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I seem to struggle with getting ganked top regardless of who I play. Iswear top lane always goes pretty well for me and then Wukong just parks his ass up their for a few ganks and Im suddenly getting snowballed.

Getting ganked top is good though. Esspecially with the current meta, you are going to be useful even if you lose a little. A jungler gank top means he's not ganking your carries and even if you are somewhat losing you can still run at people and be scary in midgame.

Feral flare is fucking broken

That's why it's getting nerfed !

Yeah if you're getting camped top and your jungler isn't taking free objectives then you're jungler is awful or you need to take teleport often.
Honestly I see getting camped toplane as a generally good sign for the rest of my team (unless all the other lanes are losing).

Yeah the last time I played top (I main support/jungle), I went like 1/4 in lane but kept pushing nonstop and drawing jungler aggro. 25 mins in, I had the top middle turret down and the rest of my team was like 15/5 because I was consistently occupying their top laner and jungler. The feeder carry is real.

It's official - I'm the worst renekton player alive. I lost lane to a mundo before he hit 6.

In post 30830, animorpherv1 wrote:It's official - I'm the worst renekton player alive. I lost lane to a mundo before he hit 6.

um isn't that impossible?

I managed it.

I just want to say that Mundo's cleavers are magnetically attracted to me and seem to sometimes hit me through minions...

In post 30817, lil g wrote:Things to consider:

-Teemo lacks early dueling, late teamfight, and any initiation /cc for ganking or teamfight. Teemo is not a solo queue jungler.

Correct, which is why i only use him to counter FF junglers.

-By only picking Teemo as a jungler if the other team has a FF jungler, you are hardcountering yourself, setting yourself up to play afraid of your own jungle, and guaranteeing that you are killed if counterjungled without flash.

Lets assume low ranked people even know how to counter jungle will we?

The reason i pick it against FF is because i need 5k gold to be really effective, and generally FF's will let you do that easily, and once you hit FF/RH the heal becomes amazing enough that you can do a lot with it.

-In lane, you want to start with an offensive item on Teemo, that's a dring 90% of the time. Flask/pots is an extremely conservative start, that's what you should be expecting your opponent to start with since you will be doing all of the damage early on. Teemo's early game is poke damage (aa Q aa), not trading damage, so you shouldn't be getting hit back. You don't have the stats to trade with anyone in toplane, any "trade" before level 3 is effectively an all-in for your opponent since they won't be able to escape. If they come in on you, they aren't intending to walk away until you're dead.

Agreed an offensive item would be amazing on Teemo, but have you seen how damn often teemo gets ganked/camped pre-6?

Also any trade before level 3, is going to end with them ticking down a lot of damage, while i'm chugging a decent amount of pots and slamming them back.

-You want a Zhonyas instead of a GA on AP champions, it does double duty as an offensive/defensive item and has a quarter of the cd time for the effect, saving you 4 times as often. Get focused - Zhonya - W - scoot and shoot. Without the lifesteal/dmg combo of an ADC or the high defensive stats of an initiator, you're just going to die in 1 hit when you pop back up from a GA every five minutes.

I'll Admit, i favor GA because of my jungler teemo (in effect massive lifesteal), but both kinda have the same impact, the difference is i do build tanky, and GA helps with that.

-Hurricane/Nashors/Liandrys/Mallet/GA is about the worst thing you can do to yourself. You've split your effectiveness into at least 4 categories (attack speed, ap/mpen, ad, and defense). You want to pick one, possibly two areas and go all out in them. By splitting your items so much, you've diversified your build into complete ineffectiveness. If you really want to do the ridiculous onhit/atk speed, you want a bork, a wits end and a rageblade, and you want to win the game before anyone gets defense built. There's a reason you don't see any hybrid builds, you split the damage and end up hamstringing yourself since with a little bit of everything, you are countered by scaling armor/mr and a modest defensive item.

and yet, i somehow 9/10 times end up being the carry in my games.

Here's a few things: I know how to make the item set work for me, and quite often this gives me massive presence in the late game, most teemo's can't leave their lane, i can, and i cause massive problems when i do.

Sure my items wouldn't probably work at a higher ranked level, but my other champs probably would by that point because people would be half way competent.

Straight up dude, these builds are awful and you aren't carrying shit.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/oce/862635#ranked-stats

You're feeding hard in bronze, on oceania. Just say "I don't want to improve", you could have saved me ten minutes of constructive posting that fell on deaf ears.

Next!

Has anyone used Lol recorder? Im having extreme issues and the latest version Im on appears to be like a year old. What do?

It sucks. Never has worked for me either. Riot says they are working on a built in recorder for the game, they just don't want to release something that will cause insurmountable amounts of lag... (haha) So it's taking them a while.
Only thing I know that works for people is Fraps. But man is that a hassle. :/

You can get spectate and replay data from op.gg I believe

unless I'm an idiot and am reading that wrong.

Op.GG does give replays sometimes but not always. I'm not sure what factors in when they are available for what games...

In post 30834, lil g wrote:Straight up dude, these builds are awful and you aren't carrying shit.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/oce/862635#ranked-stats

You're feeding hard in bronze, on oceania. Just say "I don't want to improve", you could have saved me ten minutes of constructive posting that fell on deaf ears.

Next!

Yes, that was too much effort put into wazza, lilg This is what he does, preach some insane idea. There's no reason to do it, other than that it's his idea. It's for his ego only, he came up with something entirely new!!!

We've gone through this before, the fact that it was idea, meant that he felt he couldn't let it go. Didn't matter that his arguments got sillier and sillier, his pride was somehow at stake.

In post 30829, Glork wrote:Yeah the last time I played top (I main support/jungle), I went like 1/4 in lane but kept pushing nonstop and drawing jungler aggro. 25 mins in, I had the top middle turret down and the rest of my team was like 15/5 because I was consistently occupying their top laner and jungler. The feeder carry is real.

This pretty much. Went 1-4 in lane as Mundo yesterday, only to come back to 8-3 in the midgame.

I also found out there that Poppy shits on Mundo early game just as much as most people shit on Mundo early.

Poppy shouldn't be able to shit on anybody early game.

Mana pool too small can't do anything but all in.

He flash Q/Ignites on pre 6 Mundo.

I can tell you it hurts

I wanna start playing Poppy again but as most people I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA HOW TO BUILD HER
First item was always Hydra when I played her and Gunblade was somewhere there too

pretend you are jax, though hydra works in the lifesteal spot.

The AD Jax or the hybrid Jax
;-;

Normally I build Jax as Botrk, Triforce, Zephyr, Randuin's and some other things
But I've seen some Jax with Gunblade as their first item and they also build Botrk

Poppy builds Trinity/BotrK then defensive items unless you want to play the assassin with your ult. Then you just ult the support then take out everyone until the ult runs out.

OH GOD YES
But which item path is better? As in which one will make you more useful to your team?

Trinity/BotrK/Randuins/Mercs seem pretty much core on her if you wanna teamfight, which is kinda what Poppy wants.

But if you wanna splitpush you might prefer Hydra of BotrK