sort Math/Cape.
I'm in agreement, mostly. I still strongly suspect Maria, and feel they are being largely ignored and would include that in the sorting as well.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:27 am
by Lukewarm
Okay, reading through the night actions.
Enchant saw that there was 1 invest on Marci. Math saw that there was 1 invest on Marci. Titus saw that Enchant is a night 3 voyeur.
Enchant forced all of those claims to come out in the order that proved Titus is a role cop, and proved that Math is a Voyuer. And because of titus's role, enchant's role is also confirmed.
Math: Vouyer
Titus: Rolecop
Enchant: Vouyer
All confirmed, (unless specifically Enchant+Titus scum team together I guess)
Not Mafia agreed to try and kill of Marci, and she did not die, so she is confirmed town, right?
The only PR claim that is not a confirmed PR then is Johnny now? IF we don't kill him today, then Titus should be on him, right
6 invest + a vig seems like too much (Math, titus, enchant, marci, Frog, furtive), so I gotta believe that there is scum in there. Looking at the list, Titus would be my best guess. Pooky did not look partnered with Math, and he has been putting in the work to create clears, and the way that enchant forced out the claims today was pretty impressive. Most pro-town play I think I have ever seen from enchant actually lol. Marci was not killed by NM
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I am down for either Johnny or Titus for today
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:28 am
by Lukewarm
In post 3084, Lukewarm wrote:IF we don't kill him today, then Titus should be on him, right
Wait, forget this if we are killing one of them today lmao
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:29 am
by MathBlade
In post 3081, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Alright, is anyone actually 100% confirmed? I gotta start solving for my life it seems
Marci is 95% confirmed. The only way Marci can be scum is if NM was roleblocked N3.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:31 am
by MathBlade
To be clear I find that Marci scum is unlikely but not impossible if Marci odd night RB even night combined tracker doc
I don’t believe that I just find it possible
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:31 am
by Cape90
Thinking about it, I suppose having 2 weakish town protectives makes a lot more sense then a full on rolecop and a partial rolecop
VOTE: Titus
While I haven't found Johnny to be particularly useful at all, Titus has seemingly an obvious agenda today in my view.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:32 am
by Titus
Lol Cape's scum.
Moving on.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:33 am
by Titus
In post 3087, MathBlade wrote:To be clear I find that Marci scum is unlikely but not impossible if Marci odd night RB even night combined tracker doc
I don’t believe that I just find it possible
This is correct.
Cape+Luke is near certain.
Johnny is likely a flubbed the claim scenario and thus must be eliminated before elo.
In post 3087, MathBlade wrote:To be clear I find that Marci scum is unlikely but not impossible if Marci odd night RB even night combined tracker doc
I don’t believe that I just find it possible
This is correct.
Cape+Luke is near certain.
Johnny is likely a flubbed the claim scenario and thus must be eliminated before elo.
I’d rather take my time.
Work backwards from we know scum had a two shot follower.
Then figure out what else they have.
Because if the roles have to be divvied up in a certain manner (ie between two current scum)
Then VT checks are likely innos.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:37 am
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 0, schadd_ wrote:Enchant
JohnnyFarrar
Lukewarm
Cape90
Titus
Toogeloo
MathBlade
marcistar
MariaR
With 16 original players that's, what, 5 scum? 4? So we might be in Elo right now?
Ok I'll start with Enchant
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:38 am
by MathBlade
I’m pretty sure that’s where I will end up
It’s more trying to find the protective there.
Mainly I think scum need some way to mess with this confirmation chain I built D1 (granted I was an idiot readwose) but mechanically I wasn’t.
Mainly I think scum need some way to mess with this confirmation chain I built D1 (granted I was an idiot readwose) but mechanically I wasn’t.
Shoot you? Any protective gets eliminated....Refusal to coordinate, lots of odd man out lims (furtiveglance, enchant, bodyguard claim).
VTs are not innos. Go back to basics and vca please if you're town.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:45 am
by JohnnyFarrar
Dunno what I was expecting from reading enchants ISO, bunch of fake claims, a hammer on town. Trust levels low. They're also efforting, which I've never seen before? Does scum Enchant effort?
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:50 am
by Toogeloo
I want to get this off my chest real quick.
Last minute Hero solve (don't take seriously, "yet"): Johnny, Maria, Titus.
Titus is my big paranoia read. Scum Rolecop is completely plausible.
Running theory is that Johnny is being cut loose by the scum team. Titus is lining up the eliminations afterwards to carry the scum to the end.
I'm not discounting the possibility that Luke might be aligned with Johnny, but something just seems fishy to me all of a sudden.